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[Lollorian]

CREs in the Vault with SHOUT.BCS attached: GOLEMS.CRE, jc_drw01.cre, jc_drw04.cre,jc_drw05.cre, JC_GOL.cre, jc_mag01.cre, JC_THF03.CRE

 

Should all of them be de-shouted?

 

Also, wouldn't this be an issue with SCS's SHOUT.BCS modifications or something? (I think Beleg33 did test out the mod and all of its fights when he updated - probably without SCS )

[Roxanne]

CREs in the Vault with SHOUT.BCS attached: GOLEMS.CRE, jc_drw01.cre, jc_drw04.cre,jc_drw05.cre, JC_GOL.cre, jc_mag01.cre, JC_THF03.CRE

 

Should all of them be de-shouted?

 

Also, wouldn't this be an issue with SCS's SHOUT.BCS modifications or something? (I think Beleg33 did test out the mod and all of its fights when he updated - probably without SCS )

That is what I tried to point out, the new SCS 6010 // Better calls for help seems to cause the problem - vault creatures shout for help from their companions but amnish soldiers react to same shout and turn hostile because of the added SCS code.

My de-assigning shout from vault creatures was not meant as proposed solution, just my local workaround. But SCS is still under development and has loads of issues still. (Currently for me it is really EXPERT status, I have to make local changes almost daily for SCS issues)

Edited by Roxanne, 10 October 2015 - 11:17 AM.

[Chevalier]

CREs in the Vault with SHOUT.BCS attached: GOLEMS.CRE, jc_drw01.cre, jc_drw04.cre,jc_drw05.cre, JC_GOL.cre, jc_mag01.cre, JC_THF03.CRE

 

Should all of them be de-shouted?

 

Also, wouldn't this be an issue with SCS's SHOUT.BCS modifications or something? (I think Beleg33 did test out the mod and all of its fights when he updated - probably without SCS )

Hi, is there a version with de-shouted CREs that I can drop into the override folder?

[Lollorian]

They should be in the bwpfixpack's vault/_copy folder

[agb1]

Isn't the problem here that the vault creatures and Amnish soldiers think they should help each other, not the shouts themselves?

[The Imp]

Isn't the problem here that the vault creatures and Amnish soldiers think they should help each other, not the shouts themselves?

It's related. One yells the other answers, would they use other shout commands(aka essentially different scripts in this case) they wouldn't care what the other shouted... at most they would rush in and help the player instead, instead of going hostile on his %&¤#.

Edited by The Imp, 14 January 2016 - 06:40 AM.

[agb1]

But why do they think they are allies? Does the scripting check alignment or neutral vs hostile status? Thinking we should patch them to be smarter about whom they help, instead of disabling the shouts completely.

[The Imp]

But why do they think they are allies? Does the scripting check alignment or neutral vs hostile status?

Well, the creature behaves according to their assigned script.

The going hostile scripts are a bit tricky as the hostile scripts need to recruit the hostile and the neutral to action.

 

The fix is to make the different groups to use different scripts to never get involved with other groups actions. Aka assign the scripts correctly.

Edited by The Imp, 14 January 2016 - 07:33 AM.

[Chevalier]

They should be in the bwpfixpack's vault/_copy folder

Thanks there is only one and I went back to before the first encounter with the thief and played through and everyone still goes hostile.    

[hideyuki]

heya, any back up download source for this mod? found only v5 on web, need v7.. help

 

thanks in advance! :*

[Creepin]

I have found 7.2a, hope it will be of use.

Attached Files

•  Vault_v7.2a.7z   863.26K   217 downloads

[hideyuki]

Thx very much! I need it for Sandrah npc EET seems there is some nice content for it

 

sadly dont have any experience with instaling all mods and BiGWorld seems buggy a bit for me, I mean I cant use it properly so gonna try manual instalation all mods for sandrah :3

[Roxanne]

Thx very much! I need it for Sandrah npc EET seems there is some nice content for it

 

sadly dont have any experience with instaling all mods and BiGWorld seems buggy a bit for me, I mean I cant use it properly so gonna try manual instalation all mods for sandrah :3

Vault is here

http://www.shsforums...attach_id=25651

 

but it is not yet updated for EET (although announced since long),

It is correct that Sandrah has (currently not useable) content with Vault, waiting for Vault to be available for EET,

 

If you install the current version of Vault, it will not work as it will not recognise EET references (especially the BG1 areas and dialogues).

