322 replies to this topic

[Miloch]

Doesn't this:

Well I'm not really fluent BWS-DOS-batch language or whatever, but it should be that first example rather than installing each component separately. It would seem to be the equivalent of installing the main component, hitting [Q]uit, then installing subsequent components. You can't do that - you have to install all the components you want in the same batch session, otherwise the variable values will get lost. Maybe there is something arcane we can do with ALWAYS but I think not in the case of ADD_PROJECTILE. (Possibly I *could* do something arcane with reading the correct project.ids values with REPLACE_EVALUATE or the like, but I'm a bit too lazy to do that when it can be resolved by installing correctly as per the readme .)

[Tonton Fred]

It should indeed... Maybe this particular install was done with the Beta GUI ? I've done so many installs over the past few days that I can't be sure. Anyway, I'm firing up another install now, I'll see you in a few hours to see if I can reproduce the problem

[Mike1072]

@Miloch

Used this in SR:

OUTER_SET dvstench = IDS_OF_SYMBOL (~projectl~ ~dvstench~) + 1
ACTION_IF (dvstench < 1) BEGIN
 ADD_PROJECTILE ~spell_rev\projectles\dvstench.pro~
END

Edited by Mike1072, 17 March 2010 - 09:02 PM.

[Lollorian]

Does it normally take around 20 hours for other people doing a tactics install?

The latest SCS(I/II) updates seem to take much longer to install (haven't tried it myself yet though ... but I reckon it's something to do with the millions of mages being added by other mods )

About the ToBEx, I've never tried it with refinements (but going by these posts, you'd think it was best that refinements fubared )

Also the kits mentioned cowslayer etc. was just a joke...

EDIT: Btw, is the install still going on or something?? You haven't posted a WeiDU.log (and looks like your compressed BiG World Debug.txt would help too ... I repeat, please compress it ... can't you login?? )

Edited by Lollorian, 17 March 2010 - 09:22 PM.

[maximus2001]

Does it normally take around 20 hours for other people doing a tactics install?

The latest SCS(I/II) updates seem to take much longer to install (haven't tried it myself yet though ... but I reckon it's something to do with the millions of mages being added by other mods )

About the ToBEx, I've never tried it with refinements (but going by these posts, you'd think it was best that refinements fubared )

Also the kits mentioned cowslayer etc. was just a joke...

EDIT: Btw, is the install still going on or something?? You haven't posted a WeiDU.log (and looks like your compressed BiG World Debug.txt would help too ... I repeat, please compress it ... can't you login?? )

I was about to start it tonight but got a TDD update from hoppy. Will try to install it too.

weidu log  WeiDU.log   54.14K   185 downloads

debug  BiG World Debug.rar   311.5K   221 downloads

and my modified install.bat  BiG World Install.rar   38.2K   141 downloads

The weidu and debug are from the second install.

The install.bat is what I'd like to use this time.

[Hoppy]

I was about to start it tonight but got a TDD update from hoppy. Will try to install it too.

Let me know how it goes with the BWS and I hear it has some nice fixes some peeps did. TDD has an Anti-Paladin kit that I like but I am not sure how it differs from Tactics if at all. With the ToBex you will also have the option of the missing kit Dark Knight as well for an evil Paladin which previously was unselectable or still is without the hack.

Yeah, if you are going with Refinements then I would just use TDD or RoT kits as you will have too many rows. I can get some to work after row 255 but it is hit and miss with no rhyme or reason.

[ancalimon]

Copying [Setup-Zalnoya.exe] -> [setup-allison.exe]: false
[Setup-Zalnoya.exe] WeiDU version 21300
Auto-Updating on behalf of [Setup-allison.exe]
Copying [Setup-Zalnoya.exe] -> [Setup-allison.exe]:
Auto-Updating on behalf of [Setup-allison.exe] (done)
[Setup-allison.exe] WeiDU version 21000
{setup-1pp.exe} Queried (pid = 328)[WeiDU-Backup] WeiDU version 21300
[./CHITIN.KEY] 332 BIFFs, 69924 resources
[./dialog.tlk] 250951 string entries
[WeiDU-Backup] Using scripting style "BG2"


I got this error again when making a standard installation, although I edited the Big World Fixpack.bat as suggested. It turns out Setup-Allison.exe is still running on the background although I closed its dos windows during the manual extraction and a new Weidu.exe cannot be overwritten. Installation was frozen, I tried ctrl-c and it asked whether to break it I said no and it started continuing but giving me the
Copying [Setup-Zalnoya.exe] -> [setup-allison.exe]: false
a couple times. I tried deleting the file setup-allison.exe a couple of times and and succeeded and quickly copied and renamed another Weidu.exe which was the latest version. Installation is finished now.

Edited by ancalimon, 18 March 2010 - 08:20 AM.

[Tonton Fred]

Well I'm not really fluent BWS-DOS-batch language or whatever, but it should be that first example rather than installing each component separately.

Yep, installing Hammers failed again on an install with Beta BWS, so I guess it is doing things differently than the current BAT in this case, I'll notify dabus on the beta thread.

