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[Turambar]

I've just noted two more bugs from v180a:
- throwing daggers +1 are not flagged as 'droppable', this means they stick in your inventary and you can't use them.
- Defensive rotation (blades) doesn't work at all: no blur, no ac bonus, no movement penalty... I haven't understood the problem, yet

From change-logs, BP was the only mod which worked with throwing daggers; I can't be so sure for the rotation.
Could you please check it and fix it, if you understand where's the issue?

Attached Files

•  SPCL522.SPL   5.66K   198 downloads
•  chlog.rar   1.04K   163 downloads

Edited by Turambar, 03 October 2010 - 11:24 PM.

[Miloch]

I don't see where or how BP could affect spcl522.spl, though I may be missing something.

Where did you get the throwing daggers +1? If they're not droppable, there shouldn't be a way you could've acquired them.

[Turambar]

I don't see where or how BP could affect spcl522.spl, though I may be missing something.

I've only installed the main component, and the change-log reports that, but I'll have a look to the version I've installed.
It could be hidden in a generic COPY SPL folder override, so that it's not detected by searching in the code?
edit: there's no spcl522 in the BP folder; it could be changed in a copy_existing_regexp? I've found one which deals with spells (line 5810, innate level fix).
Anyway, I'll look at what the fixpack and the p&p fiends do, as well; I'll see if those two backups work

edit: I've noticed that not even copying the vanilla spell into the override folder solves the problem. The spell is cast regularly, but has absolutely no effect

Ok, I've finally found the problem: the ring of free action (RING09) gave me immunity from my own spell.
I'll have a look at that, then; I'm sorry for my (not first) wrong accusation against BP (which is really great, in reality).

So, the title becomes "one BP bug", but this one is sure...

Where did you get the throwing daggers +1? If they're not droppable, there shouldn't be a way you could've acquired them.

they were sold somewhere in athkatla (waukeen or slums). either a merchant in waukeen's promenade, or the copper coronet, or Gaelan's son(?) on his house's first floor.
I bought them regularly, and they occupied a certain slot, but I couldn't move them anywere (so, I could not either use them).
Moreover, what does the flag 'displayable' mean? most items have it, but those daggers didn't either

Edited by Turambar, 04 October 2010 - 05:02 AM.

[Miloch]

edit: there's no spcl522 in the BP folder; it could be changed in a copy_existing_regexp? I've found one which deals with spells (line 5810, innate level fix).

It's not being overwritten or explicitly patched, and that's the only regexp that I can see that deals with spells. And it just sets any innates to level 1 if they aren't already. This one is already a level 1 innate, so the BUT_ONLY should mean it doesn't get changed. So it's a mystery to me why it's showing up under BP in the change-log.

they were sold somewhere in athkatla. either a merchant in waukeen's promenade, or the copper coronet, or Gaelan's son(?) on his house's first floor

I see... they are being explicitly added to stores, so both dagg25 and dagg26 need their flags fixed. Not just "movable" but "displayable in shop" and "magical" also.

[Miloch]

I don't think those flags were even discovered when I originally added those daggers, back in late 2002.

I'm sure "movable" was, or no one would be able to drop anything . Without "magical" they can't kill any creatures immune to normal weapons either (plenty of these in BG2). But the unusual thing is why it's taken so long for someone to notice and/or report it, unless you just recently started adding them to stores. Oh well, easy to fix anyway. Not sure that spell issue is even BP though.

[Turambar]

I'm sure "movable" was, or no one would be able to drop anything . Without "magical" they can't kill any creatures immune to normal weapons either (plenty of these in BG2). But the unusual thing is why it's taken so long for someone to notice and/or report it, unless you just recently started adding them to stores. Oh well, easy to fix anyway. Not sure that spell issue is even BP though.

Probably, I'm the only person in the world to use throwing daggers .

Concerning the defensive spin, I edited the post just after you replied; it's not BP's fault, but the fixpack's fault: free action protected me from my own defensive spin!

[Hoppy]

I'm sure "movable" was, or no one would be able to drop anything . Without "magical" they can't kill any creatures immune to normal weapons either (plenty of these in BG2). But the unusual thing is why it's taken so long for someone to notice and/or report it, unless you just recently started adding them to stores. Oh well, easy to fix anyway. Not sure that spell issue is even BP though.

Probably, I'm the only person in the world to use throwing daggers .

Concerning the defensive spin, I edited the post just after you replied; it's not BP's fault, but the fixpack's fault: free action protected me from my own defensive spin!

Do the descriptions come out correct? I remember in previous versions that the daggers were unusable with a misplaced string but maybe they are just undroppable now? I have a fixed version of them in my local game but that won't help you with the descriptions I'm afraid.

[Miloch]

Do the descriptions come out correct? I remember in previous versions that the daggers were unusable with a misplaced string but maybe they are just undroppable now? I have a fixed version of them in my local game but that won't help you with the descriptions I'm afraid.

