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#1 Kulyok

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 10:30 PM

I don't want to download anything I don't want my daughter to see-I had to avoid downloading Tsujatha and Romantic Encounters, among other mods, for this reason.


All 'adult' components of Romantic Encounters are marked with "adult content", both during the installation process and in the mod's readme. Others(the majority, actually) are suitable for teens.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 11:01 PM

I don't want to download anything I don't want my daughter to see-I had to avoid downloading Tsujatha and Romantic Encounters, among other mods, for this reason.


Just out of curiosity, how old is your daughter?

Edited by Azkyroth, 02 October 2007 - 11:06 PM.

"Tyranny is a quiet thing at first, a prim and proper lady pursing her lips and shaking her head disapprovingly, asking, well what were you doing (wearing that dress, walking home at that hour, expressing those inappropriate thoughts) anyway? It's subtle and insidious, disguised as reasonable precautions which become more and more oppressive over time, until our lives are defined by the things we must avoid. She's easy enough to agree with, after all, she's only trying to help -- and yet she's one of the most dangerous influences we face, because if she prevails, it puts the raping, robbing, axe-wielding madmen of the world in complete control. Eventually they'll barely need to wield a thing, all they'll have to do is leer menacingly and we fall all over ourselves trying to placate them." -godlizard


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Posted 03 October 2007 - 09:58 AM

Incidentally, BG2 is rated TEEN, which means "have content suitable for persons ages 13 and older". That is, it isn't recommended for 12-year-olds at all.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 10:12 AM

Incidentally, BG2 is rated TEEN, which means "have content suitable for persons ages 13 and older". That is, it isn't recommended for 12-year-olds at all.

But Kulyok, think of THE KIDS! :throwsup:

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#5 Azkyroth

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 03:33 PM

My daughter is 12, thank you very much.


Then if she's reasonably intelligent and mature, by the standards of 12 year olds, she should have no trouble handling the content she's likely to be exposed to in the mod as Tempest has described it. She certainly is not liable to be "harmed" by it, and in fact based on my experience as a 12 year old, this goes for pretty much any mod that's likely to be available for download from a general access site.

And I have one other question: is Darian a Gary Stu? With most of the Bioware characters, it's easy to point out their flaws, but some mod characters, like Kelsey, Tsujatha, and Chloe, have absolutely no real character flaws or unpleasant personality traits, and I'd hate to see another good character fall into that trap.


This is a fair question, but it seems kind of pointless to ask, at least directly. Is there any author on the planet who didn't set out to write a Stu, who would, while in the process of writing that character, admit that the character was such? (I mean, I can see someone realizing it after the fact and admitting it sheepishly years later, but...) O.o

I'm looking forward to an overprotective character. As you may have gathered, I'm hyperprotective of my daughter. I know it's sometimes a flaw, but it's the way I am. :)


I had gathered. Speaking as a parent myself, I feel I have to point out to you that you'll be doing much better by her by ensuring that she is allowed to encounter these things naturally in the course of growing up, and ensuring that you are on hand to provide explanation, context, and guidance for the various aspects of life she's presently trying to understand, form an opinion about, and assimilate into her worldview. Otherwise, the ugly side of the real world is likely to fall on her like a ton of bricks in slow motion once she leaves home and finds herself facing it for the first time, and you won't have the same chance to help her then.

Edited by Azkyroth, 03 October 2007 - 03:39 PM.

"Tyranny is a quiet thing at first, a prim and proper lady pursing her lips and shaking her head disapprovingly, asking, well what were you doing (wearing that dress, walking home at that hour, expressing those inappropriate thoughts) anyway? It's subtle and insidious, disguised as reasonable precautions which become more and more oppressive over time, until our lives are defined by the things we must avoid. She's easy enough to agree with, after all, she's only trying to help -- and yet she's one of the most dangerous influences we face, because if she prevails, it puts the raping, robbing, axe-wielding madmen of the world in complete control. Eventually they'll barely need to wield a thing, all they'll have to do is leer menacingly and we fall all over ourselves trying to placate them." -godlizard


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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:31 AM

I yet have to find a mod for BG2 which is not suitable for children. Today, any normal 12 year old knows (or should know) what sex is about, both negative and positive sides. I can't see why anyone would have to worry about Romantic Encounters harming their kids. Seriously. :rolleyes:

The only thing I wouldn't want my child to see is bad writing. Typos, false grammar or plot holes are much more harmful than a pair of uncovered nipples. :)

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:51 AM

I yet have to find a mod for BG2 which is not suitable for children. Today, any normal 12 year old knows (or should know) what sex is about, both negative and positive sides. I can't see why anyone would have to worry about Romantic Encounters harming their kids. Seriously.   :rolleyes:

The only thing I wouldn't want my child to see is bad writing. Typos, false grammar or plot holes are much more harmful than a pair of uncovered nipples. :)

But it doesn't mean that you would allow your 12 year old child watch erotic (or worse - pornographic) films with you or allow them to freely use all those xxx sites on the Internet. The same with some mods - they describe scenes that are not suitable for a child - his/her mind.

I am paranoic about those things perhaps but there is a reason why we are considered an adult at the age of 18 (or 21 in some cases).
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 09:38 AM

There is a difference between plain written text and pics/films. Also, I haven't seen any mods so far that are pornographic or in any way harmful to anybody. There are some encounters in RE that make me blush, but they are not harmful.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 09:53 AM

Although perhaps it might not be best to run those encounters as a family multi-player...

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 10:16 AM

There is a difference between plain written text and pics/films. Also, I haven't seen any mods so far that are pornographic or in any way harmful to anybody. There are some encounters in RE that make me blush, but they are not harmful.

Never romanced Kiara or played Circle/Square/Triangle/Octagon huh?

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 12:17 PM

There is a difference between plain written text and pics/films. Also, I haven't seen any mods so far that are pornographic or in any way harmful to anybody. There are some encounters in RE that make me blush, but they are not harmful.

Never romanced Kiara or played Circle/Square/Triangle/Octagon huh?

I sure did. I didn't feel offended, neither by the original circle nor your versions of it. Sorry. :)
I was rather offended by Kiara, not by the content, but by the bugs.

Edited by EvaineDian, 04 October 2007 - 12:17 PM.