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[Jarno Mikkola]

Very strange. Everything is fine in DLTCEP and NearInfinity. All the sounds can be played and they are all linked to their proper comments.

I used Near Infinity and found that at least Rivians cre file(TCRIV7.cre and 9.cre), has few "No such index" in the Attribute Sound Values, and if I guess it right, the program repeats the previous once if it bumbs on one of those, and cause one such is the Sound: Selection_Action2(speaking of TCRIV9) it repeats the first one all the time... this might be cause during you created the original cre, you didn't have the same sound files you have now, or something...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 17 June 2008 - 09:52 AM.

[leahnkain]

Some sounds files have been replaced with better recordings. Aleigha's soundset is a good example of this. If people can check if Catharandamus, Aleigha, Rivian, Rilithar and Althon's sounds are all linked and working that would be great. (they all have original soundsets)

[Jarno Mikkola]

Some sounds files have been replaced with better recordings. Aleigha's soundset is a good example of this.

But the old sound files are still there. Just new ones are just re-indexed so the correct files play. Meaning that the mod could use tone up, so it's actually possible to have a little smaller download size.

Some sounds files have been replaced with better recordings. Aleigha's soundset is a good example of this. If people can check if Catharandamus, Aleigha, Rivian, Rilithar and Althon's sounds are all linked and working that would be great. (they all have original soundsets)

Hate to tell this to you, but didn't I just do that. To conclude; Catharandamus, Aleigha and some of Rilithar's sounds start a bit too late(average 0,5s) which kinda distracts a bit. Rivian's sound are fine, but their links need to be remade, and the TCRIV9 has less indexes than TCRIV7, so that's why I got only one of the lines to work... And Althon has two totally empty references, Sound Select Common4 and 5, the Common6 does play by the way.
I got rid of the one line bug with TCRIV9, by adding the correct index to the Sound: Selection_Action2 (85405), now she says all the four lines!
Is there a specific reason why the TCRIVx's are Male (1) 's? So, yes indeed, the cre files need to be updated.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 22 June 2008 - 10:17 AM.

[Sir BillyBob]

Is there a specific reason why the TCRIVx's are Male (1) 's? So, yes indeed, the cre files need to be updated.

This seems to be a field not used in BG2. The CRE files are created as female and further up the CRE file's fields (when looking in NI) you will see it say FEMALE. Not sure why there are two of these fields and why BG2 doesn't update both of them but it isn't an issue in the game that I know of. Just throw a harpy up against her and see if it casts a dominate spell on her.

As for the sound references in the CRE files, we have made numerous changes to some of these CRE files. I have tried to remove all older references to sounds that aren't in use anymore. Apparently some slipped by. Althon never did have enough sounds in this latest recording if I remember right. Also some WAV files have a bit of a lag at the beginning. I have tried to use Audacity to crop the gaps but Cath and a few others it couldn't load their WAV files correctly for me to edit. Not sure if it is the file or Audacity being the problem.

Edited by Sir BillyBob, 20 June 2008 - 10:16 AM.

[Calanen]

Just a couple of minor things....

In the crypt place under the slaver's stronghold, the flame skellies can shoot through the wall. Bit of a surprise. If for example, you go to where they are invisible mode, and then wander back around on the other side of the wall, they will see you when you become uninvisible and fire flame arrows through it.

Also, the dialogue where people tease you about using poison and distance weapons is great, but perhaps should be turned off for mindless enemies like bone golems and some of the other undead.

Also, one other minor thing, spoiler alert:

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Icar, if he turns on you as a traitor, but is far away because i was a muppet and left him around the other side of the complex, after you kill Markessa, he rejoins the party

All in all, just fine tuning..the mod is as I've said before we really great.

[leahnkain]

Strange, Icar should help.

Spoiler

Icar doesn't turn traitor, he will aid the group in killing Kessa, Althon doesn't fight along side Kessa too. Both will help the player kill her.

[Solar's Harper]

Strange, Icar should help.

Spoiler

Icar doesn't turn traitor, he will aid the group in killing Kessa, Althon doesn't fight along side Kessa too. Both will help the player kill her.

Found the problem, Icar will turn hostile and leave the party if Althon isn't there to tell him otherwise.
Below is the code.

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IF ~InParty("TCALTHON") !StateCheck("TCALTHON",CD_STATE_NOTVALID)~ THEN EXTERN ~TCALTHOJ~ NoYouDont
IF ~OR(2) !InParty("TCALTHON") StateCheck("TCALTHON",CD_STATE_NOTVALID)~ THEN DO ~ActionOverride("TCKESSAX",SetGlobal("TCGetReady","LOCALS",1)) LeaveParty() Enemy() Attack(Player1)~ EXIT

Source file: TCKESSA

Edited by Solar's Harper, 22 June 2008 - 02:32 AM.

[leahnkain]

Thanks Solar, this saves Joe a lot of work.