Strings are always install-dependent (because what's in your dialog.tlk won't be in someone else's) so you would need to SAY the correct names after COPYing them into the game. And yes, those strings from the tp2 appear to be accurate (@63-@66 in setup.tra).

"Displayable" should affect whether you can see something in a shop but obviously it doesn't if you were able to buy them. Maybe it only affects whether you can see something in a shop after you sell it (which you can't if they're not also "movable").

[Hoppy]

Do the descriptions come out correct? I remember in previous versions that the daggers were unusable with a misplaced string but maybe they are just undroppable now? I have a fixed version of them in my local game but that won't help you with the descriptions I'm afraid.

Strings are always install-dependent (because what's in your dialog.tlk won't be in someone else's) so you would need to SAY the correct names after COPYing them into the game. And yes, those strings from the tp2 appear to be accurate (@63-@66 in setup.tra).

"Displayable" should affect whether you can see something in a shop but obviously it doesn't if you were able to buy them. Maybe it only affects whether you can see something in a shop after you sell it (which you can't if they're not also "movable").

They used to be displayable but the description said Grazzt and something else. In BP177, I think some Ascension strings were getting written to them but I have yet to install BP180 and check. Now it sounds like the strings are getting written correctly but just need to edit some item flags?

[Miloch]

Now it sounds like the strings are getting written correctly but just need to edit some item flags?

Yeah. Also an equipping effect wasn't set to equipped (what sets the crossguard colour in the paperdoll display). Common bug carried over from the unmodded game probably. Anyway, here's fixed versions:
 dagg25.itm   362bytes   197 downloads
 dagg26.itm   362bytes   198 downloads

Note that the text won't be right if you just copy them into your override manually, so you need to drop them in the BPv180/ITM folder before you install, so they get the SAY strings assigned correctly. However, I did change it so they'll say "Throwing Dagger" at least, even if you do just drop them into your override.

[Turambar]

I've found a compatibility issue with the fixpack.

The fixpack fixes some trolls, which did not have the fainted version (and died without fire), and gives them an override script to switch between the two .cre s.
And here's BP code:

COPY_EXISTING ~KPTROL03.CRE~     ~override~
  WRITE_SHORT 0x24 ~88~ // CurrHP (was 70)
  WRITE_SHORT 0x26 ~88~ // MaxHP (was 70)
  WRITE_BYTE 0x234 ~8~ // HighestLevelPrimary (was 6)
  WRITE_BYTE 0x235 ~1~ // HighestLevelSecond (was 30)
  WRITE_BYTE 0x239 ~100~ // StrBon (was 0)
  WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~KPTROL03~ #8 // Override (was NONE)
  WRITE_ASCII 0x250 ~BPPRIE8A~ #8 // Class (was KPTROL03)
BUT_ONLY_IF_IT_CHANGES

Which overrites the override script.

The result is, that the troll will never faint nor die. I haven't seen if that happens with other trolls, but I think you should check this for next version

I believe that other trolls have the same problem, including TorGal.

Here's the code from the fixpack, which you should consider in order to prevent immortality issues:

// add monhp1 item to trolls to prevent death; assign script to force transformation to dead form at low HP
COPY_EXISTING ~drshnl01.cre~ ~override~
              ~eletro01.cre~ ~override~
              ~kptrol03.cre~ ~override~
              ~pptroll1.cre~ ~override~
              ~sutroll.cre~  ~override~
              ~torgal.cre~   ~override~
  ADD_CRE_ITEM ~monhp1~ #0 #0 #0 ~NONE~ ~AMULET~
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "kptrol03" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~kptrol23~
  END ELSE
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "drshnl01" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~drshnl11~
    WRITE_ASCII 0x258 ~drshnl01~ // restore Nith's attack script, pt 2: assign script
  END ELSE
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "eletro01" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~eletro03~
  END ELSE
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "pptroll1" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~pptroll2~
  END ELSE
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "sutroll" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~sutroll2~
  END ELSE
  PATCH_IF ("%SOURCE_RES%" STRING_COMPARE_CASE "torgal" = 0) BEGIN
    WRITE_ASCII 0x258 ~torgal2~ #8 // race script
  END

Edited by Turambar, 08 October 2010 - 05:54 AM.

[Miloch]

Actually, we can just write BPPRIE8A to its race script slot without moving kptrol03 and without touching the override script. Torgal would need to lose a script since he has 2 by default and the fixpack gives him another. Not sure if he needs all 3 that BP gives him. Same goes for Nilthiri (drshnl01) which gets 4 + 2 from the fixpack. Eletro01 doesn't look like it needs its script moved by BP. Pptroll1's scripts can be moved down a slot or two, same goes for sutroll. You might want to look at the ones that have too many scripts to see which one(s) can be dropped. Worst case scenario, we can merge 2 scripts into 1.