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[Jarno Mikkola]

Does this mean it's ready for DL, install, and hours/days/months of enjoyment?

Yeah!

[Anduin Shadow Mantle]

Leomar. Thankyou! Thankyou! Thankyou! Probably overkill but I have done a complete re-install. Downloading now. I am having a go at the tacitus after many an hour playing the recommended... Looking forward to putting the smackdown on a few kobolds... illithids... dragons... vampires... gnolls... not in any particular order!

[Lollorian]

Would it be wise for me to wait until the fixpack is complete? I mean will I run into some real gamebreakers without it being complete?

Which fixpack are you referring to??

The BWP Fixpack is at 8.3 and is the latest one (barring the few minor fixes found in the last 2 days )
The G3 BG2Fixpack is at v9 and the v10 is being worked on ... but you can install it with no gamebreakers
The BG1Fixpack ... is included in BGT (why am I saying this?? )

[Lollorian]

Unfortunately, the BWP can't be upgraded by running the installer again You'll have to start fresh (clean BGII-ToB+BGI-TotSC, apply patches etc) and run the BWSetup

[Leomar]

Would you mind putting a link to this page to the first post.

Sure and done.

And now, some nitpicking The cleanup.bat doesn't clean these mods:

Spoiler

HardTimes
IAAurFix
Mystigan
VampireTales

and it will also skip 3 folders with spaces in their names (Mod backups, NSC Portaits, BWL Contest)

Thanks for looking into it. I'll let it Leonardo know.


Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 12 February 2010 - 10:03 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Unfortunately, the BWP can't be upgraded by running the installer again You'll have to start fresh (clean BGII-ToB+BGI-TotSC, apply patches etc) and run the BWSetup

Erhm, you actually can. See, you just start the 'BiG World Setup.vbs' again. Yes, it will result in uninstallation of the whole BWSv8.2, by using the backup made in the beginning and deletation(removal) of lot of files, but as you have said it's faster than uninstallation of the whole game and reinstallation. Or did I miss something?

[Leomar]

And should you be interested to know, the 32bit Windows7 should work the same way the Vista does, ...

There is an obvious mistake in the English BiG World .pdf file, ...

The [I]install markers might also be a bit better in the guide, as they are all marked according to the Tactical/eXpert install...

Yeah, I understand that it's hard to cope with all the changes, but I am just pointing what could be improved, not criticizing anyone, I have no idea what this all can take out of you... so take it as such.

Thanks for the informations and the wrong lines in the guide. I'll let it Leonardo know, so he can correct it. Thanks, too, for your suggestion and yes, it will be hard to cope with all the changes. We'll see what we can do.

Greetings Leomar

[shinino]

After numerous FAILED attempts to install BWP, I'm going to wipe BG1 + BG2 completely tomorrow nad start over. Maybe I'm just trying with too many mods.

[Leomar]

If I understand the comments in the BWP fixes text file, several tactics components now won't install if the BP179e TP2 is detected? What about players, like me, who only install BP's version of Ascension (not AI, or other encounters). Does installing BP's Ascension result in some sort of incompatibility that should keep me from installing several of tactic's components?

You're right. The Install.bat doesn't distinguish between BP and BP-Ascension only. It is always BP. But Leonardo introduced the AI-selection with the new BWP release, so we can handle this in the future. Thanks.

Also, there is no mention of 1PP's extended palettes in the BWP install manual- is it safe to place it directly after thieves galore?

I think the "1PP's extended palettes" is a tool for modders, I'm wrong?

Greetings Leomar

[Lollorian]

Unfortunately, the BWP can't be upgraded by running the installer again You'll have to start fresh (clean BGII-ToB+BGI-TotSC, apply patches etc) and run the BWSetup

Erhm, you actually can. See, you just start the 'BiG World Setup.vbs' again. Yes, it will result in uninstallation of the whole BWSv8.2, by using the backup made in the beginning and deletation(removal) of lot of files, but as you have said it's faster than uninstallation of the whole game and reinstallation. Or did I miss something?

Ah, yes But I've heard that leftover backup folders (from the old 8.2 install) could fubar your new game I'm probably wrong though ... as always

And I dunno about the .bif's present in the data folder as well Would gen_biff overwrite them?? It'd be cool if the BWS could clean up the data folder (make a list of .bif's when making the backup, then delete all .bif's that aren't in the list when restoring the backup )

About reinstallin, the only thing I'll say is ... when you have a clean BGII-ToB patched to 24698, make a zip/rar/7z (preferably .rar) of your BGII-SoA folder. So, if you know the game's ruined, you could just delete the BGII-SoA and extract the archive. Good as new (no modding the registry either, takes just 10 mins for me )

After numerous FAILED attempts to install BWP, I'm going to wipe BG1 + BG2 completely tomorrow nad start over. Maybe I'm just trying with too many mods.

