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[Jarno Mikkola]

I have bad news, and some good news.
The bad news first, I am out of lines.
The good news, I am out of lines, -so I need more. I finished the Anomens lines, and yes, they now should reflect on what the Anomens missions outcome is and so...
@Ithilian Delorio

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Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 08 November 2008 - 02:09 AM.

[Thanatos.]

Thanks to Jarno and Shed, my BG2 is up and running. And I have to say, Esiriak is shining! I have a few critisisms.

a) Esiriak's name in his joining dialog says Esirinak somewhere.
b) He isn't suicidal. Maybe he just threw an annoying thief from the railing?
c) His joining dialog is too warm. Needs to be more evil!

[Jarno Mikkola]

a) Ups.
b) Perhaps, or then it could have been other things he was after... PM me more text and I will see what I can do... (about this and everything else.)
c) Suggestions are always welcome, now back to your post and I want the 100 pages by the end of the day, slave.

[Thanatos.]

... d) He can still wield off-hand weapons.

EDIT:

c) Suggestions are always welcome, now back to your post and I want the 100 pages by the end of the day, slave. :whip:

I thought you were an imp, not Drow.

Edited by Ithilian Delorio, 13 November 2008 - 03:03 AM.

[Icendoan]

KY == Keeping Yoshimo, my main mod at the minute. So actually, surprisingly human.

Though a Jelly would be fun. Lack of dialogue definitely is present however.

Icen

[Thanatos.]

A psychic Jelly!

[Sebastian]

Well, I never thought I'd see a Mind Flayer NPC that might actually work. Still, I would like these dillemas worked out before I decide to give it a try.

As some of the people here probably know, mind flayers , Illithids as it were, originated from the Lower Plane of The Great Ring called Limbo. They were the faction of The People, the supposed primordial race (or true race as the Githzerai claim), that turned on their kin and proceeded to waging wars of conquest on all the other "False" Planes. Inherently, they are supposed to be evil, power-hungry arrogant and delusional creatures that see all other races as slaves or fodder.

So, the major question you have to deal with is: What on the Planes happened that actually made him accept servitude, when, in fact, Illithinds would rather be dead before becoming slaves.

So, these would be my questions:

1:What is his Plane of origin?
2: (Not necessary)Was it a plane of Law, of Neutrality or of Chaos? Note: Answering this will shed some light on his attitude and choice of desertion from his people.
3.(Would be nice to know)Was he in any war against any other planar races? If yes, which?
4.(As above)Was any of these races he had the chance to fight against the Githyanki or The People? Note: These are their supposed "kin" and confronting either would have an impact on his disgust towards them or his spite.
5. (This would be pretty good to know)What the Heck is he doing on Toril(The Prime Material Plane)? From what I know, the Illithinds have a campaign going in the underdark, not necessarily Amn's Underdark. The most likely place from which he could have come would be one of the Illithid Headquarters in the Underdark of either Kingdom of Faerun. The question is, which one?
6. (How in the world did he manage to get to Athkatla? And what was he doing in the sewers? Was he part of the expedition in the sewers that <CHARNAME> unwittingly shmucks? If so, why did he go rogue?
7.(Very important) Aside from power-hunger, sadism, arrogance and overall psychosis, do Illithids, or does Esiriak in particular have any other kind of feeling in his emotional repertoire? This is of special interest to me, especially since I don't see why anyone would accept a companion with the emotional range of a broken plank.
8.(Extremely important): Why the heck did he desert? If it was a conflict of power, why didn't he usurp the position of another Illithid? If it was because he was weak, why didn't he commit suicide instead of seeking out a master, something usually out of the realm of possibility for an Illithid to even consider.
9. How was he able to swallow his pride and accept a master?
10. Did he really swallow his pride or is it just an act?
11. Did he really desert or is he part of an Illithid Conspiracy seeking to find out more of their enemies by assuming the mantle of servitude under a god child likely to find out the ins and outs of Toril's military and magical strength?
12. If the above is correct or something similar is going on, does it mean that the Illithid are having problems in their war against their enemy races?
13. Is he on the run?
14. Who is he running away from?
15. Does he have a handicap that made him a liability and his survival instinct is the only thing that keeps him going?
16. Will the master brain take control of him in the Underdark?

EDIT:

17. Does he eat anything besides brains?
18 Does he eat only the brains of sentient races or any kind of brains?
19. Is he allergic to the brain of specific races: which and why?
20. What does he find in <CHARNAME> that he sees as superior to himself?

