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20. Exploit: During "Urn of the Sacred Ashes", after you find the Urn, zoning from the Gauntlet to Mountaintop gives you 750xp. Go back into the gauntlet and exit again, another 750xp. Repeat ad nauseum and hit the level cap quite quickly. Fixed. (Fix tested)

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Edited by Qwinn, 07 April 2010 - 01:26 AM.

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21. Bel's Cache will no longer get reactivated as an openable empty container every time you re-enter the Circle Tower second level.

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22. In the Orzammar quest "Thief in the House of Learning", you can sell the tome to a fence for 2.3 gold and 150 XP or return it to the Shaperate for nothing at all. Comments in the Shaperate questgiver's dialogue state that returning it should give a "moderate" xp reward, as compared to a "minor" xp reward for selling it. Returning the tome now gives a 250 xp reward. (Fix tested)

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23. Completing "The Golem Registry", the Shaper tells you "Warden, I hope this artifact from our archives will suffice as a reward.", but if you have recruited Shale, you get nothing. The following comments exist in the script: "// If Shale is Recruited, give player a special golem crystal; otherwise he gets a generic magical item as a reward". The "otherwise" actually works, without Shale recruited you get a Master Hale rune. No golem crystal is given out, however. Going with Small Flawless Spirit Crystal.

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Edited by Qwinn, 07 April 2010 - 10:50 AM.

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EDIT: Never mind for now.

Edited by Qwinn, 07 April 2010 - 11:27 AM.

[Zander]

Yah, it annoyed me too. And yah, I'll take care of it. Just gotta remember where that actually changes, hehe, took me a while to find the script last time.

If you have Return to Ostagar installed, then you actually could just leave it as an open quest with the text from the 1st picture you posted. Everything there's still valid. If you *don't* have it installed, then I figure close it and give it the vague "You fed the prisoner" entry, the one you get if you feed him without asking him for anything in return. It doesn't mention the key, but eh, who cares, at least it's accurate.

Is that what you'd like to see? Or should I try to find some method that doesn't care what's installed? Note that I still don't know *how* to do conditional logic based on what DLC's are in.

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Just leaving the quest open would be fine for me, as I always have RtO installed. For those who don't, though I suppose it would be like any other quest you didn't complete, but if you don't have RtO, there is no reason NOT to use the key....

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24. "Paragon of her Kind": If you were publicly working for Harrowmont but planted the papers in Jarvia's chest for Bhelen, when you reported to Harrowmont that you had killed Jarvia, the A Lord's Favor: The Second Task journal entry would remain stuck open and you'd lose out on the rather hefty experience reward for dealing with her. (Fix tested)


For the curious: An issue I encountered is that completing the quest increases support for Harrowmont among the nobles. This is fine if you didn't plant the papers (and that's the only way you could complete the quest previously), but it seems quite inappropriate if you did. So I've made that support increase conditional on not having planted the papers (reasoning: Harrowmont gets credit for killing Jarvia but is accused of propping her up in the first place, for no net change). So, the effect of your actions on who the nobles are supporting is unchanged from the unmodded game.

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Edited by Qwinn, 08 April 2010 - 01:47 AM.

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25. "Paragon of her Kind": If you initially talk to Dulin and/or Vartag but end the conversations before accepting either of their first quests, then talk to the Steward and ask what you can do to help break the stalemate, you would get a permanent quest marker stuck over Dulin and/or Vartag (whichever you'd spoken to) for the rest of the game. (Fix tested)

Edited by Qwinn, 08 April 2010 - 01:32 AM.

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26. "An Unlikely Scholar": Removed the quest marker over Jaran's head once the quest is completed. It was previously permanent once the quest was initiated. (Fix tested)

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27. "Asunder": Fixed exploit where, by placing all party members near the altar, pausing, and then having each one spam-click the altar, you could spawn the beast multiple times, receiving his reward as many as ten times over. You cannot get more than one beast now. (Fix tested)

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28. "A Mother's Hope": If Filda learns that Ruck is alive, the dialogue, graphics, quest journal and comments all indicate that she leaves immediately for the Deep Roads to look for him, but she'd actually stay where she was, still praying but facing the street instead of the stone. She'll actually leave now. (Fix tested)

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Edited by Qwinn, 08 April 2010 - 08:50 AM.

