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[kthxbye]

Korax's neutral until charname meets him and talks to him, there is a forced Dire Charm effect during conversation. I don't think there are allied creatures anywhere, if not summoned or charmed (through usual ways or by dialog like Korax).

I know there could be issues with the calls for help component, that's why I said I could test it in a complete run through BG1. Anyway, I don't know how much work would changing the scripts be, so I don't know if it's worth the effort. Moreover, the most important thing is that you're interested in trying it for your mod. I suggested it because I think having an area that "lives" since the very first step in it is something that really adds gameplay value to the atmosphere, so it would only be an option to "enhance" gameplay and in no way a "patch" for the "spawn inside sight distance" issue.

Regarding that, I don't want to "create" problems where there are none: like I said, 99% of the time monsters spawn outside visual range. When they spawn inside the range, they anyway spawn halfway between the character and the maximum visual range allowed, so it's never in middle of the party, and 99% of the time this happens it's not a problem either, unless the spawned monsters are ranged users. Moreover, I noticed slowdowns on my pc in general - even with no programs open - sometimes, so it could be that when I get the spawn too near to the characters it's because of my machine.

I apologize for the lenghty post but I find it really difficult to convey what I'd like to say in a forum - it always sounds like I'm complaining or similar, but that's not the case. The mod's great as it is, I just wanted to suggest you an idea that I like and that maybe you hadn't thought of before.

EDIT: re-reading the post I noticed I haven't answered to one of your questions. Right now I experienced spawns inside visual range only in the Gnoll Fortress and in the area south of the Friendly Arm Inn. As I said anyway it could be because of slowdowns of my machine during that particular spawn, but in no way related to the mod and/or to BG. (I'm sorry I didn't mention slowdowns before but I noticed them only after my first post about the spawn thing.)

Edited by kthxbye, 07 May 2009 - 05:20 AM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

You're more than welcome with your ideas and suggestions kthxbye, much appreciated

I can think of changing the current configuration, which simply follows the standard vanilla game way of spawning. I sympathize your idea of having the spawns "happening" just as soon as u load an area, but it's something that needs testing. Let's say i can put it on my "to do" list as an optional component eventually.

One other aim i have for the future, would be to "randomize" (if possible, i'm not still sure about it) the "points of spawns" so that u won't know WHERE a spawn could happen in the area (again, something that would bring freshness to the game),

thanks again for your kind words (and feedback), I'd like, when possible (and if RL permits), to improve the mod.

mm75

Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 07 May 2009 - 05:36 AM.

[10th]

@Guest
Looking at the scripts, the following conditions have to be met by your party in order to get the chance to encounter 4, or even 5 ankhegs:
-One of your party members has to be level 6 or higher.
-Your Party has to have at least 5 members.

10th

Edited by 10th, 09 May 2009 - 05:07 PM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

10th is correct, to have some Ankheg to face u have to meet "some conditions" ...

@Guest: anyway i understood u faced some of them in a previous game, then, after u installed SCS, u didn't have the same encounters, or at least BGSpawn doesn't work as it should. Is that correct? Or is it just a matter of party members and Highest levelled character? Please may you post also your weidu log please? Installing SCS before or later BGSpawn really makes no difference and u should not have different behaviours in your game.

mm75

[melkor_morgoth75]

First thing to notice is that u installed BG2 fixpack too late ... from SCS II readme, it needs BG2 Fixpack installed BEFORE SCSII. That could leave to major problems anyway in your game.

I'd suggest u to follow BIG World Project details for mega installation and regarding yours i'd go for:

BG2 Fixpack
BGT
BG1 NPC
SCS
SCSII
Tweaks
...series
BGT Music
BGT GUI

If u run this install, u won't have issues in your game. Current config is not correct according to author's mods ...

mm75

[kthxbye]

I think (melkor please correct me if I'm wrong!) you can install BGSpawns anytime after BGT. My suggestion would be to install it between BGT and SCSI, since installing SCSI before BGSpawns means the BGSpawns creatures won't always follow the rules you decided to use with SCSI (for example, hobgoblin shamans using BG2 spells even if you chose to let them use BG1 spells only with SCSI). That's the only difference between installing it before or after SCSI anyway, so it really isn't that important.

[kthxbye]

Mmhh, my Imoen's been just Unholy Blighted to death by an hobgoblin shaman even if I installed SCSI after BGSpawn and chose to use BG1 spells only.. Odd.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Mmhh, my Imoen's been just Unholy Blighted to death by an hobgoblin shaman even if I installed SCSI after BGSpawn and chose to use BG1 spells only.. Odd.

Really i didn't touch Hobgoblin Shaman (only Hobgoblin Slayer), so it should be something related to SCS (if it touches such creature of course).

mm75

Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 10 May 2009 - 08:21 PM.

[kthxbye]

Ups, I thought it was one of your creatures because I've never seen them in a vanilla install. My bet then is the hobgoblin shaman is formerly a BG2 creature, so affected by SCSII and not SCSI (thus, using BG2 spells too).

Edited by kthxbye, 10 May 2009 - 11:55 PM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Ups, I thought it was one of your creatures because I've never seen them in a vanilla install. My bet then is the hobgoblin shaman is formerly a BG2 creature, so affected by SCSII and not SCSI (thus, using BG2 spells too).