Wat exactly FAILED in your install?? (oh, and mention your OS btw )

Edited by Lollorian, 12 February 2010 - 11:35 PM.

[dabus]

@Lol: Have you really looked in the code or in a log-file to see what the BWS is doing before posting suggestions? Like deleting new files from the data-folder?

Short overview:

>> Backup
Copy Override-folder
Copy BGMain.exe
Copy Chitin.key
Copy Dialog.tlk
Copy DialogF.tlk (if exists)
Take a list files in data-folder
Take a list files in main-folder

>> Restore
Remove those files and folders that have copies
Remove files not on list files in data-folder
Remove files not on list files in main-folder
Copy Override-folder
Copy BGMain.exe
Copy Chitin.key
Copy Dialog.tlk
Copy DialogF.tlk (if exists)

Leomar noted a few weeks ago that there are some folders that we did not take into account when we created this functions some time ago, like characters, portraits, sounds, music and scripts. Those folders may have new files inside; but at least I think those should not break an installation.

If you think that the backup-method is not working or is wrong after all, tell me. I just created it in the way it was written down in the PDF some time ago.

[Lollorian]

@dabus: My bad ... yeah, I didn't look at its code (quietly slinks away ...)

... but first, allow me to wish White Agnus a speedy recovery

[dabus]

Like I wrote in the German forums: You can do as you wish.
I don't know when WA will be ready to do some fixing again or if he ever feel like/will be doing so. We have no replacement for him in our big hat were we push and pull the BWP-bunnies from. So a full BWP-member that fixes bugs like he could is not present.

So it's up to you to decide to go and start or wait.

[Dstone]

Just wanted to say thanks for the new version, i'm sure there are loads of people like me that don't post much but are eagerly anticipating each release! Doing my biggest megamod yet at the moment. Waiting for biffing I hope Baldurs Gate modding continues for a very long time to come (after all there has been no better games as of yet!)

[shinino]

After numerous FAILED attempts to install BWP, I'm going to wipe BG1 + BG2 completely tomorrow nad start over. Maybe I'm just trying with too many mods.

Wat exactly FAILED in your install?? (oh, and mention your OS btw )

Windows 7 64 bit.

It varies. Sometimes it hangs during the update process (finding download links). Sometimes it shows incorrect descriptions of mods as I'm selecting them. Soemtimes it won't download some of the files. I'm going to just start new.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Windows 7 64 bit.

Just so you know:

2. Disabling your User Account Control, in Vista and W7.
Now, Windows Vista and Windows 7 have these annoying new features called User Account Control, which even with Admin permissions stop everything mod related, as it prevent programs from altering other programs, at least without your permission, which in turn says that you have to re-enter the program code after the permission is given to the said program which doesn't suit with BiG Worlds programs cause the user didn't code program, nor typed the .exe's need special features to actually do things they do. You disable this feature by going this path in;
Vista: Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Accounts -> Turn User Account Control on or off -> Uncheck the box next to 'Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer', and push OK, and then restarting the computer, in annoyance...
W7: Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Accounts -> Change Your User Account Control settings... set to the bottom most option and done, and then restarting the computer, in annoyance...

2.1 Disabling the Program Compatibility Assistant on Windows 7.
To increase this annoyance, the clever idiots at the MacroHard have invented this assistant that always asks: 'Did this x program install successfully?' on 32bit system, and in 64bit system it can and will stop you from overwriting useful files, like the BGMain.exe when you upgrade the SoA to ToB.
To remove it push the Start -> type to the console: gpedit.msc and start it, then User Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Application Compatibility
Double click the option "Turn off Program Compatibility Assistant", and inside its configuration mark the "Enabled" -> Apply -> OK. Restart the computer.

2.2 Why disable the UAC, and the PCA?
Well, cause we need to, and because we can enable it after the BWS(BiG World Setup.vbs) and BWI(BiG World Install.bat) have run their procedures to completion. Or you go through the horror of making manually all the installation.

Also there some place where it tells you to not install the game to the Program Files sub-folders, this is because the OSystem mirrors the files from one place to another, so do not make the mistake to install the game into the default "Program Files (x84)" folder, or you'll be banging your head to the wall...