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[new(Mike)]

i meet the same case,

i remove the staff of magi and i can find him

i don't know which mod cause it

Edited by new(Mike), 09 May 2010 - 11:20 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

'False_Dmitry_II', on 26 August 2010 - 03:00 AM, said:

'new(Mike)', on 10 May 2010 - 10:02 AM, said:

... remove the staff of magi and I can find him

How the crap do you do that?!?

Well, you can by editing the character in a editor like the DLTCEP or the NearInfinity(but you need to be able to use that), and load a savegame where you have not seen the character.

[Jarno Mikkola]

'False_Dmitry_II', on 27 August 2010 - 04:56 AM, said:

By, 'when I have not seen the character' do you mean where I have never loaded that map at all?
Or just not being on that particular map at the time?

That you have never been in the area in the savegame you load. As the creatures are loaded and saved into the savegame when the area is first visited.

[Turambar]

'False_Dmitry_II', on 08 November 2010 - 09:19 PM, said:

so the person who helped me out originally is more likely to see what happened here is a cross post:

I found it.

For those who find this and have absolutely no clue this is what you do:

Get NearInfinity. Put the program in the root of your install (it's just quicker to do so, I didn't though because I figured it would look for it)

Then run it, on the left side find the CRE tree on the left. Expand it and locate BHBBOB.CRE

Then instead of view on the top of the right side click edit. Otherwise you'll just be staring at the fact that he has one like I was.

Scroll down till you find item11 (or however it calls it) then there's a button that lets you look up others, I simply picked another staff told it to update and saved it. Then loaded my game from before and away I go.

Hope this helps.

Anyway, I've included this fix in my fixpack (see signature)

Edited by Turambar, 08 November 2010 - 01:17 PM.

[Lollorian]

For the future, keep Shadowkeeper It's the standard BGII cheat tool - could've been used to change/delete the staff easily

[Turambar]

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@Turambar
While you're fixing things, make it so you can't lock yourself out of that one castle. If you go to the very top you can raise the drawbridge, then when you go to the basement there is a one way exit. If you only have one save (I did this but had one from earlier) you could leave and now that the drawbridge is up there is no way to get back into the castle, so if you aren't done you're screwed.

It looks quite a serious issue; though, as I have never played SoBH, I can only guess what you're talking about.
Anyway, if you tell me the area number, I think I could make so, that if the drawbridge is closed the door 'tells you' that you won't be able to re-enter if you pass it now. I could disable the passage, or just add a dialog 'are you really sure you want to never come back in'?
Do you think this could be a suitable solution?

[Turambar]

'False_Dmitry_II', on 10 November 2010 - 12:24 AM, said:

Well, if you tell me how to see the area number sure I'll do that when I'm on it again.

Just point any point of the area with your mouse and press 'X' on your keybord; you'll see the current area and the coordinates of the mouse

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I think it would be best to simply disable the control that allows the drawbridge to be raised. Other than locking yourself out it literally serves no function. Maybe if you can't get rid of it entirely make it so that it's just an information box like signs are. Then it can say something like "This winch is the control for the bridge. You don't want to raise it because you don't know of another exit" or something like that.

The actual one-way exit is pretty useful since this castle has an area underneath it, and if you're done with everything above (or even if you're not) it's a much faster way to get out, and you wouldn't want to make it two-way since it would ruin the mystery of whats going on there.

Ok. If you tell me that the drawbridge is not needed, I don't think it will be so difficult to "break" it.

[Lollorian]

Err ... is the drawbridge thing something that really needs to be "fixed"?

Saying "you probably shouldn't raise the bridge" and "you can't raise the bridge" are entirely different things. But this is an optional tweak so just putting out my thoughts

[Turambar]

I was thinking about 'You have no reason to raise the bridge', or just 'This device raises the drawbridge', with a question mark pointer: there are many things you can't interact with in the game...

[Lollorian]

I didn't mean what the in-game text should say I meant how it would seem to the player who's playing that part of the game The switch is perfectly ignoreable and doesn't make any difference whether it's interactable or not ...

It's like removing imba overpowered itamz from the game to make it more-balanced™ when you could easily ignore the items or drop them where you found them (or sell them off ... but that would net imba cash )

Edited by Lollorian, 01 December 2010 - 07:17 AM.

[Lollorian]

Yea I guess I was babbling But anyhoo, I'll admit I stand corrected and that specific scenario is entirely possible (might've even happened to me now that I think of it ... I usually just Ctrl-J and forget it ) So it should be fixed! (completely forgot about the one-way hidden door )

Edited by Lollorian, 03 December 2010 - 05:35 AM.