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#1 Amodeus

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 12:07 PM

Hi all. I have recently discovered the wealth of modifications available for the Baldur's Gate series and have been overwhlemed. I have finally settled on attempting a standard, well... almost unmodified BW installation. Things have been fine thus far, however I am now stuck at the "BG1-Check" section. The install batch file is listing a number of files that I am missing in my BG1 override folder and I am unable to find them on any of the CDs. I will first post a copy of the output, and then a list of steps I have taken so far.

B G 1 - C H E C K
							  =================


	  Now Baldur's Gate will be examined whether it is completely installed.


"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR01.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR02.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR03.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR04.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR05.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR06.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR07.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR08.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR09.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR10.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR11.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR12.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR13.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR14.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR15.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR16.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR17.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\ERROR18.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTRO01.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTRO01F.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTRO02.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTRO02F.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTRO03.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\INTROADD.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\TSCNA01.wav"
"Baldur's Gate\Override\Tscna02.wav"



	  If any files are specified above, please copy them from the Baldur' s
	  Gate CD or DVD into the appropriate directories.
	  If above no files are listed, then Baldur's Gate is complete.


	  Is Baldur's Gate completely installed? Press M



							 co(M)plete . . .

So far I have:
  • Installed Baldur's Gate 1 w/ expansion (using the most complete options available) and patch 5512
  • Installed Baldur's Gate 2 w/ expansion (using the most complete options available) and patch 26498
  • Hit a brick wall because of the install location (not default) and had to uninstall and repartition my drives to make room on "C:" :wacko:
  • Repeated the process for the correct locations, made the appropriate quicksaves and autosaves
  • Backup up both game's folders
  • Downloaded all standard BW mods and tools from the official link list, aside from non-english versions
  • Extracted all mods, including the ones with installers (temporary directory with no DIALOG.TLK)
  • Copied the extracted mod folder, the BW installer, the BW fixpack, and WeiDU 2.09
  • Ran the fixpack until it completed successfully
  • Edited a line in the BW installer to remove a component due to an incompatibility noted here: Post #8
  • Ran the installer (at the generated mod list: all standard mods were identified aside from non-english mods, and some that were standard according to the installer but not the link list... there were also some lines listed only as ".", but I didn't think it was an issue based on the contents of the batch file.)
  • Ran into the error described above
That's about the size of it...


I also had another unrelated question if anyone cares to answer it, though I won't be posting a new thread for it as it is not that important.

I have played SoA pretty extensively, but stopped after leaving the Underdark. I have not played BG1, TotSC, or ToB at all, so my original intentions when deciding to play again, were to get BG1 running on the BG2 engine... until I saw all of the other possibilities. I have never installed a mod. Am I getting in too far over my head? Should I not be installing so many mods? I am under the impression that BiG World works best with all of the recommended mods.

EDIT: I should also note that I don't have the time for multiple playthroughs so I'm hoping to have the best possible experience the first time.

Edited by Amodeus, 27 December 2008 - 12:16 PM.


#2 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 12:26 PM

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    7. Ran the fixpack until it completed successfully
    ...
    9. Ran the installer (at the generated mod list: all standard mods were identified aside from non-english mods, and some that were standard according to the installer but not the link list... there were also some lines listed only as ".", but I didn't think it was an issue based on the contents of the batch file.)

Bad move, as you should have only ran the BWP installer. Don't know if this would alter so the result would cause the bug though.
Now, are you sure the BGI+... installation takes 2.5GB+ space on your hard drive, as that's almost the minimum for full custom install? Same as for BGII...

Should I not be installing so many mods? I am under the impression that BiG World works best with all of the recommended mods.

The answer is yes, definetly, as the mods in the thing make major changes to the over all plot, and the big mods have their own...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 27 December 2008 - 12:29 PM.

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#3 Amodeus

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 12:36 PM

Bad move, as you should have only ran the BWP installer. Don't know if this would alter so the result would cause the bug though.

