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[princesspurpleblob]

Hello. I'm a big BG2 fan and I have never seen a game as good as BG2. That was one of the reasons I haven't been catch up with many rpgs of late. And now my addiction to WoW is wearing off, I am in search for a good single player pc rpg to play. Preferably released after 2000, with good NPC interaction and good interface (not with horrible camera settings like NWN2). If good romance is included, thats a bonus for me. Please do not recommend me action rpg like Diablo. I hate them.

I have played follow rpgs already: BG series, PS:T, Morrowind, Oblivion, IWD series, Diablo series, Arcanum, NWN series. Ehhh I think thats it.

And one more question: I was thinking, maybe I will give a go with either Kotor or Jade Empire. Which one do you think is better one out of two?

[Mike1072]

And one more question: I was thinking, maybe I will give a go with either Kotor or Jade Empire. Which one do you think is better one out of two?

I preferred KotOR as a SW fan, but they were both quite good. They're probably the closest to what you're looking for, too.

[SaintZenn]

Jade Empire is very shallow compared to the other games, half the time I didn't even notice my follower was there. VtM: Bloodlines is a very good rpg, but there's no group to control. It's worth a run though.

[GeN1e]

Well, it's been repeased before 2000, but the Fallout series is a classic in RPG genre.

[Cal Jones]

Someone else in my situation, though at least I have played both of these already. I recommend both. I would say I enjoyed KotOR a bit more - Jade Empire's very pretty, though, and worth a play, but it is short. KotOR is good for at least one play through, though I've managed to go through it a few times, trying different character types and outcomes. In both cases, you have dark and light (or closed fist/open palm) options, so they've got replay value. KotOR II is also worth playing though the ending is very scrappy. I wouldn't be too put off by that, though, it's still a good game despite its flaws.

[Choo Choo]

EDIT: Remind me to read through things before I reply to them.

Well, I second the KotOR suggestion.

Edited by Choo Choo, 16 November 2008 - 11:53 PM.

[Archmage Silver]

Well, I'd recommend starting off with KotOR I and KotOR II: TSL. They offer great storylines and NPCs (especially KotOR I) and considering how cheap you can get them for these days it's a bargain. Romances are available in both games. Also, Team Gizka is working on restoration project for KotOR II: TSL. When finished it will restore much of the content cut by Obsidian Entertainment because of time issues.

Jade Empire is pretty good too, and since it was enhanced for PC it's much better graphically than the original console version. It offers a different perspective on things, a great storyline, and again, there are NPCs with depth. Romance possibilities are in.

Mass Effect offers a new kind of experience in RPGs, throwing in movie elements and great voice acting mixed in with a unique setting. I highly recommend it. Romances are available for both genders as in all the above games. You can also download the mini content expansion Bring Down the Sky for free if you're playing this on a PC.

Lastly, I'm throwing in Wizardry 8 as a suggestion. It's definitely worth playing if you can find it somewhere, which can be a bit difficult since Sir-Tech went bankrupt and the game hasn't been printed in quite a while.

[Eleima]

I'm going to throw in my two cents and recommend the two KotORs and Jade Empire.
You have nice romances in all three games (although I'm mostly familiar with the romance options for females, ie, respectively, Carth Onasi, Atton Rand and Sky... *purrs* ), and the plots are nicely done (if you forgive KotOR 2 its few flaws, which I did eventually, in spite of all my previous ranting against it).
You also asked which one was better out of Jade Empire and KotOR. Well... it's a though question, I think both are very good games and a worth it, it's really a close call. I might like KotOR just a teensy bit more than Jade Empire, but that might be because I like Carth better than Sky...
Seriously, I really liked the Star Wars setting, and the force powers, and having two buddies following you around instead of just one, so those are KotOR's advantages over JE, but... like I said, both are worth it.

[khay]

Bloodlines, definitely. It`s available on Steam as well (for $20 or so) and it`s the best RPG I`ve ever played (after BG2, of course). Make sure you get the unofficial patch if you decide to go with it and have fun!

[Gabrielle]

Bloodlines is the best 3D RPG ever. Just make sure you have the official patch installed.

Both Kotor games are good also.

[princesspurpleblob]

Thanx for all recommendations

I think I will go for Kotor II and see how I like it. If I don't like it then I will go for one of the other games you folks have recommended

[Cal Jones]

Play KotOR I before KotOR II. The second one will make a lot more sense that way. Also bear in mind (as has been said before), KotOR II suffers a lot from cut content. There is a mod in progress to restore that content, but that progress is very slow, and possibly stalled. The romances in KotOR II are part of that cut content - Atton is a great character but it never goes beyond a few flirts and a hint of jealousy at one of the other male characters. If you're expecting more, you'll be disappointed.

Out of the two games, I prefer the first. The second is brilliant in places, but flawed (the final planet and ending in particular), but more than that, I found it depressing. I played it three times but had to put it away in the end as it brought me down too much (which the first game doesn't, at all). Not that I want to put you off, but if you are sensitive to such things, it's something to be aware of. I like them both, and they're both worth playing, but the first is a happier experience.

[Tempest]

Throwing in an outside contender, if you can find Wizardry 8 in a store, it'll keep you occupied for a good long while.

[Anaximander]

KOTOR and Mass Effect are good, although there are certain aspects of Mass Effect that I feel could have been done better or not at all.  

I found Jade Empire enjoyable, but it focuses more on the story and the action than on character development.   There were a couple of characters I liked, but in my opinion most of them are simply not worth speaking to.

I'm going to cast another vote for Bloodlines as well.  That is one of the best games I have ever played.  There are no NPC followers, and no romances per se, but there are a few. . . romantic? encounters.  Bloodlines was just an all around great game.  Good graphics, great characters, interesting story, the most phenomenal voice acting I've ever heard, and very unique gameplay.  The worst thing about the game is that was developed on a beta version of Valve's Source engine, and it was rushed to release by the producers.  The developers then went out of business.  As a result, the game as released was pretty buggy, making player made unofficial patches a must.  If you download the one linked in a previous post, I strongly recommend you install the "basic" version.  The full version changes a lot of things that, quite frankly, were not broken and did not need to be tampered with.  Well, that's my opinion anyway.

[GreyViper]

Another deep and good RPG I can recommend is King Of Dragon Pass. Lots of replay value and no game is the same as the last one.

[joshuar9476]

Another deep and good RPG I can recommend is King Of Dragon Pass. Lots of replay value and no game is the same as the last one.

It's not a popular suggestion, but I love The Temple of Elemental Evil when patched up by the folks at Circle of Eight. It's one of the last turn based games out there, something i wish the infinity engine did better.