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[scient]

I think the issue is caused by Qwinn's banter accelerator conflicting with the engine's own banter code. If this is the case then yes next release will fix it. I located where banter code is handled in engine and can effectively disable it. It will only be disabled if you opt to install Qwinn's banter accelerator. However, Qwinn prob has a better idea of what is causing this then I do.

Edited by scient, 25 October 2008 - 11:22 AM.

[Qwinn]

The next version will change the way banters are done altogether. Principally, it's going to disable the way the original game produced banters (via the engine) altogether, replacing it with my system. No, I was not able to determine what caused the problem, but I do suspect it was the engine banter system that did it (or the way the engine system and my system interacted), and so I'm hoping that it won't be a problem in future versions.

Qwinn

[Alkenphial]

Hello, to whomever I may ask the question at this point. I'm not sure if this is the best place to put this. I don't mean to necrobump an old thread, but I am hoping to find an answer, or perhaps a link to the proper place. I can't seem to find any places where someone has asked this before now.

I am using all of the most recent fixes. PST-Fix 4.11 as well as the most recent versions of PST:T, and PST:UB. It isn't a crash, but some NPC's won't talk to me. Ebb Creakness for example. In the Smoldering Corpse Bar he would talk. Though, when I entered the Carceri Warehouse he refused to talk. Regardless of how many times I left the Warehouse(AR0902) and returned. TNO would only walk up to him in the warehouse and no dialogue would start. I don't think Ebb Creakness has a banter file, but I may be wrong.

I beg pardon if I am posting this where it doesn't belong. I am fairly new to this forum.

[Qwinn]

Creakknees in Carceri has been a continuous problem, really thought I had it sorted in the last version. He's actually kinda buggy even without my mods. Sorry that I responded so late, but if you do see this, some info like what your alignment was and what factions you had joined and left would be helpful in figuring out what combination of events is setting that off - he's got a pretty complex set of conditions for his opening dialogue based on those things and a few other variables. I think the big one is, did you ever join and piss off the anarchists in Sigil, did you piss off the printer by talking lawful such that he throws you out, or did you betray the anarchists even if you didn't join (which my fixpack enables), etc. Thanks in advance.

[Adamaxis]

Hey, thanks Qwinn. I had the stopped-up dialogue problem with Morte - he wouldn't talk to me at all and after I dismissed him from the party, I couldn't talk to him at all - your BANTER.BAF thing fixed it.

[Alkenphial]

Wow, this was about a year ago, I don't remember, but maybe it was that I pissed off the anarchists. I think my guy went neutral good or lawful good. Details are rather foggy. I did run into some errors at the end of the game though that I can remember. My guy glitched into a black screen with the last boss, and once I killed the boss then the game crashed to desktop, it was weird.

[Ward Dragon]

Hello.  First of all I wanted to thank you for making the tweak pack, and for continuing to support it

 

I had a similar problem which was driving me crazy, but after a few hours of searching I found this thread and was able to fix the problem by following the steps in Post #38.  I figured it might be helpful if I gave you the details of what happened in case it helps you to troubleshoot the issue (or in case anyone else is having the same problem and didn't realize that the issue was Grace not being able to speak).

 

I followed the mod installation guide on GOG so I have pstweak_v412 installed, along with pstfixpack_v413, pstub_412, ws_crash_fix, and GhostDog's-PST-UI. 

 

My problem involved Grace not speaking which prevented a critical dialogue scene from playing and made it impossible to continue the game with her in the party.  It's near the end of the game so I'll put it in spoiler tags

 

Spoiler

During the Curst prison area, Annah left the party and I couldn't convince her to come back (I like Grace more and I didn't want to lie XD) so I recruited Vhailor instead to fill her place in the party.

 

At some point after that, I noticed that the party banter did not play when I rested but I didn't think much of it.  I had rested a lot during the game (like during the Modron cube) so I figured I had exhausted all of the party banter even though I didn't hear that much from Vhailor after I got him.

 

When I got to the part where I'm supposed to open the portal to the Fortress of Regrets, there was a game-breaking bug.  I would ask if everyone was ready, Nordom and Vhailor would give their dialogue, and then the button would appear to end the conversation with no way to continue it.

 

By reforming the party and trying different combinations of people, I figured out that the problem was that Grace couldn't speak, so when the conversation got to her lines it just ended, which prevented the portal from opening. 

 

I tried speaking to her normally outside of the portal dialogue and nothing would happen even with reloading the area.  I went back a bunch of saves and discovered that she hadn't been able to speak for at least a few hours of gameplay but I hadn't noticed at the time due to not trying to initiate dialogue with her.  And naturally this meant that if I kicked her out of the party I couldn't invite her back.

 

I was very upset because it looked like the only way I'd be able to progress in the game would be to permanently lose Grace as a party member.

 

That's when I searched and found this thread.  The earlier banter fix did not work, but the file in Post #38 did the trick and I've now gotten past that part of the game without having to leave Grace behind

Edited by Ward Dragon, 18 January 2013 - 04:54 AM.