Well, the instructions in the BW 5.6 PDF say to run the fixpack before the installer... this can be found in the "A. AUTOMATED INSTALLTION" section on page 12. Just to check though, I tried the installation without running the fix first and got the same results. :(

Now, are you sure the BGI+... installation takes 2.5GB+ space on your hard drive, as that's almost the minimum for full custom install? Same as for BGII...

Yeah, the combined file size of my unaltered backup is 5.13GB.

The answer is yes, definitely, as the mods in the thing make major changes to the over all plot, and the big mods have their own...

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I am interpreting this correctly... are you saying that I should continue installing all mods, or would this change the plot so drastically that I'd be missing out on the actualy storyline of BG1?

Thanks for the fast reply, by the way.

EDIT: Just for the record, I am going to attempt continuing the installation anyway... If I have to start over, it's no big deal. I'll post back with results when it finishes.

EDIT 2: Haha... ran out of disk space. I really wish the installation wasn't so dependent on location.

Edited by Amodeus, 27 December 2008 - 01:44 PM.


#4 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 04:09 AM

Bad move, as you should have only ran the BWP installer. Don't know if this would alter so the result would cause the bug though.

Well, the instructions in the BW 5.6 PDF say to run the fixpack before the installer... this can be found in the "A. AUTOMATED INSTALLTION" section on page 12. Just to check though, I tried the installation without running the fix first and got the same results. :(

Well, I would follow these instructions:

Step by Step Instructions
...
For English users: Download and extract the BW Installpack and the BW Fixpack into your BG2 main directory
For German users: Download and extract the BW Installpack, BW Fixpack and BW Textpack into your BG2 main directory
...
Begin the installation
- Disconnect the internet and disable all antivir software/firewalls
- Start the ?BiG World Install v5.6.bat? and follow the on-screen instructions
- Play your megamod.

There is a lot info on the thread, but it never says to actually install the BWP's Fixpack, as the BWP Installpack does it for you, during the installation... this should be partially because you can't actually fix every error without actually installing the other mods first... and thus getting the item descriptions just right.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I am interpreting this correctly...

Well, what I was saying was that you definitely shouldn't install this, if you are time consumed, as the new sub plots take 4 or so play through to solve completely... and even the man plot is altered.

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#5 Leomar

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 04:43 AM

@ Amodeus

Thanks for your great report in the first post. :)

Well, the instructions in the BW 5.6 PDF say to run the fixpack before the installer... this can be found in the "A. AUTOMATED INSTALLTION" section on page 12. Just to check though, I tried the installation without running the fix first and got the same results.

Oh, I see that is not correct in the guide and we'll change that. For a recent "Step by Step" instruction please read the first post of this thread: http://www.shsforums...showtopic=38231
The Install.bat runs the "BW Fixpack" automatically and I've added this in the first post of the given link.

Should I not be installing so many mods? I am under the impression that BiG World works best with all of the recommended mods.

Most mods only adds new content and don't change the main plot drastically. Like Jarno said, it could be altered a little bit. If you don't know BG1, ToSC and ToB it could be to much to do for you, if you installed many mods. You should decide, what you want. :)
For a first try it is everytime better to choose your mods wisely and not to much.

B G 1 - C H E C K
=================

This is well known in our German forum, therefore we have included this check. There exists BG versions on the marked which do not copy all files by a full install. But the files you have listed have nothing to do with different BG versions. We have found out, that you have installed all the files by a full install. But if you install the official BG1:ToSC BioWare Patch, these files wil be removed and we don't know why BioWare do this or is this a wrong side-effect of the patch.

So we have uploaded these files as the BG1 Missing Files for our German version. Normally you can find these files on your BG1:ToSC disc and needs only to copy them to the BG1 override folder. Can you look are these files on your CD/DVD?
If not it would be great if someone can pack these files with a packprogramm and upload them, so we can include these files in the linklist like we have done it for the German files. :)

Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 28 December 2008 - 04:46 AM.

