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[Vandervecken]

Hi guys,
So I continue to play through, and I encounter bugs in Suldanesselar.
The first bug is that the Black Dragon is not present. Instead, there is a Lesser Demon Lord, but it has the Black Dragon's conversation options, and when I kill it, it has the goblet, and the Bladesinger Chain.

The second, is that when I kill Irenicus, some magic fires, and several of my companions turn on me (as in, they just go Red and attack).
Right now I have Minsc, Kitanya, Aerie, Kivan and Ninafer.
Minsc and Kitanya stay with me. Interestingly, both have items that permanently shield their minds.
I tried using the cleric spells Impervious Sanctity of Mind and Impregnable Mind, and keeping my characters away from Irenicus so he can't dispel them, but it is no defense.

In looking at what Irenicus does, from his dialog, when he dies, this happens:

he starts with "you k-killed me" or some variation, then:

ClearAllActions()
StartCutSceneMode()
ApplySpell(Myself,WIZARD_FREEDOM)
ActionOverride(Player1,Wait(2))
ActionOverride(Player1,StartDialogue("Player1",Player1))
PlayDeadInterruptable(300)

Which leads to:
"Irenicus crumples, his words dying on his lips, and a strange quiet envelopes the scene. You begin to wonder if you have finally won, if it is all truly over."

I think at this point, the effect has already occured, but afterwards:

ClearAllActions()
StartCutSceneMode()
StartCutScene("cut57b")

but that just creates visual effects and kills Jon.
I think something must be wrong here:
ApplySpell(Myself,WIZARD_FREEDOM)

Any ideas?

Another bug:
With the Selfishness Demon, if you are using ImoenRom, chances are your value for the Global "ImoenRomanceActive" is 2 or 4, in which case the Demon tries to take Imoen, and the dialog link goes to Imoen, without checking that Imoen is in the party.
This can cause the Selfishness challenge to fail. Oops

Edited by Vandervecken, 05 December 2009 - 01:48 AM.

[Hoppy]

Kiara Zaiya mod changes that dragon to the demon. I recommend BWP to make the BCS look like this in top block since the Demon Lord is specific to the KZ mod:

IF
	OnCreation()
	OR(2)
		!InParty("KIARA")
		!InParty("ZAIYA")
	Exists("DEMLORD")
THEN
	RESPONSE #100
		ActionOverride("DEMLORD",DestroySelf())
		CreateCreature("DRAGBLAC",[447.779],10) // Nizidramanii'yt
		Explore()
		Continue()
END

This works because KZ changes the area entirely to substitue the demon for the dragon. If you have Kiara and/or Zaiya (not sure how they work) in the party then all should be well to have the demon but not the black dragon.


For the Irenicus battle, it sounds like Player 1 dialog goes to the cutscene again instead of SetGlobal("IrenicusBeat","AR2806",2) or the other variations of that action depending on NPC's and party etc.

[Vandervecken]

Kiara Zaiya mod changes that dragon to the demon. I recommend BWP to make the BCS look like this in top block since the Demon Lord is specific to the KZ mod:

IF
	OnCreation()
	OR(2)
		!InParty("KIARA")
		!InParty("ZAIYA")
	Exists("DEMLORD")
THEN
	RESPONSE #100
		ActionOverride("DEMLORD",DestroySelf())
		CreateCreature("DRAGBLAC",[447.779],10) // Nizidramanii'yt
		Explore()
		Continue()
END

This works because KZ changes the area entirely to substitue the demon for the dragon. If you have Kiara and/or Zaiya (not sure how they work) in the party then all should be well to have the demon but not the black dragon.


For the Irenicus battle, it sounds like Player 1 dialog goes to the cutscene again instead of SetGlobal("IrenicusBeat","AR2806",2) or the other variations of that action depending on NPC's and party etc.

Thanks.
I hope these bugs get to the right people.

A bug in Throne of Bhaal:
When calling up Jaheira, the Spirit of Fate summons the "jahei14" model, when you're not in a relationship with her.
In my game, Jahei14 was given the JAHEIRA dialog, when she should have had the JAHEI25A dialog.

My Weidu.log is here:
http://www.shsforums...t...st&id=18249

[Lollorian]

Heya,

Exactly which .bcs are we talking about?? (btw, the Demon Lord in Kiara-Zaiya is given a custom name it seems, KZ#DMLRD.cre ... would that script need to be changed?? )

Cheers,
Lol

[Wisp]

(btw, the Demon Lord in Kiara-Zaiya is given a custom name it seems, KZ#DMLRD.cre ... would that script need to be changed?? )

Bear in mind that both Exists and ActionOverride use the creature's script name and not the name of the cre file.

[Lollorian]

Didn't know that Thanks

Cheers,
Lol

[Hoppy]

Didn't know that Thanks

Cheers,
Lol

...and knowing is half the battle.

[Lollorian]

But still, which .bcs lol?? (the other half remains )

Cheers,
Lol

[Hoppy]

But still, which .bcs lol?? (the other half remains )

Cheers,
Lol

I don't know ... I have never played the mod I did play that area and made the edit to my BCS because the dialog with the demon lord was clearly KZ stuff. BWP might want to expand on it so FR/RoV get copy its items to the demon lord which currently only get added to Niz...

Since the area gets overwritten, I suggest appending that block if Kiara Zaiya mod is installed. That is why I suggest BWP to append it because KZ mods the area file which becomes serious overwriting (Where are the overwriting spammers now? ). I am busy with CtB update which will be soon. Check the KZ mod to see if something can be modified to AR2807 via script.