I'll pause here:P

Sorry if I seem a bit picky but I want an Illithid NPC to be as feasible as possible so that I may find a reason to take him along even though I always play good.

//Sebastian

Edited by Sebastian, 24 November 2008 - 11:37 AM.

[Icendoan]

20. The ability to kill armies single-handedly, forging a path of blood to the throne of the god of murder? And all those cool effects with a pocket plane.

Icen

[Lykainon]

7.(Very important) Aside from power-hunger, sadism, arrogance and overall psychosis, do Illithids, or does Esiriak in particular have any other kind of feeling in his emotional repertoire? This is of special interest to me, especially since I don't see why anyone would accept a companion with the emotional range of a broken plank.

Because said companion could unleash psionic, brain-devouring horror upon your opponents?
(Unless you mean why the player, as opposed to the PC, would choose such a companion. Then I got nothing.)

[Jarno Mikkola]

...

Thanks for the questions, and the interest, I'll keep them in mind, but as this is few loose ideas attached to a mod demo, his origin is yet to be implemented in terms of dialog, but already clear to me... there is even a line in the first conversation that if you see it shall confuse you, as you don't even know what he is.

Spoiler

Let's say that he is not actually a Mind Flayer, as he is in fact a Tanar'ri.

Just step on the mine, please.

20) That would be absolutely nothing, but what drags him towards you is the Bhaal's essence within the charname, or the after marks...

[Icendoan]

Lots of tasty brains!

Icen

[Thanatos.]

1:... The Abyss
2: *cough*
3.The Avariel.
4. *cough*
5. He was banished from the Abyss because... Well, I'll get to that later (when I figure it out).
6. He is in the sewers because he just threw a Cowled Wizard from the railing behind the sea troll, because the wizard detected his presence and decided to investigate.
7. He is a bit of a cross between Viconia and Edwin - a smartass. Besides, what kind of sillyhead would make someone like that?
8. Because he *isn't* a Mind Flayer?
9. To survive. One poor widdle demon against the big wide world? He is smart enough to understand *when* to swallow your pride. (or is he?)
10. He's evil? Whaddyatink.
11.
12. No.
13. Yes.
14. The IF~~THEN block. Other Tanar'ri.
15. No and yes.
16. It will try.
EDIT. Oh noes.
17. Due to the fact he doesn't have a mouth... No.
18. Summon Mountain Bears against some Illithid and find out.
19. Yours
20. Nothing, really. <CHARNAME> is just a meatshield. He does express interest in <CHARNAME>'s pa though.
I'll pause here:P . There is a god!
Sorry if I seem a bit picky but I want an Illithid NPC to be as feasible as possible so that I may find a reason to take him along even though I always play good.
No problem. Just keep in mind he'll probably never be the next Xan.


Hope that answers some of your questions.

Edited by Ithilian Delorio, 24 November 2008 - 07:32 PM.

[Choo Choo]

Just one thing - the railing in the sewers. IIRC, there already is a quest NPC there if you have the Questpack over at PPG installed. It would look very, very weird to have him stand next to a mind flayer (or whatever he is) and not notice. It's just a small suggestion, take note which locations are used by other mods and avoid them.

Edited by Choo Choo, 24 November 2008 - 09:57 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Just one thing - the railing in the sewers. IIRC, there already is a quest NPC there if you have the Questpack over at PPG installed. It would look very, very weird to have him stand next to a mind flayer (or whatever he is) and not notice. It's just a small suggestion, take note which locations are used by other mods and avoid them.

Ahh, well, I think that I'll then have to move Esiriak... I found a place, but now Esiriak won't be at the gutter(severs), and there should be no other characters there... except a city guard, but he doesn't see Esiriak.
I'll PM you on the details, Ithilian Delorio.

[Sebastian]

Hope that answers some of your questions.

Sure does.

I'll keep track of this thread and MIGHT be willing to test it whenever, if ever, you get a beta version together.

//Sebastians

[Thanatos.]

Choo: Understood. Location changed.
Seb: 'ight.

[Thanatos.]

Edit: Banter Spoilers removed.

Edited by Ithilian Delorio, 30 January 2009 - 10:06 PM.

[Lykainon]

Haha, I like Imoen's first banter with him. Ask a demon about mating habits? A strange little child indeed...

[Icendoan]

Remove the stutter, Imoen is usually quite confident.

Icen