[Qwinn]

Here's some you've all been waiting for, I suspect:

29. "Of Noble Birth": This quest is only available for male noble dwarves, but *everyone* got a closed failed journal entry for it after the coronation. No longer. (Fix tested)

30. "Of Noble Birth": A number of dialogue errors fixed. In particular, it should be a lot less common to get "If X becomes king, he'll take care of you" reply options after the king has been crowned, and you will no longer get Mardy giving her mid-quest dialogue in the castle after the quest is completed. (Fix untested)

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31. "A Paragon of Her Kind" : If you sided with Bhelen before going into the deep roads (whether openly or as double agent) such that you had his version of the "A Paragon of Her Kind" quest open in your journal (Harrowmont has his own version, and you can have both if a double agent), and then you chose Harrowmont as king, the quest would not close properly and would remain permanently open in your journal telling you to go back to the assembly to crown a king. (Fix tested)

Edited by Qwinn, 09 April 2010 - 12:28 AM.

[Qwinn]

Updated, reordered and revised list:


A. General fixes:

1. The Stealing and Dog Fetching bugs introduced in patch 1.03 (where they could not generate random items) are fixed. (Fixes tested)

2. The following plot items will now actually be removed from inventory when they are given to someone or their associated quest completed: Scroll of Banastor ("The Scrolls of Banastor"), Corpse Gall ("Skin Deep"), Topsider's Hilt, Pommel and Blade ("An Admirable Topsider"), Grey Warden Documents (given to Riordan during or after "Rescue the Queen"), Worn Amulet ("Hearing Voices"), Feldspar Ring ("Have You Seen Me?"), Rigby's Last Will and Testament IF lockbox given to Jetta ("Last Will and Testament"), A Letter ("Friends of Red Jenny"), and Bundled Documents ("Defending the Collective"). In addition, accepting the Blackstone Irregulars quest "Notices of Death" now gives the PC 4 letters of condolences, not 5, as there were only 4 widows this would leave an extra letter in the PC's inventory at quest end. (Fixes tested)


B. Origin related fixes:

1. "Human Noble": At the beginning of the main hall battle, it was briefly possible to initiate dialogue with Ser Gilmore and prematurely trigger his post-combat dialogue. Doing so would make the exit never open, forcing a reload. Now, if you talk to him during that brief interval, he just shouts one of several combat barks instead. (Fix tested)

2. "Mage": During the Harrowing, if you have acquired your staff and you talk to Bear Mouse, he would prematurely shout, out of context, "And there is a spirit of rage". Then, when you actually got near the spirit of rage, he'd initiate a casual conversation, again quite out of context. (Fix tested)


C. Companion Quests and Dialogue

1. Infinite approval exploit in Sten's second camp dialogue fixed. Can no longer repeatedly ask "Why do the Qunari care about the Blight?" which led to a +4 approval option. (Fix tested)

2. "The Sword of the Beresaad": It was possible to go directly from the scavenger in Lake Calahad to Dwyn, skipping Faryn completely. (Fix tested)

3. If Lothering was destroyed and you never even talked to Sten, you were still getting a codex entry about his death that implied you had met him. (Fix untested)

4. "Oghren's Old Flame": Removed infinite loop approval exploit in conversation where Oghren gives his personal quest ("Oh, Maker, we don't have time for this." can only be picked once now.) (Fix tested)


D. Ostagar:

1. "The Hungry Prisoner": This quest will no longer close with an erroneous entry if you leave Ostagar having acquired the key by feeding the prisoner but without using it on the chest. The quest will remain open, just as it does if you got the key by killing the prisoner. The quest can still be completed during the Return to Ostagar DLC. (Fix tested, except for confirming whether opening chest will close open journal entry in RtO.)

