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[melkor_morgoth75]

Ok I can't seem to get the BHHand quest working. I have done everything else <I think>. But I can't find the NPC that triggers the quest.

Hint plz!

Please, may u give some more info? Did u get the sewers? And u've come back to Pelltar then?

mm75

[Rakhu]

I have the same problem here, but I'll try to add more details

I'm in part 1, and so far have accomplished the following missions:
- Cleared bandits (cave and hut in Bald Hill)
- Talked to Almax, then Martin the Druid in Reddy Forest, then again with Almax
- Cleared burnt down house and cellars from rats
- Killed Zahrdahl
- Killed Wraith, Mage and Beholder in Bone Hill
- Finished the statue's quest (thanks to Amaunator for roasting Viconia )
- Talked to Peltar about all that stuff

From what I've read in other threads, there should be at least 6 (probably linked) things I should do before teleporting back:
- find the Hand of Glory
- find the warehouse thief and talk to Welcar
- find the Sewers
- get into the Lighthouse
- talk to Ravella (wherever she is)
- eliminate a second wave of bandits

I'm out of cues... I remember I missed the sewers the first time I played SoBH 3 years ago, but I thought the entrance was in the same area as the burnt down house (on the left side, next to the smaller house there). But I can't remember what triggered showing the entrance there.

Can anybody help?

[Jarno Mikkola]

- find the Sewers
- get into the Lighthouse

This is done by first going to the map where the main Temple structure is(the map icon is the same as the The Song of the Morning Temples), then exiting from the North on top of the hill where the Temple stands on, you'll find a cemetery and the entrance to the sewers. Which theoretically goes up to the Light house(I have forgotten how).

[Rakhu]

I've been to that area too, and I can see that one of the two graves shows an interact symbol. Problem is that nothing happens when I click on it. Is there any prerequisite I need to activate it?

[Rakhu]

Just bumbling around a bit with NI... looks like the grave in BH0600 (small area north of temple) doesn't trigger any hidden entrance, but will be of use later on... So I wonder if the entrance to the sewers is really supposed to be there? I could swear I remember some tiny pixel in that burnt down house area pointing down to the sewers. I'll try to find something, but if any of you finds the entrance or the reasion for not showing the entrance faster, don't hesitate to tell me

[Rakhu]

Ok... if I get this straight, then Pelltar himself should talk to me about some kind of thefts (BHPELL.DLG Action 28) to initiate the Hand quest. I wonder what triggers actions in that script... bumbling some more

[Rakhu]

Ok that whole stuff confuses me a bit... perhaps modding isn't that simple after all
To make it short, I can't find the trigger that allows me to go down to the sewers, be it Hand quest related or not. All I've found so far points to Pelltar offering that quest, but I can't figure what triggers *him* to offer it. Did I miss any other NPC to talk to? I spent 15 minutes clicking on peasants trying to get all local talk out of them, but nothing had to do with thefts or sewers.

[Rakhu]

That really starts to bother me
I think I figured most of the handling of NI, but I have no clue what triggers those "Actions" in either Gelpas or Pelltar's dialogs to talk to me about that Hand quest, setting that annoying BHHandQuestAccept Global to 1. Does a certain dialog trigger them? Or carrying an item? Or performing an action? Please guys, any help on this would be great!

[Rakhu]

Well... my bad for not finding a better solution, but I'll skip that mod tomorrow, Boo is getting itchy to continue

[melkor_morgoth75]

It seems weird to me also ... if u just have a save BEFORE u speak about The Hand to Pelltar u can simply RE-LOAD it an it will work. I don't have a clue why and where it triggers ...

mm75

PS: anyway the mod is really enjoable, it has some bugs left, but it deserved to be played.

Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 26 November 2009 - 08:58 AM.

[Rakhu]

Thanks to Guest - - I figured a workaround for the problem. In area BH1200, Thief's Den, the Bandit Leader BHBANDT3 never spawns, no matter day or night, because I never got Pelltar's dialog StrRef 121482. If I'm correct, the action in response to this dialog sets the global BHHandQuest to 1. I lost my trace beyond that, though. After spawning him manually, everything worked perfectly fine.

And yes, I agree that aside from some minor obstacles the mod is very well done

Edited by Rakhu, 28 November 2009 - 03:17 AM.

[Graoumf]

Yes, this quest can be activated when:
1. you talk to Pelltar and tell him that you're ready to leave

And then here are the main:
2. Then you are interrupted by Gelpas who accuses you and Pelltar of robbery and murder... blablabla... finally you must talk to Welcar (he's on the south of Restenford map with some dogs)
3. you must find the thieves (there are on the map Thief's Den, near the bridge at north... you pick up a scrap paper on them
4. let's show this paper to Pelltar who invites you to read some books... 8 hours later, you've got some informations on a famous thief (Reinhardt or somethink lihe this)
5. let's go to the temple map, and speak to the guards near the hanging tree (it's the red one near the wall)... here you'll meet Ravella who finally indicate you the graveyard
6. dig the grave near you... you find "someone". The entrance of the sewers is near this grave
7. you find an hand and a note in the sewers... go to Pelltar, and then to Welcar, who tells you to speak to Zelmar (Wind West tavern)
8. Speak to Smyth (weapons, shield...) and then go to the lighthouse. You'll find the thief.

Edited by Graoumf, 07 February 2010 - 02:48 AM.

[Aramyr]

I can't get oput from Restenford! I was everywhere:
[list=1]
[*]cleared Bonehill completely
[*]kill bandits on balhill
[*]meesage delivered to martin
[*]found the black opal
[*]killed 2nd wave of bandits
But still when I talk to Pelltar he asked if we find something. I think ther was a line about the gnome Boromac(?) who runs the lighthouse. I didn't know what happened to him or at least I can't dig up the new grave near the sewer entrance -although the cursor become 2 semicirle- it only say: It's a new grave. Nothing else. Isthere somethig tool needed to open the grave?

[erebusant]

I can't get oput from Restenford! I was everywhere:
[list=1]
[*]cleared Bonehill completely
[*]kill bandits on balhill
[*]meesage delivered to martin
[*]found the black opal
[*]killed 2nd wave of bandits
But still when I talk to Pelltar he asked if we find something. I think ther was a line about the gnome Boromac(?) who runs the lighthouse. I didn't know what happened to him or at least I can't dig up the new grave near the sewer entrance -although the cursor become 2 semicirle- it only say: It's a new grave. Nothing else. Isthere somethig tool needed to open the grave?

Did you get the cutscene where you search the library after showing Pelltar the note from the hand bandit leader? If so, you need to speak with the guards at the Hanging tree on the temple map near the gate on the road to garrotten.

[Aramyr]

Thanks for the reply I did that. my bad: I didn't browse through the forums I found the solution yesterday but I can' delete my previous question. I'm planning to make a walkthrough for this mod using the informations on this site.

It was pretty tricky to find the guard by the hanging tree. He was covered by leaves.

[Lollorian]

I'm planning to make a walkthrough for this mod using the informations on this site.

Now that would be really great (especially for Part1)