I suppose the desire of Ilmater is to shift finally Joneleth`s aligment to those of good (LG, NG or CG). And I son`t have any clue how to do it. I do not see any redemption counter (it`s exixtence was mentioned somewhere on this forum)
Thistime I decided to visit Watcher`s Keep even before fighting with Yaga-Shura. I intend to solve the Deva Quest once again and... I am not sure.. probably I should take the divine spark and give to Irenicus??? To slaughter Deva and Bebilith in order to redeem Joneleth? Moreover, I`m afraid that he may be weakened after Redemption.
How to redeem?
Started by Sergei Lebedeff, Oct 30 2008 12:22 PM
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Sergio
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 04:54 AM
To redeem Irenicus, and to finally change his alignment to True Neutral, you must act well, and don't do evil action.I suppose the desire of Ilmater is to shift finally Joneleth`s aligment to those of good (LG, NG or CG). And I son`t have any clue how to do it. I do not see any redemption counter (it`s exixtence was mentioned somewhere on this forum)
Thistime I decided to visit Watcher`s Keep even before fighting with Yaga-Shura. I intend to solve the Deva Quest once again and... I am not sure.. probably I should take the divine spark and give to Irenicus??? To slaughter Deva and Bebilith in order to redeem Joneleth? Moreover, I`m afraid that he may be weakened after Redemption.
If you take the divine spark for yourself , You do the evilest act you can do.
You must create a new being merging deva and Bebilith.
Also, do the secondary quest like Malla's.... And don't promise to Jon a Bhaalspawn.
Low hung brow, dazed look on your face..... It appears that you are correct, my friend. You are indeed a complete imbecile.
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dorotea
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 09:21 AM
Hello there!
I am sorry I was late to answer the email and this post - but I was very very busy whole week - going through interviews and jumping through various other hoops.
In any case, redeeming Jon is a tricky matter - it was scripted thus on purpose. Several major factors to look at:
Do not forbid him to take a Bhaalspawn soul - allow him any soul of your choice - you have to risk it. He will refuse to take it on his own or not at all. It is in his nature ( I cannot be controlled - remember? ).
Do not tally if you took Malla's quest - either dont take it or complete it before leaving Amkethran. Do not give her father to the lich. Do not keep the soul stone.
Watch your rep! It should never fall below 6.
Do not humiliate or otherwise mock Irenicus, he is a touchy fellow.
Do complete the Deva quest correctly - ie by making a Cambion.
Do not try to be pushy in asking Jonny to forgive Ellessime. Rather trick him into trying to 'punish her' by forgetting about her - he has his pride.
Watch your JonUndecided local variable via CLUA Console - if it turned to 3 - you are in trouble. Same as Romances. Reload and try to watch out for the above factors. If your character is smart, caring and wise - and has none-evil alignment redeeming Jonny is quite possible and the Good epilogue is quite enjoyable.
I am sorry I was late to answer the email and this post - but I was very very busy whole week - going through interviews and jumping through various other hoops.
In any case, redeeming Jon is a tricky matter - it was scripted thus on purpose. Several major factors to look at:
Do not forbid him to take a Bhaalspawn soul - allow him any soul of your choice - you have to risk it. He will refuse to take it on his own or not at all. It is in his nature ( I cannot be controlled - remember? ).
Do not tally if you took Malla's quest - either dont take it or complete it before leaving Amkethran. Do not give her father to the lich. Do not keep the soul stone.
Watch your rep! It should never fall below 6.
Do not humiliate or otherwise mock Irenicus, he is a touchy fellow.
Do complete the Deva quest correctly - ie by making a Cambion.
Do not try to be pushy in asking Jonny to forgive Ellessime. Rather trick him into trying to 'punish her' by forgetting about her - he has his pride.
Watch your JonUndecided local variable via CLUA Console - if it turned to 3 - you are in trouble. Same as Romances. Reload and try to watch out for the above factors. If your character is smart, caring and wise - and has none-evil alignment redeeming Jonny is quite possible and the Good epilogue is quite enjoyable.
Freedom cannot be equated with goodness, virtue, or perfection. Freedom has its own unique self-contained nature; freedom is freedom ? not universal goodness. Any confusion or deliberate equalization of freedom with goodness and excellence is in itself negation of freedom, and acceptance of the path of restraint and enforcement.
Nikolai Berdyaev - Christian Existentialist, Philosopher of Freedom.
The Longer Road mod
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Bitter Grey Ashes
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dorotea
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 09:27 AM
Btw - at some point somebody wanted to start working on russian translation for the LR. I might be willing to help-edit the translation. Now that I got myself a new job I will be busy , but at the same time more relaxed. I feel like jumping back into LR and BGA business. 
Freedom cannot be equated with goodness, virtue, or perfection. Freedom has its own unique self-contained nature; freedom is freedom ? not universal goodness. Any confusion or deliberate equalization of freedom with goodness and excellence is in itself negation of freedom, and acceptance of the path of restraint and enforcement.
Nikolai Berdyaev - Christian Existentialist, Philosopher of Freedom.
The Longer Road mod
Redemption mod
Bitter Grey Ashes
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Sergei Lebedeff
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 01:47 PM
Just give me the text ( I suppose you have a text file with dialogues) and I will start working on it.