2. Dwarves can now hear the tale of Luthias Dwarfson. They actually even have dialogue specific to them during the story. (Fix untested)


E. Lothering:

1. Ancient Elven Boots will now appear in the Lothering Chantry cabinet. This was only bugged in the PC version of the game. (Fix tested)

2. "Traps are a Girl's Best Friend": This quest will no longer reset to the beginning after completion. (Fix tested)

3. "The Qunari Prisoner": Removed exploit to get maximum Morrigan approval in Lothering by repeatedly failing to intimidate the grand cleric. (Fix untested, requires Coercion 0)

4. "Bandits on the Road": If you intimidated the bandits as a mage, and then "practiced your spells" (attacked), one of the bandits would run away in terror. If you then killed the rest off, the quest became uncompletable because that last bandit couldn't be killed. Fixed by removing that fleeing bandit from the bandit team before he runs away. (Fix tested)


F. Denerim:

1. "Honor Bound": Unimplemented XP reward for persuading Ser Landry that Wardens would never ally with Darkspawn restored. That this was intended is supported by a comment attached to that reply: "ACTION: The PC should get a good xp bonus for this because he's put doubt in a staunch opponent of the Grey Wardens. It should at least equal the XP for killing him in a duel." A line matching that description already existed in rewards.2da, so I just activated the reward that what was already there. (Fix tested)

2. "Crime Wave", subquest "The Lady's Maid": Completing this quest would put a permanent quest marker on Slim Couldry that overwrote all subsequent quest markers. The quest flag on Slim Couldry will now accurately inform the player when he has a new quest available. (Fix tested)

3. "Crime Wave", subquest "Steal Ser Nancine's Sword": As an exploit, you could get the sword from her in dialogue, and then use the Stealing skill to pickpocket a second copy off of her. Also, in various dialog paths, you could get Nancine to indicate she was giving you 5 silver or 2 gold, but you didn't actually receive any money in either case. Now you will. (Fix tested.)

4. "Crime Wave", subquest "Stealing the Teyrn's Crown": This quest has been *completely* reworked. Many of the options that were clearly intended as valid ways to bypass the guards did not actually work when you tried them (the guards would spot and attack you even if they were drunk/unconscious/etc.). They now work as they were intended to. This quest now has five entirely different fully functional methods of being solved. Also, similar to Ser Nancine, you can no longer get the crown via dialogue and then a second copy via stealing. (Fixes tested)

5. "Crime Wave", subquest "Steal Master Tilver's Key": Talking to the messenger boy during this quest would (possibly very prematurely) initiate the "Trial of Crows" quest line, even before ever meeting Zevran or talking to Ignacio. This caused all kinds of havoc with that quest chain. (Fix tested)

6. "Crime Wave", subquest "Tears of Andraste": The guards *are* coded to react to your poisoning the drinks table, but due to a scripting error it just wasn't firing properly. I made it fire and I also move them a little during that sequence so they don't fall through the walls quite so much. Now if you find it surprising that a sleeping draught can make someone bleed, hey, me too, but that's apparently as was intended, and the blood does fade away after a few seconds. (Fix tested)

7. "Crime Wave": When the entire quest chain was complete, Slim Couldry was supposed to exit the area but did not do so, and would talk about an already completed quest when clicked on. (Fix tested)


G. Circle Tower:

1. Bel's Cache will no longer get reactivated as an openable empty container every time you re-enter the Circle Tower second level. (Fix tested)


H. Redcliffe:

1. "Arl of Redcliffe": You could break the game by talking to Ser Perth at the very beginning of the fight with Bann Teagan (assuming you entered the castle with Ser Perth, of course). Doing so would repeat the dialogue you are only meant to have with him at the gate, before you actually enter the castle, with game breaking effects. Now he responds to dialogue attempts during that brief interval with one of his combat barks instead. (Fix tested)

2. "Arl of Redcliffe": If you allowed Isolde and/or Connor to die, their codex entries would say that they lived, and vice versa. (Fix tested)

3. "Arl of Redcliffe": Infinite XP exploit, where after completing the quest the vault door in Redcliffe Castle would be locked every time the area loaded and could be picked again and again for 50xp, fixed. (Fix tested)


I. Brecilian Forest:

1. "Lost to the Curse": Under the following conditions, you would get neither XP nor Athras' Pendant when telling Athras of his wife's fate: 1) He actually promised you the amulet when you took the quest, 2) You choose the specific reply "She died, Athras. But not before she sent her love.", and 3) neither Leilana nor Morrigan are present at the time. (Fix tested)

