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#1 Ebon

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:59 AM

Imprisonment is quite interesting. It definitely takes a character out of a game. Sure it sends the equipment away with them, but maybe not everyone has useful loot. Do you use this spell regularly? It has no save vs spell, so it's got to be powerful, and it's gotta feel cool to be the hero of justice, sending anyone guilty to the great jail of under-Earth (yeah, instead of slaughtering them). Perhaps the crowning moment for the standard abjurer specialist.

If I use imprisonment on townsfolk, do the neighbours notice and become hostile? I haven't got the chance to test it.

Is that strange sphere with slots, from the Underdark, an actual imprisonment sphere, discovered through digging? The freed characters act just like that.

Finally, about freedom: is it any worth keeping as a memorized spell? Do secret imprisoned characters exist (apart from that suicidal mage who wants to be killed by elementals)? At least in mods?

Edited by Ebon, 16 June 2009 - 02:03 AM.


#2 Cal Jones

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 01:14 AM

Well, I don't use it for the reason you say - you lose the loot and also don't get the XP. I'd also rather give the enemy a quick death than sentence them to an eternity of being buried alive. To me, that is far more cruel than killing them.
As for freedom, I haven't come across any characters other than the mage in the Underdark, so I don't really feel the need to learn the spell. If my part members get imprisoned I always reload because that has a tendency to break romances and other dialogues.

#3 Ebon

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:42 PM

I forgot it gives no experience either -- which means it's less worthy for non-high-end parties.

As for the burrying being cruel, well I've always considered the imprisoned ones to be in some form of stasis, because logically and under normal conditions, they'd die quickly isolated without air and food.

Maybe secret characters will appear in mods.

#4 Tassadar88

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 10:30 PM

That would actually be a pretty neat idea :)
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 08:29 PM

Unfortunatly when you use imprisonment on locals some do go hostile,

for example lady de arnise, the queen bee, the biddy from hades, the woman who thinks her dookie dosnt stink...

yep if you imprison her, you lose rep, and her protector goes hostile. but there was once when i got her, and her protector had just left the screen!

but when the keep became mine, i lost rep she didnt make it to say she was not staying there HA

but it sure is fun to know that she is in a place where she really really really belongs for all time!

once in awhile, as i know no other way, i like to have my parties in certain orders. and will use the cursed scrolls of petrification to rearrange my party. fighters towards the front, others in the back.

its just a game and my party members do not have any feelings, its not like i am actualy hurting them.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 07:55 PM

Imprisonment is quite interesting. It definitely takes a character out of a game. Sure it sends the equipment away with them, but maybe not everyone has useful loot.

P5 Tweaks (link in sig) changes it so that imprisoned creatures drop what they're carrying first, which I've argued is how normal imprisonment works so why not magical imprisonment?

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#7 Ebon

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 12:12 AM

Imprisonment is quite interesting. It definitely takes a character out of a game. Sure it sends the equipment away with them, but maybe not everyone has useful loot.

P5 Tweaks (link in sig) changes it so that imprisoned creatures drop what they're carrying first, which I've argued is how normal imprisonment works so why not magical imprisonment?

You'd have to spend more energy to also strip the charged off their gear, than just sending everything to Earth.

#8 Miloch

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 02:10 AM

You'd have to spend more energy to also strip the charged off their gear, than just sending everything to Earth.

What do you mean by 'charged'? The target drops everything (except for undroppable items).

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#9 Icendoan

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 04:52 AM

Modding wise, how would you imprison someone? (Just a question, I have enough on my plate right now as it is)

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#10 Ebon

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 02:27 AM

You'd have to spend more energy to also strip the charged off their gear, than just sending everything to Earth.

What do you mean by 'charged'? The target drops everything (except for undroppable items).

The charged are the guilty, and it's about IMPRISONMENT stripping them of their gear. Sorry for bad English :P