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#81 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 11:14 AM

the patch only is affecting the original install (C:\Game\BG2) and not my new one (C:\Game\BGII - SoA).

Any thoughts?

Delete everything else but the baldur.ini in the C:\Game\BGII - SoA, then move the baldur.ini to somewhere else and then copy the C:\Game\BG2 to the C:\Game\BGII - SoA, and then move the .ini back in.

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#82 Icendoan

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:47 PM

Actually, I repatched my BG2 install, just to be safe, and had a look at the batch file. It turns out, you only need a text file called BG2-TobPatchReadme.txt >_<

Which, you have to admit, is a little more elegant than your method :P

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:05 PM

Re: Install Order

After reading about Spell Revisions I see that Spell Revisions changes Familiars. 'Authentic mischiefous Fairy Dragon v6' is installed before Spell Revisions. Will Spell Revisions overwrite/change Authentic Fairy Dragon? Should the order be changed?

Not at least for now, as the familiars are not even in the v3...

Demivrgvs confirmed that the changes listed in the readme to familiars are in the current version, there are more changes coming in v3 that are not yet part of the Hot fixes. I think most likely that it would be best that Authentic Fairy Dragon be installed after Spell Revisions.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 10:02 PM

@Icendoan:
The BWS looks at the file-version of the BGMain.exe, but since the batch cannot do that, it searches for a text-file. The first version is better (at least I think so) - but since the batch should be a stand-alone-product, it has it's own check.
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Posted 20 May 2009 - 11:09 PM

Yeah, that was what was confusing me. I had patched my other game and restored from that backup, several times, to no avail. >_<

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 10:20 AM

I see you changed setup-NEJ2Biffer.tp2 so that it would not auto start setup-NeJ2.exe (I understand this is for your install.bat). You might think to put a note about it in the BiG_World pdf so those few of us who still use manual install can remove the '\\' on the last line.

We'll mention it in the guide. Thanks.

Demivrgvs confirmed that the changes listed in the readme to familiars are in the current version, there are more changes coming in v3 that are not yet part of the Hot fixes. I think most likely that it would be best that Authentic Fairy Dragon be installed after Spell Revisions.

Thanks again, we'll do it.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:14 PM

Hello and greetings to the BWP Team. I'm sorry for not logging in but doing that to ask just a couple of simple questions seems to defeat the purpose.

I am pleased to say that during my past experiences with the BWP, I have had ZERO bugs that couldn't be handled by NI and CLUAConsole. So this is not a bug report.

I have always been a fan of the 1pp and was wondering why the Attachable Wings and Female Dwarves components aren't included. Seeing that Erephine is updating the Dwarves every week, I reckon they can wait till finished, but Attachable Wings is finished iirc. So, is it installable? If so, where in the install order?

Also, I just wanted to get a searing doubt cleared. In the linklist, there are 3 mods, Black Rose: Market Prices 1, Selune's Armory 2 and Wikaede Revisited 4.1 that in your own words, have been removed from the net. But in the iegmc mirror, I found Selune's Armory 1 and Wikaede 3.4 which seem to work well. Are they usable? While I do respect the author's decision to have the newer versions withdrawn, I don't understand why older versions of the mod are available while the newer versions are deprecated.

Oh yes, and could someone point me to some tutorial on how to translate mods, I'll have some months free soon and can translate German and/or French into English. I admit that I do have literary skills but lack in the technical aspects of .tra files and such. So, any tutorial to get me started will do. Thanks and good luck for all your future endeavours.

#88 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:32 AM

I have always been a fan of the 1pp and was wondering why the Attachable Wings and Female Dwarves components aren't included. Seeing that Erephine is updating the Dwarves every week, I reckon they can wait till finished, but Attachable Wings is finished iirc. So, is it installable? If so, where in the install order?

Well, the attachable wings aren't actually finished, as they work with only Elf's, and as they are not included in the first part of this, they generally aren't included, now the dwarfs are part of this mod, and as it's a new component of that mod, you just have to wait until update, or you could just adjust the .bat file yourself.