2. "Nature of the Beast": The Mad Hermit explicitly requires only one werewolf pelt from you, but if you have a stack you give him all of them. Fixed. (Fix tested)


J. Orzamaar / Deep Roads:

1. "Precious Metals": Tons of bugs in this quest fixed. A) Godwin will no longer vanish after talking to him once the Circle quest is completed, which unnecessarily forced you to leave the area and return to talk to him again. B) The reply option "Why do you need all that lyrium?" was nonsensically appearing the very first time you talked to him with Rogek's quest in your journal. It wasn't meant to appear until after you'd either sold the lyrium to Godwin or denied it to him. That could cause events to play well out of order. C) You could threaten Godwin that you would turn him in to Greagoir, but you couldn't actually do it. Now you can. (Fix tested)

2. "A Paragon of her Kind", subquests "Vartag Gavorn" and "Dulin Forender": If you initially talk to Dulin and/or Vartag but end the conversations before accepting either of their first quests, then talk to the Steward and ask what you can do to help break the stalemate, you would get permanent quest markers for these two quests stuck over Dulin and/or Vartag (whichever you'd spoken to) for the rest of the game. (Fix tested)

3. "A Paragon of her Kind", subquest "A Lord's Favor: The Second Task": If you were publicly working for Harrowmont but planted the papers in Jarvia's chest for Bhelen, when you reported to Harrowmont that you had killed Jarvia, a journal entry for this quest would remain stuck open and you'd lose out on the rather hefty experience reward for dealing with her. (Fix tested)

4. "A Paragon of Her Kind": If you sided with Bhelen before going into the deep roads (whether openly or as double agent) such that you had his version of the "A Paragon of Her Kind" quest open in your journal (Harrowmont has his own version, and you can have both if a double agent), and then you chose Harrowmont as king, the quest would remain open in your journal forever telling you to go back to the assembly to crown a king. (Fix tested)

5. "The Shaper's Life": This codex miniquest will now give the player one of the 3 previously unobtainable Shaperate's Blessing weapons, dependent on the player's class. (Fix tested)

6. "Thief in the House of Learning": You can sell the tome to a fence for 2.3 gold and 150 XP or return it to the Shaperate for nothing at all. Comments in the Shaperate questgiver's dialogue indicate that returning it should give a "moderate" xp reward, as compared to a "minor" xp reward for selling it. Returning the tome now gives a 250 xp reward. (Fix tested)

7. "The Golem Registry": The Shaper tells you "Warden, I hope this artifact from our archives will suffice as a reward.", but if you have recruited Shale, you get nothing. The following comments exist in the script: "// If Shale is Recruited, give player a special golem crystal; otherwise he gets a generic magical item as a reward." The "otherwise" actually works, without Shale recruited you get a Master Hale rune. No golem crystal is given out if you have Shale, however. Going with Small Flawless Spirit Crystal. (Fix tested)

8. "An Unlikely Scholar": Removed the quest marker over Janar's head once the quest is completed. It was previously permanent once the quest was initiated. (Fix tested)

9. "Asunder": Fixed exploit where, by placing all party members near the altar, pausing, and then having each one spam-click the altar, you could spawn the beast multiple times, receiving his reward as many as ten times over. You cannot get more than one beast now. (Fix tested)

10. "A Mother's Hope": If Filda learns that Ruck is alive, the dialogue, graphics, quest journal and comments all indicate that she leaves immediately for the Deep Roads to look for him, but she'd actually stay where she was, still praying but facing the street instead of the stone. She'll actually leave now. (Fix tested)

11. "A Mother's Hope": If you asked Ruck to trade after completing Filda's quest, it would put a permanent quest marker on Filda, but it would remain impossible to talk with her. (Fix tested)

12. The unique crossbow Nugbane can now be stolen from the Mines Commander in Orzammar. He has it in the vanilla game, and the "Stealable" flag is clearly checked, but it could not be stolen due to being equipped. As there is no other reasonable explanation for his having it in his inventory (his graphics displays his battleaxe, not the crossbow), it being equipped is almost certainly a bug. (Fix tested)

13. "Of Noble Birth": This quest is only available for male noble dwarves, but *everyone* got a closed failed journal entry for it after the coronation in "A Paragon of her Kind". No longer. (Fix tested)

