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[Wisp]

Aurora's "Fix area creature references" breaks the second troll killing servant scene in ar1302 (by the stairs). It does this by changing one actor name from kptrol02 to Troll and one name from kpserv02 to Servant. The ActionOverride in the servant's dialogue calls for kptrol02 and kpserv02 and apparently actor names can be used in addition to script names.

[Miloch]

apparently actor names can be used in addition to script names.

This is news to me. You're saying that dialogue can use references in area files?

Obviously, a workaround is not to install this component (either in Aurora or IA) - it's not required for anything and is primarily for modder convenience (or inconvenience, if it causes such issues ).

[Wisp]

apparently actor names can be used in addition to script names.

This is news to me. You're saying that dialogue can use references in area files?

The dialogue ActionOverrides kptrol02 to Attack kpserv02. The troll and the servant reference the same cre files as the troll and servant in the sleeping quarters by the secret entrance. The only thing that separates them is that the troll&servant by the stairs have unique actor names. If you (manually) change the actor names the servant initiates the usual dialogue but the troll does not attack him.
The conclusion would seem to be that the ActionOverride and Attack actions (and probably others) can make use of actor names as well.

Obviously, a workaround is not to install this component (either in Aurora or IA) - it's not required for anything and is primarily for modder convenience (or inconvenience, if it causes such issues ).

Ah, but this component is INSTALL_BY_DEFAULT'ed.

[Miloch]

Ah, but this component is INSTALL_BY_DEFAULT'ed.

Ah. Yeah. Well it can be skipped in a batch install, as it is in BWP. Though IA has pretty much the same component - the main reason for it was to fix all the animations we change. AFAIK *that* field in area files isn't used for anything but reference. ActionOverride() actually says it uses actor in the IESDP - I always thought it was just the scripting name (which I think it'd have to be for NPCs and such that aren't stored in the area files).

[Osteoborus]

Kind of related:

I can't even get to the Hold. On the map, it's black and it's like the area won't trigger.

(I do have Faren and the Edwin Romance running along w/ Aurora (just the shop). Aurora was the last one I installed. Before Aurora, I had no issue.)

Ah- oops. I should have just looked at the patch post first (mentally blocked out that "a" part in "5a". Weird). So if I install the patch, this Area issue for D. Hold ought to be a-okay?

Edited by Osteoborus, 24 February 2011 - 03:33 PM.

[Miloch]

Um, yeah. Not sure if that's related to whatever your issue was though.

(I guess I should pin the patch topic maybe...)