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[Lyrick]

Hello everyone.

I come from Czech Republic, that's the middle of the Europe. We have our own language here, Czech.

Until two days ago, I only knew BGTutu and EasyTutu and I was using old classic BGTutu for one reason - when I install it, it only transfers new/edited/fixed things into English, and others stays in Czech, meaning I still have most of my game in Czech, which is the goal I want to achieve. (I don't mind few English texts here and there). On the other hand, EasyTutu, transfers all my Czech into English, there is no single Czech word left after installation.

I can speak and understand English a bit, as you can see (I hope you can understand this:)), but to fully enjoy BG experience, I still prefer Czech.

So now my question: Does BGT works more like BGTutu or EasyTutu? I definitively like BGT so far (from what I read and hear around), but this is still important factor for me, and I couldn't find informations regarding this.

In case it would make my game complete English like EasyTutu does, maybe there is some workaround to have BGT use my Czech Dialog.tlk (or other files containing texts - Im not much into IE engine).

Why am I asking instead of trying it first, you may say. Well, two reasons:
- on my current internet connection, it would take about 1h30mins to download 13MB BGT. Not a joke, Im using 32kbps EDGE.
- I currently have BGTutu installed, so before I uninstall it and re-install both clean install, I wanted to be sure

Thank you for your help!

EDIT: Anyone planning or already working on translation of BGT to Czech? -> Někdo kdo plánuje nebo už pracuje na překladu BGT do Češtiny?

Edited by Lyrick, 20 February 2010 - 07:48 AM.

[Lyrick]

Oh right, so I will answer this myself

BGT DOES keep my my original Czech language, only with the exception of fixed/tweaked/added stuff, I believe.

So Im happy now, so far it seems great!

Originally I wanted to know before I go thru all the hassle with the re-installing and downloading, researching, but I was too impatient and done it already

But I still have a question - In case I translate some of BGT files (according to readme instructions) to Czech, what would be easiest way to actually apply them to my game? Do I have to re-install whole BG2/BGT to see changes?

Thank you

[Jarno Mikkola]

But I still have a question[/b] - In case I translate some of BGT files (according to readme instructions) to Czech, what would be easiest way to actually apply them to my game? Do I have to re-install whole BG2/BGT to see changes?

Well yes, you need to reinstall the (setup-)BGT(.exe), as you can uninstall the BGT from there as well if it's the last installed mod!

If you wish to make a proper form of translation, you for example open the <game folder>/BGT/Language/English and copy the files to <game folder>/BGT/Language/Czech and then open the .tra files with Notepad, and change the English texts into Czech, and then you just add this code to the proper place into the setup-bgt.tp2 with Notepad as well:

LANGUAGE ~Czech~
         ~Czech~
         ~BGT/Language/Czech/prompts.tra~
         ~BGT/Language/Czech/setup.tra~
         ~BGT/Language/Czech/dialog.tra~
         ~BGT/Language/Czech/journal.tra~
         ~BGT/Language/Czech/scripts.tra~

And I am sure someone will appreciate if you could then upload the files into a archive and attach it to a post.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 20 February 2010 - 03:36 PM.

[Lyrick]

Thank you for the info, it seems pretty easy.

And I actually have back-up of clean BGT (only G3 BG2 Fixpack applied before), so I may just work on translations while playing and testing it, that's great.

Now let's see if there are some kind and experienced Czech players to bring this into top quality I believe I can translate most of it, but have never played BG Saga before so no idea know where lots of dialogues actually appears in-game, which leads me to my another question:

Let's say there is string @201824 in a english dialog.tra file, and I want know who/where says this, so I want to start a game and get to him to see the original and full conversation, or test new changes. Is this possible? Maybe some sort of hacks / cheats? Any suggestions?

Thank you

[Lollorian]

Let's say there is string @201824 in a english dialog.tra file, and I want know who/where says this, so I want to start a game and get to him to see the original and full conversation, or test new changes. Is this possible? Maybe some sort of hacks / cheats? Any suggestions?

1) Get NearInfinity (point #11)
2) Search->Stringref...->Type the dialogue in "Find what:"->Find next
3) Hit "Find references..." at the top and choose just DLG (dialog) and search
4) Double-click results to open them and go to the Edit tab
5) Hit "Find... references to this file" at the bottom, choose CRE for creatures, ITM for items, SPL for spells, STO for stores, BCS for scripts, ARE for areas ... etc

[Lyrick]

Let's say there is string @201824 in a english dialog.tra file, and I want know who/where says this, so I want to start a game and get to him to see the original and full conversation, or test new changes. Is this possible? Maybe some sort of hacks / cheats? Any suggestions?

1) Get NearInfinity (point #11)
2) Search->Stringref...->Type the dialogue in "Find what:"->Find next
3) Hit "Find references..." at the top and choose just DLG (dialog) and search
4) Double-click results to open them and go to the Edit tab
5) Hit "Find... references to this file" at the bottom, choose CRE for creatures, ITM for items, SPL for spells, STO for stores, BCS for scripts, ARE for areas ... etc

Forgot to thank you for the info, got it running and we are already working on translation. See ya

[Lyrick]

OK well, translation going slow, but fine.

But I have a question about worldmap/language/worldmap.tra

Where are these strings inside actually used in-game? I currently have a English BGT Install with english worldmap.tra, but when I open worldmap, names of areas are in Czech, so wondering what does this file affects?

Thank you

[Ascension64]

Only the worldmap mod. That mod will also have to include Czech language to utilise the BGT worldmap.tra.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Only the worldmap mod.

The worldmap mod??? Ah, the (Bp-BGT-)Worldmap mod.

Silly, silly, silly, the Imp is silly.

[Lyrick]

Awww, that's 95MBs. That would take me day to download :/

Maybe anyone could pack and upload somewhere only english language files from latest worldmap mod, please?

Thank you

EDIT: We ran into a problem. I have installed first test version of Czech BGT translation, and while starting a game, speech prologue about character past and Gorion is missing first paragraph. I can only hear sound but text is gone. Any ideas?

Edited by Lyrick, 23 February 2010 - 04:16 AM.

[Ascension64]

Sorry, it is hard to know what is going wrong without knowing the technical details of what you translated and how you did it?
When you have a ready version, just post it and we'll have a look in time.

[Ascension64]

Thanks for this. Can you remind me which version of BGT-WeiDU the translation was based on? There might be a few changes/new strings which I'll chase up in time.
Also, who get's the credit for the translation?

[Ascension64]

Thanks. I will need some extra translations. To help with that, could you possibly register so I can PM you?

[PostTrauma]

Ok, go for it.

[Ascension64]

I Czech translation has already completed. We are in the final stages of releasing BGT 1.13.