14. "Of Noble Birth": A number of dialogue errors fixed. In particular, it should be a lot less common to get "If X becomes king, he'll take care of you" reply options after the king has been crowned, and you will no longer get Mardy giving her mid-quest dialogue in the castle after the quest is completed. (Fix untested)


K. Haven/Ruined Temple/Gauntlet (Urn of Sacred Ashes):

1. "Urn of the Sacred Ashes": After you find the Urn, zoning from the Gauntlet to Mountaintop gives you 750xp. Go back into the gauntlet and exit again, another 750xp. Repeat ad nauseum and hit the level cap quite quickly. Exploit fixed. (Fix tested)


L. Landsmeet/Alienage/Epilogue

1. City Elves only: Cyrion will no longer appear during the coronation if the player allowed Caladrius to kill or enslave him. (Fix untested)

2. "Rescue the Queen": You can get into a fight with Ser Cauthrien, "kill" her, and loot her sword. If you are then killed/captured by the rest of her group, you will meet her again just before the Landsmeet. That has not been changed: it's quite possible it was intended that she was revived in the same way your own party members revive after being "killed" if your party doesn't actually lose a battle. However, if you looted her sword during that first fight, she will now no longer have a second copy of that unique sword when you meet her again, she will instead have a normal red steel greatsword. (Fix tested)

3. Ser Cauthrien would show up in the epilogue *only* if you killed her just before the Landsmeet. Obviously an error. She will now only appear in the epilogue if you did *not* kill her just before the Landsmeet or during "Rescue the Queen" (meaning, you didn't wipe out her entire group).

4. In the conversation with Ser Cauthrien just before the Landsmeet, what was meant to be a high Persuade check was actually checking for high skill with Poison. (Fix tested)

5. "Something Wicked": Clicking twice on the same clue, or asking the beggar about "Bad Men" twice in one conversation, could screw up the quest journal updates. (Fix tested)

6. "Something Wicked": Telling Otto about the beggar wasn't registering as a "clue" if you told him about that one first. He'd then refer to your "both your clues" when you had to give him 3. (Fix tested)

Edited by Qwinn, 15 April 2010 - 03:30 AM.

[Kulyok]

I wanted to report these small issues:
- One, one of the "flimsy light traps" in Korcari Wilds(near the Emissary) cannot be disarmed. There are five traps, and only four of them can be disarmed properly.
- Two, in Dalsh Origin, when you visit Elven Ruins the second time, there are two sets of traps: four clustered together just past the locked door(20XP), and five clustered together in the other section of the ruins. Well, if you first disarm the four past the locked door, then go and disarm five others, and then return to the place with four traps, these four traps are laid again(you don't have to detect them, though, they are already detected), and you have to disarm them one more time(but get no experience for that). I guess it is a glitch.

- Three, at Dwarf Commoner origin, at the "choose Bhelen or Harrowmont" scene at the Assembly, everyone refers to my character as a surfacer. That surprised me, because usually during Orzammar they recognized my origin as casteless. I don't know if it's correct. Maybe it's a bug, too?


I wanted to ask one more thing(I don't know if anyone knows that, though):

- When I played Dwarf Commoner and chose Harrowmont as king, Rica says that she is no longer my sister. However, I know that Rica is supposed to be in the epilogue, Post-coronation. Will she still appear there and be nice to my character? (Has anyone played this? I deleted my save, because I couldn't connect with Dwarf Commoner. At All.)

- In City Elf origin, will Cyrion still be nice to his daughter at Post-coronation, if she took the bribe from Lord Vaughn(did the "evil route", and left other elven women to be raped or worse?)

[Kulyok]

By the way, patch 1.03 fixes "reusable stats" bug, when you could reset as many times as you like, but it doesn't fix "sell twice" bug: in PC, you can open a store, choose, say, Blood Dragon Armor, press two mouse buttons at once, drag it to the left part of the store screen, then let go of the right button, then of the left. You'll get double value for the item(and you can do it again, and again, and again...) It's probably been reported, but just in case.

[Qwinn]

Thanks for the report!