[Lollorian]

Okay, so append that to AR8207.bcs then?? So those lines would need to be added into Kiara-Zaiya\Sulda\KZ#2807A.baf And it EXTEND_TOP's too

That is why I suggest BWP to append it because KZ mods the area file which becomes serious overwriting

At the position it's installed right now, I agree (and to think the Chapter 7 and ToB mods ... Longer Road, Ascension could've modified the area before that )

I am busy with CtB update which will be soon.

Cheers,
Lol

[Hoppy]

I am busy with CtB update which will be soon.

Cheers,
Lol

Your going to when you see the changes; well you have some of them in the pack I made. It will be, shall I say... an Unfinished Business of CTB. None of this is added by me, just things that weren't happening from the original and it is my hommage to the creator CBisson (pioneer of modding) and King Diamond (another pioneer of modding) and I want to continue their work. Anybody playing CtB now will see things that they have never seen since it was converted to WeiDU. Don't quote me on that, as I have yet to see the non-WeiDU version.

Sure there may be some bugs remaining but Zannaster the Lich will have a real cutscene. FYI it was an unused resource that exists in your game.

[Vandervecken]

I am busy with CtB update which will be soon.

Cheers,
Lol

Your going to when you see the changes; well you have some of them in the pack I made. It will be, shall I say... an Unfinished Business of CTB. None of this is added by me, just things that weren't happening from the original and it is my hommage to the creator CBisson (pioneer of modding) and King Diamond (another pioneer of modding) and I want to continue their work. Anybody playing CtB now will see things that they have never seen since it was converted to WeiDU. Don't quote me on that, as I have yet to see the non-WeiDU version.

Sure there may be some bugs remaining but Zannaster the Lich will have a real cutscene. FYI it was an unused resource that exists in your game.

If you're fixing CtB, can you do something about the Cult of the Dragon quest in general?
First, it really should be in Ch 6. As it stands now, they won't let you in until you deal with Irenicus.
I had TDD installed, so I was able to wander away from the winning ceremony with Ellesime. If I hadn't, I don't know how I would have gotten there.
Secondly, by overwriting the entrance there to being the Cult of the Dragon, they fuck up anyone who uses that cavern for anything else.
Most notably, the Tashia mod, which is a significant (i.e. high in good content) NPC mod.

Cheers
Vandervecken

[Hoppy]

@Vandervecken

First, it really should be in Ch 6. As it stands now, they won't let you in until you deal with Irenicus.

First, there are other ways that the Forest of Tethyr opens early like with TS-BP so you can start it anywhere after Chapter 2. Since The Tethyr area opens in Chapter 6 for a normal game, it should work but I will test. It is a problem I know in Chapter 7 since they want you to help Elhan which makes sense and that is the way it is.

Secondly, by overwriting the entrance there to being the Cult of the Dragon, they fuck up anyone who uses that cavern for anything else.

Please install and enjoy the patch I made for this specific reason. CtB will stay as is in this regard but I made the patch to work for CtB + TS-BP +Tashia type installs. You can install it anywhere in the installation (not sure after Gen Biffing). Even older versions of the patch should have been included with BWP but maybe you decided not to install it then.

http://www.shsforums...mp;showfile=855


EDIT: Ah Tardth.dlg looks for the check ELHANFINISHEDSPEAKING GLOBAL 1 which is set in Chapter 6 which is the problem. The player only mentions that they are helping Suldanesselar, where Elhan's dialog sets the previous global when asking to kill Bodhi and find the Lanthorn.

I will change TARDTH.DLG to change that global to Global("Chapter","GLOBAL",7) which pertains to Suldanesselar's battle and not Chapter 6's Lanthorne and Bodhi quest.

Thanks for your report Vandervecken!

Edited by Hoppy, 09 December 2009 - 01:59 PM.

[Vandervecken]

No problem.

Regarding Tashia - I am now in ToB and don't want to go back. As long as it installs automatically when you request both Tashia/TS-BP and CtB in the MegaMod install.

Also, speaking of Tethyr, does this fix the crash during the day bug.
Big thread about it with your comments here:
http://www.shsforums...p...1&hl=tethyr
but I'm not sure from the reading, whether the day/night thing has been solved.

Cheers
Vandervecken

[Hoppy]

The newest version of the patch should fix any CTD's due to overwriting. No one else could reproduce that crash during the day that I know of but there were other errors too that are taken care of. They could have been related to that.

I am not sure if Big World Setup takes care of the installation automatically but it is implemented in the BWP and you can probably add it to the install.bat easily if needed. It checks for the CtB/TS-BP installed together and will patch the area accordingly. That will restore Tashia's quest since it uses the BCS for the original cave and TS-BP uses it for Coran's quest if he is in the party.

[Vandervecken]

The newest version of the patch should fix any CTD's due to overwriting. No one else could reproduce that crash during the day that I know of but there were other errors too that are taken care of. They could have been related to that.

I am not sure if Big World Setup takes care of the installation automatically but it is implemented in the BWP and you can probably add it to the install.bat easily if needed. It checks for the CtB/TS-BP installed together and will patch the area accordingly. That will restore Tashia's quest since it uses the BCS for the original cave and TS-BP uses it for Coran's quest if he is in the party.

I could probably reproduce the bug. I have BWP 7 at the moment, and could only check the version that I have though.

[Hoppy]

The patch will work with BWP 8> since it has been revised to patch the area. It was probably something getting overwritten before and not compatible.

[Leomar]

I am not sure if Big World Setup takes care of the installation automatically...

Yes, the recent BWP tools do it automatically.

Greetings Leomar