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[kovarex]

I would like to announce the resurrection of the well known spell50 mod.

The new version updates spell descriptions of few spells affected by the mod to make the spell descriptions consistent and introduces new component modifying few other spells.

It can be downloaded at
http://www.kovarex.c.../spell50-v10.7z

I will most probably continue in enhancing of this mod later (changing more spells even these from mods, implementing the save penalty for higher levels for spells affected by this mod etc.)

Any suggestions or bug reports are welcomed.

Edited by kovarex, 19 January 2008 - 12:21 PM.

[bigmoshi]

I would like to announce the resurrection of the well known spell50 mod.

The new version updates spell descriptions of few spells affected by the mod to make the spell descriptions consistent and introduces new component modifying few other spells.

It can be downloaded at
http://www.kovarex.c...d/spell50-v8.7z
http://www.kovarex.c.../spell50-v8.zip

I will most probably continue in enhancing of this mod later (changing more spells even these from mods, implementing the save penalty for higher levels for spells affected by this mod etc.)

Any suggestions or bug reports are welcomed.

Hi Kovarex, I thot this was weidu's work? Did ya get permission from him to continue on this project?
Tks for the updates though. See http://weidu.org/spell50.html

[kovarex]

I sent him email, but he didn't answer in a week, so I did it without his permission, he is still as the author of version up to 6 in the readme, anyway I don't see a reason for him to dislike it.

Edited by kovarex, 23 December 2007 - 11:27 AM.

[Azazello]

I'm all for updating legacy mods. As a courtesy, perhaps a post in the mod's forum (or an existing thread)?

[the bigg]

Weimer usually doesn't really have issues when people modernize his stuff. If you want your version to be accepted by © holier-than-thous, your best bet is to contact JCompton at PPG.

[AnnabelleRose]

What the bigg said.

He should know, with his WeiDU updates and all.

As for moving it to a diffrent site, technically this is a ressurection of a mod, and much like the Mana-Based Spell System I uploaded, this site is easy for the aveage person to upload a mod.

So thank you for bringing this onward, kovarex.

[SimDing0]

Guest poster was me.

[AnnabelleRose]

So according to the H.Y.O.M.C. list, Sim just did #5 and #14?

[the bigg]

What the bigg said.

He should know, with his WeiDU updates and all.

This is different. Spell50's README doesn't contain legalese (which IIRC under current copyright law means that no redistribution or alteration is allowed). WeiDU is under the GPL (which is designed to forbid people from removing other people's redistribution/alteration rights).

[bigmoshi]

What the bigg said.

He should know, with his WeiDU updates and all.

This is different. Spell50's README doesn't contain legalese (which IIRC under current copyright law means that no redistribution or alteration is allowed). WeiDU is under the GPL (which is designed to forbid people from removing other people's redistribution/alteration rights).

This looks like pretty important stuff. Until you mentioned it, I didn't even realise the differences.
Not sure if I interpret it right, does this mean that:

(a) Under GPL, we can modify and redistribute software but we need to keep the original distribution notes intact?

(b) Depending on the legalese, we can't even mirror the software, let alone modify it? Is it something like the unauthorised mirror issue in the mega-mod help forum?

Are there specific SHS templates for such stuff? Thanks for any clarifications.

regards

[the bigg]

(a) Under GPL, we can modify and redistribute software but we need to keep the original distribution notes intact?

If you can speak legalese, http://www.gnu.org/l...es/gpl-2.0.html. Otherwise, it is designed to give users the 4 basic freedoms and forbid users from denying other users the 4 freedoms.

(b) Depending on the legalese, we can't even mirror the software, let alone modify it? Is it something like the unauthorised mirror issue in the mega-mod help forum?

Yes, exactly. That is how people who disregard the EULA to BG2 want to enforce their own EULA on you.

Are there specific SHS templates for such stuff? Thanks for any clarifications.

Most mods copy-and-paste this from each other (Berelinde's Fading Promises taken as a random example, not to single her out):

Fading Promises is intended to be enjoyed freely by all players of Baldur's Gate II, and it may be shared between players in its unchanged form. However, this mod may not be sold, published, compiled or redistributed in any form without the consent of its author. Fading Promises is ©2007 Ruth Tannahill.

Fading Promises is not developed, supported, or endorsed by BioWare, Black Isle Studios, Interplay Entertainment Corp., Atari, Wizards of the Coast, or Music Loops. All other trademarks and copyrights are property of their respective owners.

BALDUR'S GATE II: SHADOWS OF AMN Developed and © 2000 BioWare Corp. All Rights Reserved. BALDUR'S GATE II: THRONE OF BHAAL Developed and © 2001 BioWare Corp. All Rights Reserved. Baldur's Gate, Shadows of Amn, Tales of the Sword Coast, Forgotten Realms, the Forgotten Realms logo, Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, the AD&D logo, TSR and the TSR logo, and the Wizards of the Coast logo, are trademarks of the Wizards of the Coast, Inc., a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc., and are used by Interplay Entertainment Corp. under license. All Rights Reserved. BioWare, the BioWare Infinity Engine and the BioWare logo are the trademarks of BioWare Corp. All Rights Reserved. Black Isle Studios and the Black Isle Studios logo are trademarks of Interplay Entertainment Corp. All Rights Reserved. Exclusively licensed and distributed by Interplay Entertainment Corp. All other trademarks and copyrights are property of their respective owners.

Edited by the bigg, 27 December 2007 - 07:25 AM.

[SimDing0]

It's not really remotely important in practice as far as modding is concerned. Personally, I think filling your readme with legal crap makes you look like a bit of a gimp.

[bigmoshi]

Most useful. Thank you the bigg.

[dragonian]

i can`t download the mod frm your site kovarex
it says that this is unknown page...
and right clicking to download it is not working too then it says that archive is corrupted

[AnnabelleRose]

It's not really remotely important in practice as far as modding is concerned. Personally, I think filling your readme with legal crap makes you look like a bit of a gimp.

Poetry.

[WizWom]

No, Poetry would be:

All of the modders are breaking the rules,
thinking that developers all were tools,
so when they distribute their mischevious work,
adding disclaimers proves they're a dork.

[Ascension64]

Nice poem. But work and dork don't rhyme!

[the bigg]

Nice poem. But work and dork don't rhyme!

With a comment like this, you need more of the former and less of the latter

[jcompton]

I hate to break up this really witty exchange, but yes, I am the person you should talk to if you're looking to have anything updated on WeiDU.org. (You're welcome to e-mail Wes first, of course, but you will probably never hear from him. I've been known to ignore people as well, but not for quite as long.)