Also, I just wanted to get a searing doubt cleared. In the linklist, there are 3 mods, Black Rose: Market Prices 1, Selune's Armory 2 and Wikaede Revisited 4.1 that in your own words, have been removed from the net. But in the iegmc mirror, I found Selune's Armory 1 and Wikaede 3.4 which seem to work well. Are they usable? While I do respect the author's decision to have the newer versions withdrawn, I don't understand why older versions of the mod are available while the newer versions are deprecated.

Well, I believe the original mods are quite buggy once and as the newest are still somewhat... so it stands the old once are not a good match with the BWP.

Oh yes, and could someone point me to some tutorial on how to translate mods, I'll have some months free soon and can translate German and/or French into English. I admit that I do have literary skills but lack in the technical aspects of .tra files and such. So, any tutorial to get me started will do. Thanks and good luck for all your future endeavours.

Here is the tutorial... but you should also know that...
If the mod has a .tra file, it can be translated to other languages by just making the language representing .tra file and small change to the mods installation file(.tp2).
Now, if it doesn't have that, the WeiDU can auto-tra the mod files, so that you then have to just copy the made tra file and do the translation of it and then do the same change on the tp2 file.

Now, if you are going to translate any mods, you actually should make contact with the mod author, as the above procedure is a bit taxing to handle on once own, and as the mod should be updated with the translation, and that's the mod authors job...

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:24 AM

Thank you very much my friend. I'm glad I took the time to have my doubts cleared.

Well, the attachable wings aren't actually finished, as they work with only Elf's, and as they are not included in the first part of this, they generally aren't included, now the dwarfs are part of this mod, and as it's a new component of that mod, you just have to wait until update, or you could just adjust the .bat file yourself.

I realize what you say now. If I understand right, the Female Dwarves are going to be included in the Avatar Fixes (creating a 40 MB download). I will wait for their completion then. And about the wings, I always regarded them as being "elves-only" so I am sorry for assuming them to be complete.

Well, I believe the original mods are quite buggy once and as the newest are still somewhat... so it stands the old once are not a good match with the BWP.

Oh well, that sucks doesn't it? 3 perfectly green mods that can't be used.

Here is the tutorial... but you should also know that...
If the mod has a .tra file, it can be translated to other languages by just making the language representing .tra file and small change to the mods installation file(.tp2).
Now, if it doesn't have that, the WeiDU can auto-tra the mod files, so that you then have to just copy the made tra file and do the translation of it and then do the same change on the tp2 file.
Now, if you are going to translate any mods, you actually should make contact with the mod author, as the above procedure is a bit taxing to handle on once own, and as the mod should be updated with the translation, and that's the mod authors job...

Of course, I saw CLANDlan set up a mirror here at the SHS and was thoroughly frustrated at their mods being in Spanish (except Haiass and Celestiales). I have heard of the many translating projects on the docks and would like to help with Anglo-fying some of the smaller NPC mods out there.

Right now, I think I'll just stick to dealing with traified mods, which seem to be a lot easier. Thank you for the answers and another round of thanks to the BWP for bringing the entire community under one platform.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:24 AM

Ok, now all Big world install.bat does it get stuck in a 1PP installation loop. It just runs the executable again and again, without stopping or installing any other mods.

How do I get it to work as intended?

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#91 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:53 AM

Ok, now all Big world install.bat does it get stuck in a 1PP installation loop. It just runs the executable again and again, without stopping or installing any other mods.

How do I get it to work as intended?

Well the BWP uses two different 1PP products, now... What does it read in your Big World Install.bat between the 2. Improvements -line and the 3. NEJ -line? Mine reads this:
%.%2. IMPROVEMENTS | %M%
%.%
%.%
%IFS%1pp%S%1pp%L%0%SK% 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | %M%
%IFS%1pp_avatars%S%1pp_avatars%L%0%SK% 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | %M%
%IFS%item_rev%S%item_rev%L%0%SK% 0 1 | %M%
%IFXES%Oversight%S%Oversight%L%0%SK% 0 | %M%
%IFXGS%Oversight%S%Oversight%L%4%SK% 0 | %M%
%.%
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%.%3. NEJ | %M%
The version need to be somewhat new, so they have all the 11 and 15 components...