[Sir BillyBob]

Technically, Icar wouldn't know if you killed her or not since you left him far away from the fight.

As for him helping you, originally he would only if Althon is in the party. This has never been changed as far as I know.

[leahnkain]

I totally forgot to change this. If Icar joins the group in Piney Bluff he will not kill her. I will write something ASAP.

[Calanen]

Technically, Icar wouldn't know if you killed her or not since you left him far away from the fight.

As for him helping you, originally he would only if Althon is in the party. This has never been changed as far as I know.

This is true, although he does make his intentions clear by shouting them from the other side of the dungeon! What I was doing was using Shadow to run around at high speed and clear out traps etc in advance. Ran into her, and triggered the dialogue.

Just another, what I think is perhaps a bug...spoiler alert re Suderham

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When you fight a number of Slave Lords under Suderham, there is one that is immortal whose full name escapes me (Slim). No problem with that, but, given he is immortal and we decide to do a runner, every time you leave the area, a new one of Slim appears. We are up to 3 atm...

Edited by Calanen, 24 June 2008 - 02:12 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Just another, what I think is perhaps a bug...spoiler alert re Suderham

Spoiler

When you fight a number of Slave Lords under Suderham, there is one that is immortal whose full name escapes me (Slim). No problem with that, but, given he is immortal and we decide to do a runner, every time you leave the area, a new one of Slim appears. We are up to 3 atm...

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I had two different guys that were immortal, and the'll talk when they are both low on HPs. And the player actually doesn't need to be able to leave the area... so the best solution I can see, would be to prevent it completely.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 24 June 2008 - 03:00 PM.

[Calanen]

Just another, what I think is perhaps a bug...spoiler alert re Suderham

Spoiler

When you fight a number of Slave Lords under Suderham, there is one that is immortal whose full name escapes me (Slim). No problem with that, but, given he is immortal and we decide to do a runner, every time you leave the area, a new one of Slim appears. We are up to 3 atm...

Spoiler

I had two different guys that were immortal, and the'll talk when they are both low on HPs. And the player actually doesn't need to be able to leave the area... so the best solution I can see, would be to prevent it completely.

No that doesnt work....

Spoiler

Stalman Klim is immortal, and if you do a runner, more of him appear. I am up to 3 Stalman Klims. He doesnt talk to you when he gets low on hit points either.

[Jarno Mikkola]

No that doesn't work...

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What about Eanwulf, was he alive? As he and Stalman need to be both almost-dead and everyone else already dead. Could you try to start from the beginning... before you ever entered that room, so there aren't many copies of the men. And try to kill everyone, Eanwulf and Stalman as last, of course.

By the way, who was in your group? That shouldn't matter, but still...

[Calanen]

No that doesn't work...

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What about Eanwulf, was he alive? As he and Stalman need to be both almost-dead and everyone else already dead. Could you try to start from the beginning... before you ever entered that room, so there aren't many copies of the men. And try to kill everyone, Eanwulf and Stalman as last, of course.

By the way, who was in your group? That shouldn't matter, but still...

Hmmm.....

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Eanwolf died, quickly. Stalman Klim sticks around. It took me a huge number of goes to kill them all to begin with! Seems this needs a bit of tweaking. If its meant to be the case that someone breaks into speech at some point, might be better that they just do it like the pirate crew. At the moment, on a number of goes, everybody dies except this Klim character who doesnt speak to you.

As for people - Icar, Rurik, Rivian, Dirbert, Shadow and my own character.

[Jarno Mikkola]

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Then the bug is in

Spoiler

the Eanwulf

char... Are you sure you have only installed only the patched(v26498) game + CA 0.46Full and CA0.46a mods? No fix packs or anything else as the CA is Total Conversion mod, it needs nothing else!

[Calanen]

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Then the bug is in

Spoiler

the Eanwulf

char... Are you sure you have only installed only the patched(v26498) game + CA 0.46Full and CA0.46a mods? No fix packs or anything else as the CA is Total Conversion mod, it needs nothing else!

Pretty sure. I followed all the directions....no fix packs.

[Calanen]

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Then the bug is in

Spoiler

the Eanwulf

char... Are you sure you have only installed only the patched(v26498) game + CA 0.46Full and CA0.46a mods? No fix packs or anything else as the CA is Total Conversion mod, it needs nothing else!

Pretty sure. I followed all the directions....no fix packs.

Please dont perceive this as a criticism. You just may want to have a look at the code for that part of the game, because a few weird things are happening.

[Sir BillyBob]

Please dont perceive this as a criticism. You just may want to have a look at the code for that part of the game, because a few weird things are happening.

Not at all, we really do appreciate your work testing these special areas. Currently I am still clearing out bugs in earlier parts of the game so I haven't gotten this far to duplicate your results.

If you can, please try to just enter this area and talk to Eanwulf. It will allow you to continue onward to the next mod in the game.