[dabus]

That is stupid. Sorry, have no other words. I do not want to offend anyone. It's just breaking the whole logic I set up for the beta.
Look if something is not installed > look if it has unsolved dependencies > install > look if is ok.
I mean, it's exactly the opposite way you wanted it to be than with InfinityAnimations and others.
And I'd really not feel like adding any "block-methods" for a mere mod if it's just for some thrown hammers.

So I'd end up running the setup in blindfold "cmd-mode" like the batch does it now and skip the test during runtime and hope the tests after the selection, downloads and extractions are good enough.

Edited by dabus, 18 March 2010 - 01:49 PM.

[maximus2001]

Still no joy. I tried the install.bat from above post (minus the #1 component for Rot kits). Left it on overnight, and it was still on creature offset checker 8 hrs later. Tried again today same thing. Its freezing up at that spot.

Maybe its looking for stuff that is fixed already and gets stuck?

Also should I delete any of the files like debugs before I try again?


debug-
 BiG World Debug.txt   31.97K   243 downloads

Thanks

[Jarno Mikkola]

debug-

...
.\BiG World Fixpack\_ids\TRIGGER.IDS
23 file(s) copied.

Leonardo's BiG World Fixpack v8.1
---------------------------------
processing fixes for "planarspheremod"
renaming files ...

Is that just un-up-to-date version mark(by the BW team), or are you really trying to use an old and out of date update that might be the cause the whole problem...

[Lollorian]

Left it on overnight, and it was still on creature offset checker 8 hrs later.

That must royally suck I did get a slowdown with the offset checker once, but I found it out within an hour and turned off my antivir Dunno if that's the problem here though ...

PS: It's always better to start new (delete all the mod folders) before restarting the installer (repeated patches can sometimes lead to dupe blocks and stuff = script/stutter problems )

Always keep a vanilla BGII-SoA folder back-upped (for easy-copy-paste-action!!!)

Edited by Lollorian, 18 March 2010 - 10:32 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Always keep a vanilla BGII-SoA folder back-upped (for easy-copy-paste-action!!!)

Didn't you just recently say to use a .rar backup was the best(answer #3.3...), as it extracts faster than the computer can copy-past...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 18 March 2010 - 10:46 PM.

[Lollorian]

I know Copy-paste is just easier to type than all that stuff (ofcourse I could've also linked to that thread )

... oh wait ... I have it in my sig too

- Lazy lol

[maximus2001]

debug-

...
.\BiG World Fixpack\_ids\TRIGGER.IDS
23 file(s) copied.

Leonardo's BiG World Fixpack v8.1
---------------------------------
processing fixes for "planarspheremod"
renaming files ...

Is that just un-up-to-date version mark(by the BW team), or are you really trying to use an old and out of date update that might be the cause the whole problem...

Nope, I didn't touch anything Jarno. Perhaps its the BW team...

By the way your guide (from the link) is very good, clear and easily understood. I took your advice and Lol's to run BW setup again and start from beginning.

Also the guide says not to install grandmastery fix from mix mod and baldurdash because of conflicts with TDD. Is there a fix to use that is compatible? I have skipped a bunch of mods like Spell Revisions, Item Revisions, Full Plate, Mix Mod, etc. but this is one component I'd like.

[Hoppy]

debug-

...
.\BiG World Fixpack\_ids\TRIGGER.IDS
23 file(s) copied.

Leonardo's BiG World Fixpack v8.1
---------------------------------
processing fixes for "planarspheremod"
renaming files ...

Is that just un-up-to-date version mark(by the BW team), or are you really trying to use an old and out of date update that might be the cause the whole problem...

Nope, I didn't touch anything Jarno. Perhaps its the BW team...

By the way your guide (from the link) is very good, clear and easily understood. I took your advice and Lol's to run BW setup again and start from beginning.

Also the guide says not to install grandmastery fix from mix mod and baldurdash because of conflicts with TDD. Is there a fix to use that is compatible? I have skipped a bunch of mods like Spell Revisions, Item Revisions, Full Plate, Mix Mod, etc. but this is one component I'd like.

Those grandmastery fixes won't work for level 50 ruleset. What is wrong with Bg2Tweak components?

[maximus2001]

The pdf guide said do not install BG2 tweak version (not compatable with tdd rule 50), but that the mixmod (don't have it) does it better (again it says not compatable with tdd rule 50).

Edited by maximus2001, 19 March 2010 - 08:11 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

The pdf guide said do not install BG2 tweak version (not compatable with tdd rule 50), but that the mixmod (don't have it) does it better (again it says not compatable with tdd rule 50).

Well, the compatibility issue comes from the way the installation is done, as one of the overwrites which in this case is good, as few of them patch the file... what's wrong with the patching is that it can assume the file is in the original state and it's not if it's overwritten already. (as the patching 'can only' add certain amount of info if it assumes fact like the line length, and if that line is longer, the patching can be done... so the way they are installed is actually important)
The way it could be coded is to cross patch/overwrite the files so the files become what they should(and it'ill overwrite if must), but as there are at least 5 different 50 level rule systems...

[AndrewB]

correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you're saying one of these is compatible (or could be made to be compatible) with TDD?