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#1 prowler

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 12:41 AM

Installed: BWP (Tactics version)

1) When I click to Imoen, and she usuelly must said: "Yep" "Whacta want" or "Yer a queer fellow" - but she speaks another words like are : Now I remember why traveling with you was so much fun" etc...
Is it a mistake, bug ..or?

2) Finch NPC - ftom pocketplane.net
It seem that this mod not fully compatible with BWP - 'cause some Finch item doesn't work properly. (her Glasses of Identification) - may be it should right to move Finch NPC to category "Expert mods"

here is my weidu log

http://rapidshare.de.../Weidu.log.html

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#2 prowler

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 01:59 AM

one more

My group is 2-3 level. I have Imoen in my party and Jaheira.
After small talk Inoen recieves 175000XP!!!!! and become level 10
http://i053.radikal....7be9300afff.jpg

Edited by prowler, 07 June 2009 - 01:59 AM.

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#3 Chevalier

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 02:14 AM

Installed: BWP (Tactics version)

1) When I click to Imoen, and she usuelly must said: "Yep" "Whacta want" or "Yer a queer fellow" - but she speaks another words like are : Now I remember why traveling with you was so much fun" etc...
Is it a mistake, bug ..or?

Not a bug I think. From your WeiDU.log:
~SETUP-DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #200 // Extended NPC Soundsets -> Additions only: v215
BG2 sounds are added.

2) Finch NPC - ftom pocketplane.net
It seem that this mod not fully compatible with BWP - 'cause some Finch item doesn't work properly. (her Glasses of Identification) - may be it should right to move Finch NPC to category "Expert mods"

here is my weidu log

http://rapidshare.de.../Weidu.log.html

You are right, just give her a real pair of Glasses of Identification.

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#4 prowler

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:22 AM

Thanks Chevalier! And what do you think about 175000 XP getting Imoen? It is a clearly a bug...

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#5 Chevalier

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:35 AM

A bug, but no idea what is causing it.

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#6 Leomar

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:55 AM

2) Finch NPC - ftom pocketplane.net
It seem that this mod not fully compatible with BWP - 'cause some Finch item doesn't work properly. (her Glasses of Identification) - may be it should right to move Finch NPC to category "Expert mods"

Normally all should be fine with her glasses, perhaps a new mod causes some incompatibility. We're looking into it.

My group is 2-3 level. I have Imoen in my party and Jaheira.
After small talk Inoen recieves 175000XP!!!!! and become level 10
http://i053.radikal....7be9300afff.jpg

Hmmm, perhaps "Imoen Romance" has something to do with it. We're looking into it, too.


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#7 guenthar

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:17 AM

I guess the bug with Finch's glasses was never fixed since I just encountered it also. At first I thought it was a problem with editing my save game so she could have her proper class (Priest of Deneir) but I checked everything and didn't find a problem so decided to do a search and found this topic.

#8 Fennek

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 04:50 AM

Yea, the bug exists and we know about it. It's even in a list of existing bugs. However, that doesn't help you with your problem... :whistling:
Jastey wanted to have a look on the mod (and Lollorian aleady provided some fixes for it), but I have no idea when she will do that (and I also don't think that this is a terrible bug, I personally hate identifying stuff and directly cheat in normal glasses...).

#9 guenthar

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 02:55 AM

I found another bug with Finch with removing her from my party. The first part is that smetimes she doesn't get fully removed from my party but that is easy to fix. (It only happened once and I fixed it with ctrl - q) The second problem is if I remove her from the party I can't talk to her anymore. (Finch- Has nothing to say to you) This is the only npc that this has happened to without pissing them off.

PS. Is there anything I can edit in my save game to make Finch talk to me again?

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I tested to see if anything changes by leaving the area and after multiple tries the same thing happens.

Edited by guenthar, 05 February 2011 - 03:15 AM.


#10 Fennek

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 06:21 AM

@Not properly leaving: No idea.
@Talk: I think Lollorian changed it so that it takes at least one minute until Finch starts to talk with you. The modder made her automatically start a talk when she wasn't in the party but a party member in her area (she's the only NPC where this happens, afair), but that caused problems since she directly restarted talking if she was not sent to another area or joined. Simply wait a bit. And yes, she's not the most bug-free NPC.
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#11 guenthar

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 09:55 AM

Actually I waited way longer then a minute and she just stands there and won't talk to me. I have left and did a few areas and came back and it is the same. I wanted to finish her quest but didn't want her in my party since I replaced her with Viconia.

#12 JohnMoonlord

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 04:52 PM

Same here, for both the glasses and the I'm-not-talking-to-you-anymore thing. Hope you folks eventually come up with something.
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#13 Fennek

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:22 PM

Yes... eventually... Quite the right word.

#14 Vreejack

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 06:12 AM

Yes... eventually... Quite the right word.


Is the "not talking to you anymore" a fix of a previous bug?

Finch used to hail you every time you entered the area she was in. It was a serious bug as you had to either kill her or put up with telling her to go away ever half second until you left that area. If you kicked her from the group you had to make sure it was in some place you would not visit very often.

As for the glasses not working...I thought it was me not knowing how to target an object with an object-cast spell.

#15 Rian Q.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:31 AM

Is there any possibility that Finch's glasses not working is related to the Baldur's Gate Trilogy mod? I recall she is a BG1 NPC (And one of the most splendidly-designed NPCs I've seen) and BGT ports it to the BG2 engine. I've noticed the not-talking bug as well meaning I need to CTRL+Q her into the party when I want her back. It's rare I kick her out though, she's just too awesome.