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[SaintZenn]

Okay, so apparently there's a trailer for Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2 Apparently, Shepard is going to be killed in action. I'm hoping this is just a hook to draw people in, because I'm going to be pissed if my Ivanna Shepard is dead. Makes me wonder what about Kaiden!? My Kaiden!

[Kaeloree]

Looks pretty authentic... wow, that's pretty crazy. Yep, you can see the original on the Mass Effect website here.

Awesome.

[SConrad]

Wow, great to see some ME2 trailers. And an awesome one on top of that.

If you stop and think about it, it only makes sense to get a new protagonist for ME2. It'd be difficult to conceivably pull off a level 50-60 Shepard fighting low-level enemies, just like it was difficult to create difficult monsters for the Bhaalspawn to kill in ToB.

Looking forward to the next game lots. I loved the first game.

[Kaeloree]

It'll either be a new protagonist, or Shepard has gone undercover so as to better to his/her work.

Personally I'm a bit tired of the whole "the protagonist is dead--wait! Wait, no, there he is!" I think we got enough of that from

Spoiler

the ending of ME1

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[WeeRLegion]

Shepard ain't dead. Shepard's just in a Cerberus lab somewhere, being experimented on and losing his memory. ^^

[Jazhara7]

Shepard ain't dead. Shepard's just in a Cerberus lab somewhere, being experimented on and losing his memory. ^^

Hmmm...am I the only one who got reminded of the start of Baldur's Gate 2 by that...

...though really I also hope Shepard is just in a lab somewhere. Keck, it says Cerberus all over it! She can't be dead!



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[WeeRLegion]

Hmmm...am I the only one who got reminded of the start of Baldur's Gate 2 by that...

Mot at all, not at all. .p

[theacefes]

I'm counting on either Shepard having to regain their memory or the protagonist is another Alliance person looking for Shepard.

Then again, the developers are telling people not to delete their saved games...

[SConrad]

They probably told us not to delete save games because of the ending of the first game. Depending on whether you are paragon or renegade, you make important decisions at the very end that I imagine will have huge consequences for what happens after the game. I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with Shepard.

[Dark-Mage]

They probably told us not to delete save games because of the ending of the first game. Depending on whether you are paragon or renegade, you make important decisions at the very end that I imagine will have huge consequences for what happens after the game. I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with Shepard.

Surely they are just going to pick a 'canon' path though, and write the story from that point of view, rather than writing two seperate stories based on your actions in the first game. So I can't see how our saved games will be used in that fashion.

[WeeRLegion]

Mmmmmmm...
I dunno. Seems like too much of a downer to just kill Sheppy while you aren't looking and tell you to keep the save games just for you to experience the enormous wake of shit and silly side-questing it sends at junior spectres or whatevers.
Also I think the big decisions could easy enough be repeated through some sorta questionnaire ála previous character generation; I don't think there's much value in keeping save-games around if not so that the character build (and not just the decisions) will have some influence on the game.

So, I think we'll be seeing something of Sheppy.
Sure enough, memory loss and the sort is overused and in the least I think they'll put a spin on it, but eh... Just saying that 'Sorry, we killed your pet, start from scratch now, slave', seems a bit... :/


Well, ok so there are some possibilities for keeping even minor details relevant while still offing Sheps, but anything I can come up with seems about as reasonable as imprisonment and memory loss.
And people who try to make money with stories have been known to be wary of downers...

Yeah, I think it's just a poke at the fans, they're just trying to get people fussing about it.

[Dark-Mage]

Suppose there is always the chance that the Geth(?) simply have it wrong on their databanks? They believe Shephard was K.I.A, but he survived the attack?

[Philiposophy]

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the sequel wasn't from Shep's point of view.

The real issue would be with Kaidan and Ashley if it was... they'd basically have to make two versions of the game depending on who you bailed out down on Virmire in the first one.

Thus making it much easier to just start from a new perspective. Shep will almost certainly play some role though - either protagonist, supporting character or plot device (died doing something the new character has to investigate? etc).

Edited by Colonel Aureliano Buendia, 26 February 2009 - 04:19 PM.

[theacefes]

Sure enough, memory loss and the sort is overused

Perhaps but it's still a money maker.

[WeeRLegion]

Sure enough, memory loss and the sort is overused

Perhaps but it's still a money maker.

My point exactly. It's preferrable because it'll let them avoid hurting the fans' feelings as well as entirely skip the problematics that'd come with super-Shepard.

[Zander]

Sure enough, memory loss and the sort is overused

Perhaps but it's still a money maker.

Could be BG II all over again...Import your super level 20 Ranger with heroic stats and watch him come out a nerfed level 6. They also solvedthe problem of which character you could continue quite neatly........

Makes no odds - I'll still buy it

[Jazhara7]

Sure enough, memory loss and the sort is overused

Perhaps but it's still a money maker.

My point exactly. It's preferrable because it'll let them avoid hurting the fans' feelings as well as entirely skip the problematics that'd come with super-Shepard.

Reading "Super-Shepard" just brought back memories of the song my sisters sung (and maybe even came up with themselves? I think so...) when I was small: "Super Clowns".

Let me translate..."Super Clowns! Flying through space saving the Earth, they are the stars! Super Clowns! Flying through space making jokes, they may do that!".


...sorry, my brain is being normal (normal for my brain=weird for a 08/15* human) right now, so it comes up with weird associations...




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*One phrase I wish existed in English. "08/15" means "average, every day, standard" (often in a not so positive sense, though not always, as in this case), or in some cases "outdated material", and refers to the MG 08/15 which was the first weapon used in the entire German military, during the first world war - before that each area was responsible for outfitting their groups of soldiers themselves, which made exchanging replacement parts rather difficult. By the 2 World War they were still used, but the technology was outdated already. Hence the second meaning. For some reason this is one everyday phrase derived from the wars that I kind of like.)

[Tempest]

I'm hoping the thing with not deleting old saves means that our choices in ME1 will actually matter, and not just the big ones near the end-I'm hoping this means Wrex could be alive or dead in the sequels depending on how ME1 went, for example.

[Dark-Mage]

But wouldn't making every single choice, no matter how small, matter in terms of effecting the story of the sequel just result in a crap load of additional work for the game programmers etc? Okies, the small ones not so much, but the big ones like whether or not the human fleet came to the rescue at the end is going to seriously affect the state of the game world.

Personally, I hope that they just pick a 'canon' series of events, preferably the paragon path, and stick to that. Maybe using old saves for minor details like who Shephard was (in terms of gender, history and class) and some of the other less important events.