1. Yes, that trap in Korkari Wilds drives me bonkers when I take a rogue through there. Fixing that is going to take fiddling with the area file, probably, which I haven't acquired the skillset to do yet. I'll wait a bit and see if I find another reason to spend the several hours I'll probably need to figure area files out, and once I know how I'll definitely fix that stupid trap. For the record, there's also two traps around Jarvia in Dust Town that cannot even be detected (I've got enough skill for the toughest traps in game, I think it's a geometry/sight issue), and at least 2 others you seem to only be able to detect from one side (unfortunately, the far side). You only get 5xp for disarming them, too, so it's pretty damn likely *not* a lack-of-skill issue.

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- Three, at Dwarf Commoner origin, at the "choose Bhelen or Harrowmont" scene at the Assembly, everyone refers to my character as a surfacer. That surprised me, because usually during Orzammar they recognized my origin as casteless. I don't know if it's correct. Maybe it's a bug, too?

Could you be more specific? Is the word "surfacer" actually used? I do see one point where a Dwarf Commoner would get "The Grey Warden knows nothing of us!", which is bad but not quite as bad as "surfacer". Is that what you're referring to, and/or were there other cases of it?

THAT line does get skipped if the player is specifically a dwarf noble only (then again, there's dialogue lines specific to dwarf nobles, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything), but yeah, it would probably make more sense to just skip it for all dwarves. It's not *clearly* unintended though, so I'm iffy on changing it unless there's more examples to establish a pattern.

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By the way, patch 1.03 fixes "reusable stats" bug, when you could reset as many times as you like, but it doesn't fix "sell twice" bug: in PC, you can open a store, choose, say, Blood Dragon Armor, press two mouse buttons at once, drag it to the left part of the store screen, then let go of the right button, then of the left. You'll get double value for the item(and you can do it again, and again, and again...) It's probably been reported, but just in case.

Wouldn't even know where to start on this, unfortunately. Strikes me as an engine bug. Not something I can mess with in the toolset, I don't think.

4.

In City Elf origin, will Cyrion still be nice to his daughter at Post-coronation, if she took the bribe from Lord Vaughn(did the "evil route", and left other elven women to be raped or worse?)

From my memory of looking at Cyrion's coronation dialogue when I was working on him not showing up at all if he's killed, yes, he'll be nice. I don't think he has any non-nice coronation dialogue. I wouldn't call it a bug yet, though... is there any reason to believe he'd necessarily *know* you took Vaughn's bribe?

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Edited by Qwinn, 09 April 2010 - 02:44 AM.

[Qwinn]

Took a look at the Korkari Wilds area file. All 6 traps are identical except for their position and orientation, so it's what I figured it was, the thing's somehow technically under the world's geometry making it untargetable, so the fix will be to move it slightly. I'll see what I can do. Hell, first I gotta figure out which of the 6 traps it is based on the coordinates, will have to figure out how to get the console to tell me that when the console has no display.

- When I played Dwarf Commoner and chose Harrowmont as king, Rica says that she is no longer my sister. However, I know that Rica is supposed to be in the epilogue, Post-coronation. Will she still appear there and be nice to my character? (Has anyone played this? I deleted my save, because I couldn't connect with Dwarf Commoner. At All.)

Yes, she'll be nice, but the situation IS addressed. SPOILER:

Spoiler

"Sorry I got your husband killed." "Bah, it worked out just fine. My son will be the Aeducan heir, and I don't have a husband to boss me around. I should thank you.

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Just added fix E.3.: Lothering, fixed exploit to get maximum Morrigan approval in Lothering by repeatedly failing to intimidate the grand cleric.

Aaaaand J.11., Orzamaar quest: "A Mother's Hope": If you asked Ruck to trade after completing his mother's quest, it would put a permanent quest marker on Filda (assuming she's still around) but it would remain impossible to talk to her further. (Fix tested)


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Edited by Qwinn, 09 April 2010 - 03:37 AM.

[Qwinn]

Yay, another one.

E. Lothering:

4.: "Bandits on the Road": If you intimidated the bandits as a mage, and then "practiced your spells" (attacked), one of the bandits would run away in terror. If you then killed the rest off, the quest became uncompletable because that last bandit couldn't be killed. Fixed by removing that fleeing bandit from the bandit team before he runs away. (Fix tested)