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#6 Amodeus

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:02 AM

Okay, first an update on my current situation: I've managed to install the entire package, ignoring the BG1-Check, thinking that it could possibly have something to do with a different game version or maybe the Textpack, but mainly because I didn't know what else to do at the time and my game directory is backed up anyway. I installed the entire Megamod (not including non-English mods and mods that were considered expert in the PDF and link list, but not the batch file). I installed the fonts Normal.bam and Stonesml.bam from the .\TS\gui\Fonts directory to my override directory. Finally I ran Setup-GUI.exe and installed some soundpacks and portraits. The game played fine, but I haven't yet left Candlekeep.

Well, I would follow these instructions:

Oh, I see that is not correct in the guide and we'll change that. For a recent "Step by Step" instruction please read the first post of this thread: http://www.shsforums...showtopic=38231
The Install.bat runs the "BW Fixpack" automatically and I've added this in the first post of the given link.

Okay, on my next install I will make sure I do not run the fixpack.

Well, what I was saying was that you definitely shouldn't install this, if you are time consumed, as the new sub plots take 4 or so play through to solve completely... and even the man plot is altered.

Most mods only adds new content and don't change the main plot drastically. Like Jarno said, it could be altered a little bit. If you don't know BG1, ToSC and ToB it could be to much to do for you, if you installed many mods. You should decide, what you want. smile.gif
For a first try it is everytime better to choose your mods wisely and not to much.

My original intentions were not to necessarily finish every bit of content, but just to have a large amount of content available to me. The opinion here, and in a few other places, however, seems to be that it might be best to avoid the risks associated with such a large install... so I think I will have to do my research and decide which mods I want, and which I can do without. Would all of the big mods be a good idea though? Like a Big Picture install with some extras?

So we have uploaded these files as the BG1 Missing Files for our German version. Normally you can find these files on your BG1:ToSC disc and needs only to copy them to the BG1 override folder. Can you look are these files on your CD/DVD?
If not it would be great if someone can pack these files with a packprogramm and upload them, so we can include these files in the linklist like we have done it for the German files. smile.gif

I have searched the disc and found no wav files at all, although they could just be packed in a BIF file... I'm not sure, I'm new at this. :P
What I can do, however, is install the game again, backup those files before updating, package them and supply them here. Just give me a minute and I'll see if it will work.

At any rate. I thank you both for all of the help.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:21 PM

Well... I've located the files in my Baldur's Gate installation folder, but they were packaged in biffs. I extracted them, tried to play one (ERROR01.WAV) to make sure it extracted correctly and it, of course, wouldn't play. I found a way to decode it, tried playing again, and... "You must gather your party before venturing forth."... I was smacked in the head with nostalgia. Finally, I packaged them into a 7zip file and attached it here. Hope it will be of some use.

EDIT: A note to those who have this problem and intend to use this file as a fix: I don't know what I am doing. :P This will most likely work, but I would wait to make sure they are the correct files before using them for installation.

EDIT2: As I described earlier, I did manage to install BiG World in it's entirety without these files, but it just dawned on me now that the voiceovers for the intro were missing. So while there were no errors, without these files, your game will be missing sound. I imagine that might be a good thing according to some people in regards to ERROR01.WAV :lol:

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Edited by Amodeus, 28 December 2008 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 10:35 PM

I was waiting for this files
Funny how yesterday i was looking for solution to this ,and found only you having the same problem on the same day
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#9 Sederien

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:39 AM

I also ran into this issue today and have halted my installation until I fix it. Thanks for working on this Amodeus...

One problem on my end, though. While I can play the other WAV files in my BG1 directory, I can't seem to play the ones downloaded from you. Are you using a non-standard codec? If so, can they be redone with a standard codec to be more compatible with multiple systems?

(This issue could just be on my end, but it was the first thing that came to mind.)

EDIT: Attack of the 3AM typos!

Edited by Sederien, 29 December 2008 - 12:40 AM.


