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#1 gastu

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:10 PM

Hi. I recently installed 1pp legacy shields and flaming swords after the bg2 fixpack and before a slew of other mods. I biffed my files loaded the game and all seemed to be running smoothly until I realized the inventory icons for the shields hadn't changed, although the new 1pp versions were showing up fine on the paperdolls and avatars. I believe I forgot to install one of the components for the shields (everything but potions, maybe?) that changes these icons in the inventory to match those on the dolls and avatars. I suppose it's no big deal, as the game seems to be running just fine. It's simply a matter of consistent aesthetics within the game. My questions are: is it possible to install the missing component without having to start a clean installation? I used end_biff, option 1 at the end of my mod installation; can I install the component after this without any conflicts in the game?

#2 gastu

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 04:50 PM

Me again. Sorry if this post seems to address an issue that has already been discussed on this site. I'm not really sure if what is going on in my game is the same as what seems to have happened with others'. I did have a previous mod install with the 1pp options (all of them) included that did not have the issue that I am referring to (inventory icons being bg2 vanilla, but paperdoll and avatar being 1pp), but my game was lagging in a way that was down right unplayable. So I did a clean install, weeded out some mods, and options given by certain mods, then reinstalled and biffed. Game is running smoothly now. Just was wondering if: a) one of the components I skipped in installing 1pp may be the reason for the inconsistency, b) if it's possible to remedy this with a later installation of the skipped component, and if this could be done after biffing.

Also, I should probably state that I installed 1pp after bg2 fixpack, at the beginning of the installation process.

Sorry for the back to back posts, but I felt that my above post needed clarifying. Have to say that I love the fact that bucklers have been made little and round, and that fiery blades now look fiery. Keep working your magic!

#3 Erephine

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:04 PM

The legacy shields do not change the inventory icons, just the avatar animations. It's probably indeed the everything but potions part that is missing.

I can't say whether it would or would not cause problems to install it last (I'm not familiar with most larger mods out there). If you're using other current 1pp components (you didn't mention) like the avatar patches or the v3 paperdolls, there's almost certainly going to be some conflict (i.e. reverting to the old files).

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#4 gastu

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:29 PM

The legacy shields do not change the inventory icons, just the avatar animations. It's probably indeed the everything but potions part that is missing.

I can't say whether it would or would not cause problems to install it last (I'm not familiar with most larger mods out there). If you're using other current 1pp components (you didn't mention) like the avatar patches or the v3 paperdolls, there's almost certainly going to be some conflict (i.e. reverting to the old files).


Naw... just the legacy shields bucklers and medium shields, flaming swords and short swords, installed from 1pp v2.70. So, "everything but potions" changes the icons. Well if that's the case than I know that's why the inventory icons aren't showing up, cause I didn't install it :doh:. I know it sounds silly, but, while installing I couldn't remember what the component did (I know, I know I'm sure I could have found out by looking around - some might even think the name of the component says it all - I have a feeling it's probably stated in the read me... got lazy I guess) so I skipped it. I guess what I need to know now is whether or not I can install that component (and only that component as the others I want are already installed) now that I've biffed and all that jazz. Or, do I have to go all the way back to 1pp in the installation order to snap it in there? Guess maybe I should try posting on a biff forum. Thanks a lot for your help.

#5 Erephine

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:56 PM

You're welcome, sorry I can't be of more help. You should be fine at least where 1pp is concerned in that case, but I can't guarantee the same for other content.

And don't worry about the readme thing. It has been suggested to me that I should title my readmes "Secret Diary DON'T READ" to get people to actually read them. :)

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#6 Miloch

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:03 PM

I guess what I need to know now is whether or not I can install that component (and only that component as the others I want are already installed) now that I've biffed and all that jazz. Or, do I have to go all the way back to 1pp in the installation order to snap it in there?

In theory, yes, you can install an uninstalled mod component long after other components are installed, even after biffing. In practice, this might cause undesired results, though I doubt that'd be the case here.

And don't worry about the readme thing. It has been suggested to me that I should title my readmes "Secret Diary DON'T READ" to get people to actually read them. :)

Rofl. Maybe all readmes should be that way. Either that or make them accessible only via a big red button that says "DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, CLICK ON THIS BUTTON!"

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#7 gastu

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 09:20 PM

I guess what I need to know now is whether or not I can install that component (and only that component as the others I want are already installed) now that I've biffed and all that jazz. Or, do I have to go all the way back to 1pp in the installation order to snap it in there?

In theory, yes, you can install an uninstalled mod component long after other components are installed, even after biffing. In practice, this might cause undesired results, though I doubt that'd be the case here.

And don't worry about the readme thing. It has been suggested to me that I should title my readmes "Secret Diary DON'T READ" to get people to actually read them. :)

Rofl. Maybe all readmes should be that way. Either that or make them accessible only via a big red button that says "DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, CLICK ON THIS BUTTON!"

:lol: That sounds like a fine idea.

Guess I'll try to install the component and let the chips fall where they may. If things go screwy, guess I can always start over with a clean install. Once again, thank you for the help.

#8 Erephine

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 10:04 PM

Rofl. Maybe all readmes should be that way.


I have a feeling it would only work once though.

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#9 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:32 PM

Rofl. Maybe all readmes should be that way.

I have a feeling it would only work once though.

I am quite sure it works once, per person, I tried it once and got Dakk, so he is out.

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#10 Erephine

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:19 AM

Maybe we can hire Rick Astley for subsequent installments.

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#11 Dakk

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:00 AM

Rofl. Maybe all readmes should be that way.

I have a feeling it would only work once though.

I am quite sure it works once, per person, I tried it once and got Dakk, so he is out.

Hey, that's unfair! :clown:


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