Oh yeah, correct

mm75

[kthxbye]

You might want to insert some more creatures in low-levels spawns at the Xvart village. I made it at level ~3 (5 people, higher one a bard level 4, lowest one Minsc level 2) and had to fight just two spawns of 2 xvarts each, one spawn of 7 or 8 xvarts between the village and the cave, two worgs in the middle of the village and obviously Nexlit and the bear.
With more creatures it would be more difficult but would recall more closely a village.
I'd also suggest to remove the worgs, as roleplaying-wise I don't see some xvarts manage to tame them.

(For instance: making the village a bit more like Gnoll's fortress, where with the same party I had to fight a lot of gnolls and it really was like a siege - loved it! I had to gulp every potion I had, and still left with the party with less than half health each! Really a challenge, and RP-wise a really good place.)

[melkor_morgoth75]

You might want to insert some more creatures in low-levels spawns at the Xvart village. I made it at level ~3 (5 people, higher one a bard level 4, lowest one Minsc level 2) and had to fight just two spawns of 2 xvarts each, one spawn of 7 or 8 xvarts between the village and the cave, two worgs in the middle of the village and obviously Nexlit and the bear.
With more creatures it would be more difficult but would recall more closely a village.
I'd also suggest to remove the worgs, as roleplaying-wise I don't see some xvarts manage to tame them.

(For instance: making the village a bit more like Gnoll's fortress, where with the same party I had to fight a lot of gnolls and it really was like a siege - loved it! I had to gulp every potion I had, and still left with the party with less than half health each! Really a challenge, and RP-wise a really good place.)

Thanks again for your feedback, again much appreciated.

U have a point here about Xvart's village. At that levels with 5 party chars u can face up to 6 xvarts and eventually some wolves or worgs (anyway, for rpg-wise u can imagine as they come from below the village or just riding around). I kept into consideration a mod here in this very area: BP. BP as a single optional compoment who improves A LOT the Xvart Village with new creatures and Xvart themselves (that's why i didn't take care so much about improving this area).
I can think anyway of "grabbing" something from that component (Horred i think wont' mind) and implement in my mod ... nice catch

U're right, Gnoll fortress is really hard right now and i enjoy it too. I remember any of my game when it was sooo easy and boring to go there...right now, VERY difficult fortress indeed

Please, if u can, i'm always really eager to hear feedbacks as yours

Thanks,

mm75

Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 12 May 2009 - 02:40 AM.

[erebusant]

You might want to insert some more creatures in low-levels spawns at the Xvart village. I made it at level ~3 (5 people, higher one a bard level 4, lowest one Minsc level 2) and had to fight just two spawns of 2 xvarts each, one spawn of 7 or 8 xvarts between the village and the cave, two worgs in the middle of the village and obviously Nexlit and the bear.
With more creatures it would be more difficult but would recall more closely a village.
I'd also suggest to remove the worgs, as roleplaying-wise I don't see some xvarts manage to tame them.

(For instance: making the village a bit more like Gnoll's fortress, where with the same party I had to fight a lot of gnolls and it really was like a siege - loved it! I had to gulp every potion I had, and still left with the party with less than half health each! Really a challenge, and RP-wise a really good place.)

Thanks again for your feedback, again much appreciated.

U have a point here about Xvart's village. At that levels with 5 party chars u can face up to 6 xvarts and eventually some wolves or worgs (anyway, for rpg-wise u can imagine as they come from below the village or just riding around). I kept into consideration a mod here in this very area: BP. BP as a single optional compoment who improves A LOT the Xvart Village with new creatures and Xvart themselves (that's why i didn't take care so much about improving this area).
I can think anyway of "grabbing" something from that component (Horred i think wont' mind) and implement in my mod ... nice catch

U're right, Gnoll fortress is really hard right now and i enjoy it too. I remember any of my game when it was sooo easy and boring to go there...right now, VERY difficult fortress indeed

Please, if u can, i'm always really eager to hear feedbacks as yours

Thanks,

mm75

DSotSC already stole Horred's Xvart Shaman's and Protectors and updated the area script for them, but adding a few more Xvarts and Shamans and Protectors to the vspawn locations wouldn't hurt....

[melkor_morgoth75]

Thanks Erebusant, i will have a look at DSotSC cre as well so

Mate, in the meantime just a bit off-topic, did u get my email?

cheers!

MM75

[Leomar]

German gamers reported, that BGSpawns is quite hard. There are areas, which has lots of more enemies as it is without your mod. The main reports are about the gnoll fortress. Each 40m spawns around 10 gnolls (with wild dogs) and make it impossible to go further without the whole party is defeated. They say the spawns happens to much and to often.

Have you changed the timer of the spawn points and/or added more spawn point with your mod?

Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 19 May 2009 - 10:21 PM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

German gamers reported, that BGSpawns is quite hard. There are areas, which has lots of more enemies as it is without your mod. The main reports are about the gnoll fortress. Each 40m spawns around 10 gnolls (with wild dogs) and make it impossible to go further without the whole party is defeated. They say the spawns happens to much and to often.

Have you changed the timer of the spawn points and/or added more spawn point with your mod?

Greetings Leomar

No, i didn't add any new spawn points. But now u face the number of gnoll a fortress should have
Is that player resting after any fight with Gnolls? Please keep in mind that spawns ... re-spawn any 8 hours so that's why he could face them again and again.

What's the highest levelled character in his party and how many party members he/she has?

mm75