#10 Amodeus

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 03:58 AM

Actually I had that issue as well. I described it in my post. They wouldn't play at all until I decoded them. I am currently running the WAVs from the file I posted, however, and while they won't play in any player I throw them at, they work perfectly fine in-game. I verified this by installing without them and playing. There was no audio for the intro and no "You must gather your party before venturing forth." I then installed with them in the BG1 override folder and all audio was present. So...

Long story short, while they won't play normally, they work fine in-game.

#11 Leomar

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 04:44 AM

Would all of the big mods be a good idea though? Like a Big Picture install with some extras?

The big BG1 mods are fine, but if you want to use the big BG2 mods with or without BP you'll need to use the console sometimes. The BG2 mods are not bugfree yet, but we all work together to fix these.



Well... I've located the files in my Baldur's Gate installation folder, but they were packaged in biffs.

At first thanks for your help with these missing BG1 files. :)
I'll post a link to your files in the BWP thread in the first post, so that others can use them.



I wonder why these files are biffed, but the game doesn't use them? We Germans have these files on the ToSC disc in the override folder and during the installation these files are copied to the override folder. It looks like, that for an English version these files exists as bif only...

BGT takes these files for the installation, too, but if these files are missing before, why was this not reported before?

Can someone explain, what's going on here?

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#12 enderandrew

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:33 AM

I ran into the same message of missing files. Given that the official patch removes these files, do we need them? Should we ignore the message that the files are missing or download the attached file in this thread?
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:51 AM

Actually I had that issue as well. I described it in my post. They wouldn't play at all until I decoded them. I am currently running the WAVs from the file I posted, however, and while they won't play in any player I throw them at, they work perfectly fine in-game. I verified this by installing without them and playing. There was no audio for the intro and no "You must gather your party before venturing forth." I then installed with them in the BG1 override folder and all audio was present. So...

Long story short, while they won't play normally, they work fine in-game.


Fair enough. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

enderandrew, I'd say download the file and throw the files into the override folder. I'll know for certain in a few hours.

#14 Amodeus

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:54 PM

I ran into the same message of missing files. Given that the official patch removes these files, do we need them? Should we ignore the message that the files are missing or download the attached file in this thread?


No... as I explained, the game will be missing audio if you install without these files. I know this because I tried it :-P and as Leomar explained, the German version has the same issue. Baldur's Gate 1 vanilla does not appear to need these files, but if you are trying to run BGT, it does.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:32 PM

So... I ran into a few issues with my install when I tried to start a new BGII game, saved, and attempted the post-install so I wasn't able to test the issue. Unfortunately, it seems my computer had some trouble running all downloaded sounds.

(As maddening as it may be, I forgot to write down the error before uninstalling. Sorry, Leomar.)

I'm looking into this as I create a new install (except this time, I'm going to cut out BGT and BG1-related mods entirely, since I only plan to play through BGII).

Edited by Sederien, 29 December 2008 - 10:33 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2009 - 01:58 AM

Hello. Please, could you tell me:
I have 3CD version BG TotSC, officialy pre-patched.
Am I need "BG1 missing files"?

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#17 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 03:30 AM

Hello. Please, could you tell me:
I have 3CD version BG TotSC, officialy pre-patched.
Do I need "BG1 missing files"?

Well, they won't hurt either... And I would recommend to re-patch the game back to v(1.3.)5512, yes, you just download the file, and use it to the "Original Saga" installation, and that's it.

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#18 Leomar

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 10:14 PM

Hello. Please, could you tell me:
I have 3CD version BG TotSC, officialy pre-patched.
Am I need "BG1 missing files"?

If you use the BiG World Setup then you should not bother about those files, because the tool checks if you have these files and if not, then it will be corrected automatically.

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#19 Sai

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 06:08 AM

The four DVD version (4 in 1 boxset) seems to have these files packaged somewhere (but not in any override folder).

I tested the sounds in-game (they were not present in the override folder), and they were there. I'm assuming it's not necessary to include these in the override folder then.

If helpful, I can see where they were put in this release.