You can install Sandrah without the Vault on EET, I have meanwhile implemented a contingency for some events that were originally linked to Vault (the hunt for the stolen book to enter Candlekeep).

 

PS - The BWS has not been updated since about 4 weeks since its maintainers are lost in planescape.

Edited by Roxanne, 19 April 2017 - 12:10 PM.

[hideyuki]

ah cool, well gonna wait for it to get updated or smt 

 

Maybe instal pre EE BG just to get it work ^^ was to long away from this amazing game

 

anyway off to Sandrah topic on forum, long night to read all stuff  

 

thanks for help!

[Ikki]

I have a patch that was available for a short period (i believe it was done by Kathos not sure)

i only have added uptodate cpmvar library and charsets patching for EET

 

 Vault_v7.2a cross-platform+polish+ee patch+cpmvar.zip   2.31MB   259 downloads

Edited by Ikki, 19 April 2017 - 01:25 PM.

[Roxanne]

Is there a walkthrough of this mod? I cannot find it anywhere, I'm lost after finding Zertran a second time in the Friendly Arm Inn. 

Go to Nashkel. It is written in your journal.

[Creepin]

Is there a walkthrough of this mod? I cannot find it anywhere, I'm lost after finding Zertran a second time in the Friendly Arm Inn. 

I don't remember where that comes from. This is not quide per se, but rather a report of a player in progress, but at least he get further than you

Spoiler

1)Gullykin revisited - (level 7 to 9) You have to kill the ogre mage in the dried up riverbed in the Firewine Ruin map (Khark the ogre). Then when you next go to Gullykin you will be attacked by continuously spawning ogres (at different locations on the map) and ogre mages. When you get tired of whaling on them (I killed more than 400 for target practice heh, heh) find the boss in the ravine on the right side of the map. No reward from the town, just tons and tons of loot and high level spells.

2)Vestibule quest - I think this can be done at any time but is meant for level 9 to 11. Enter the vestibule (building on the side of the Beregost temple) without Edwin in your party. Talk to the two priests there. A big fight ensues, afterward talk to them again, then talk to priest in main temple (you have to stop a great evil). Then you go to the map east of Pelvdale where the red wizards are, talk to them and a big fight ensues. Return to the temple to get your reward from the main priest, and also speak to the priest in the small building again.

3)Return to Nashkel - You finish the Iron Throne building in Baldur's Gate, and talk to Duke Eltan at FF HQ. He gives you the book to go to Candlekeep, and you get transported to the BG Bridge map. Zernan the "scholar of Amn" walks up to you and tries to make a deal for the book. Say no and he will steal it (answer #3 and then answer #2) and ambushes you with his buddies then flees. The chase begins. Goto FAI map, wander over to left middle side of the map. Zernan comes up and talks and ambush number two follows, he flees. Goto Nashkel, he shows up third time with cronies, amush three. Pick up the "undeciphered note", which gives you the clue. Goto Nashkel Fair, on the right side next to the hill (4910x/1845y) there is a mysterious man who comes up and talks. (After several different tries it seems he always goes hostile no matter what answer you give him) Kill him and your journal (not your quest log) should be updated. Goto the Nashkel Mines, a fight ensues outside. Go inside and kill everything - lots of spiders and drow thieves, fighters, and a few mages. Lots of traps that cast poisonous cloud and web. I'm in the middle of it now...

4)Vampire sword quest - Get the idol from the coast and the armor from Firewine Ruins, goto Ulcaster Ruins and have mage make "Vampire's Revenge" sword. Talk with priest in Beregost Temple to start the ball rolling. (Haven't gotten there yet) You have to travel around to speak with knowledgeable people and get more clues. Eventually you figure out the secret location of the vampire hoard and travel there....