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:48 AM

Ah, I redownloaded the .bat and it seems to be working, now. :D

In other news, I can't seem to install TDD, as it requires a BGT script (ARAM00.bcs). This is because, as far as I can tell, TDD is being installed before BGT.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 06:37 PM

Hey, I just installed this megamod (thanks a bundle for it, I didn't think I would find such a great mod resource). I just have a small question.

Is it normal for helmets on the paperdolls in the inventory screen not to match the helmets equipped? Like say, the horned helmet you can buy from the dude inside the Candlekeep inn doesn't have horns. It just appears as a skullcap thingy.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 07:59 PM

Yes, depending on which mods you have installed (like some from 1pp)

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:18 PM

Yes, depending on which mods you have installed (like some from 1pp)


Ah right. So is there a way to keep them? I installed it through the .bat file using the standard option, and I don't see anything regarding helms in the installation instructions that might have triggered it.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 12:13 AM

Yes, depending on which mods you have installed (like some from 1pp)

Ah right. So is there a way to keep them? I installed it through the .bat file using the standard option, and I don't see anything regarding helms in the installation instructions that might have triggered it.

Keep what, the right references to the right equipment while still using the 1PP?
Well you would need a mod that alters the equipment the right way in the reference... Item Revision should do that, for most items, but the mod does a lot of other things too... and of course, the more mods you have, the more of a shamble the things look like.

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Yes, depending on which mods you have installed (like some from 1pp)

Ah right. So is there a way to keep them? I installed it through the .bat file using the standard option, and I don't see anything regarding helms in the installation instructions that might have triggered it.

Keep what, the right references to the right equipment while still using the 1PP?
Well you would need a mod that alters the equipment the right way in the reference... Item Revision should do that, for most items, but the mod does a lot of other things too... and of course, the more mods you have, the more of a shamble the things look like.


Ah right. May as well stick with it considering I'm using a majority of the item mods. Thanks for the help.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 03:31 PM

Hello!

On my aging Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver) under OS X 10.4.11, I've followed all the BiG World v.7 instructions that apply to my BGII - SoA/ToB installation (not doing BGT or BP or TuTu or anything like that). I install all mods manually (meaning no scripts or batches or anything like that), and I haven't used any of the BiG World fixpack components or other such files, as I suspect they're not needed for my purposes (could be wrong here!). Everything installs just fine using weidu-mac, and I've updated all mods to version 207 of WeiDU prior to installing them.

I appreciate all the work that has gone into this most ambitious project, and it helps me to test the game with all the mods I have installed. Way to go!

I've encountered a repeatable error that causes the game to crash to desktop due to an assertion failure. The problem is that a mod that affects some of the game areas (including the Docks District and the Trademeet inn) is causing this to happen: "CreatureSize==0". This results in the game crashing, and I can't pinpoint the offending mod without assistance, as I'm the greenest of green modders ;)

Anyway, I find BiG World to be invaluable, and am certain that I'd hopelessly botch my mega-installation without it :)

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 08:07 PM

Sorry if this is the wrong forum. I installed with BWP 7.0 all Standard mods except the Widescreen Mod and things have been running very well EXCEPT: I cannot get Finch and her glasses to identify anything! Even after 1+ days of resting, when I give her something to identify, the "Spell" and "Scroll" options are not selectable, only Cancel. Any advice appreciated!

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:46 AM

I'm not sure how to help on that, this also being my first BWP. :(

Anyway, "big world isntall.bat" has installed everything with full administrator rights over the course of the night, but it is hanging on setup-banterpack.exe, and has been for several hours now.

This is something like the huge Weidu WSM had, except it is an earlier version. (20600)

I have restarted the bat, and removed all mod entries that are currently installed (so I don't have to install/uninstall them all), and it is still hanging at the same place.

Any thoughts?

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