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[Strontium Dog]

Hello,

In my last mega-mod-install attempt, I experienced a major slowdown in Chateau Irenicus - where my characters seem to teleport to vaqriosu places rather than walk to them (though in the previous CandleKeep portion of the CTB mod I experienced no stutter at all. I've now checked previous posts and it might have been due to my installing the "make werewolf paws not dispellable" component - since this feature is, anyway, de facto, eliminated by the Rebalanced Shapeshifter component of BG2Tweaks, this isn't necessary, anyway, so I've decided to do a fresh mega-mod install all over again, without Bg2Fixpack's "Non-Dispellable Paws" component.

What I'm basically interested in is any solutions to solving this slowdown problem, in the high likelihood that the above component wasn't the only reason for the slowdown. I've read in a couple of posts that not including bags of holding in the inventory might work(the game's a real nuisance without these bags, but I'll see if that works. I presume that, like with the slowdowns in Tutu, the ambient volume should also be set to zero, and, while it's never worked for me before, maybe lowering the overall settings(ie no footstep sounds, poorer graphics etc.) might sort things out, too. Anyone have any other solutions, based on playing through previous mega-mod BG2 games?

Edited by Strontium Dog, 09 July 2007 - 04:10 AM.

[berelinde]

The solution to this problem has been elusive, to say the least.

Some users have reported slowdowns while using mods that add substantial script to baldur.bcs, like Improved Anvil. Essentially, any mod that continuously checks for items or spells runs the risk of slowdown. And not all of these cases are obvious. Saerileth continuously checks for both unholy and holy items in her inventory, so that's the equivalent of using a bottomless bag. Gradual drow item disintegration of BG2 Tweaks and avatar morphing script also add a bit.

Sometimes, it isn't one single thing that causes the problem, but a wide array of things.

[Azazello]

...Anyone have any other solutions, based on playing through previous mega-mod BG2 games?

No.

[Hoppy]

Hey Strontium, can you post your weidu-log? No way to tell since there are so many combos for the mega-install. It is known that you have CTB installed and I have not tnstalled it yet. Search the forums for slowdown/performance topics. Sometimes it could be NPC, item or spell related. Do you experience the slowdown in battle or just the ambient area (ie. exploring) or both? Sometimes it could be a stutter bug. Do some searches for your mods and even NPC's you have at that time. Also do a search on the AR0600 or 0602.bcs I believe seeing some posts and/or fixes on that. I have solved a lot of my slowdowns, stutters and CTD's from messing around with editors SK, NI and IE.
Good Luck and let know what you discover!
Hoppy

[Strontium Dog]

Hey Strontium, can you post your weidu-log? No way to tell since there are so many combos for the mega-install. It is known that you have CTB installed and I have not tnstalled it yet. Search the forums for slowdown/performance topics. Sometimes it could be NPC, item or spell related. Do you experience the slowdown in battle or just the ambient area (ie. exploring) or both? Sometimes it could be a stutter bug. Do some searches for your mods and even NPC's you have at that time. Also do a search on the AR0600 or 0602.bcs I believe seeing some posts and/or fixes on that. I have solved a lot of my slowdowns, stutters and CTD's from messing around with editors SK, NI and IE.
Good Luck and let know what you discover!
Hoppy

Where can I find these SK, NI and IE editors? Are they easy for non-programmers to use(ie like ShadowKeeper etc.)

Here is my WEIDU log-file(please give me some idea of where I might have gone wrong, in your opinion(ie too many Item-adding mods/too many NPC mods or specific mods whichoften cause trouble - I was pretty careful to avoid those mods which are said to cause a great deal of trouble such as the "Improved Anvil" mod etc. About the only mod that can cause difficulty in my install(at least, that I know of) is the Refinements Mod, but that's easily solved by copying 2 files from the Darkest Day folder):-

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Super Happy Fun Lucky Modder Pack
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!)
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #108 // Remove Second Attribute Bonus for Evil Path in Wrath Hell Trial
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes
~SETUP-ROT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Region Of Terror, v2.1
~SETUP-ROT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Region Of Terror Kit Pack
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Over Soubar, v1.12
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Remorhaz walking speed adjustment (for ENGLISH version .EXE ONLY!!!)
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Darkest Day, v1.12
~SETUP-TS-BP.TP2~ #0 #0 // TORTURED SOULS v6.10 (BP Compatible Version)
~SETUP-CTB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Check The Bodies, v1.9
~SETUP-CTB-CHORES.TP2~ #0 #0 // Candlekeep Chores, v2.1
~SETUP-CTB_FF.TP2~ #0 #0 // Check the Bodies Fast Forward, v1.1 (for CtB v1.8 or later)
~TIAX/SETUP-TIAX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tiax NPC MOD for Baldur's Gate II, v1
~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Solaufein Romance for Baldur's Gate II (SoA & ToB)
~IMOEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // 'Imoen Romance Add-on Mod BG2:SoA(ToB required!)v1.201'
~SETUP-KIDO.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kido the Jester (Requires Throne of Bhaal)
~SETUP-KIDO.TP2~ #0 #3 // Which of Kido's portraits do you wish to install? -> Kido's old portraits (of version 1.0 till 2.1)?
~SETUP-TSUJATHA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tsujatha v9 (BG2:SoA NPC) created by Sillara of the Tamari
~MTP/SETUP-MTP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Mazzy the Paladin
~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Valen
~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #10 // Give More Creatures Protection From Level Drain & Undead
~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kivan of Shilmista
~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #1 // Select Deheriana's Class -> Mage/Fighter/Cleric
~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #6 // Select Kivan's Portrait -> Install Herd's Alternative Portrait for Kivan.
~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install ToB Portion of the Mod
~SETUP-SDIM6.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shed's Iron Modder 6 entry
~AZURE/AZURE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Nature's Ally Druid kit(Required for NPC Azure)
~SETUP-FOXMONSTER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Moddie, "the fox monster in your backpack"
~SETUP-TASHIA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tashia NPC Mod -> Full version (ToB required)
~SETUP-TASHIA.TP2~ #0 #2 // Tashia Add-on Pack by Bri and Lord Ernie (English only, Tashia ToB Required) -> Action Style dialogues
~SETUP-TASHIA.TP2~ #0 #5 // Alternate portrait for Tashia. -> Tashia's Alternate Portrait 2.
~XAN/SETUP-XAN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Xan NPC MOD for Baldur's Gate II, v4
~XAN/SETUP-XAN.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install alternate class for Xan? -> Change Xan's class to Fighter/Mage
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Shadows of Amn
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install SOA Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Throne of Bhaal
~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install TOB Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #8 // Viconia Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #9 // Viconia/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Viconia Flirt Pack for TOB
~CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn
~CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2~ #0 #1 // Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-AMDK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Auramaster druid kit
~SETUP-GREYA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Wizard Slayer
~SETUP-GREYA.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved BeastMaster Mod
~SETUP-GREYA.TP2~ #0 #4 // Entangle
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #29 // Improved Specialist Mage Descriptions
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // NPC Kit Pack
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Add Red Wizard to Edwin's Kit Description
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #28 // Give Sarevok a Proper Deathbringer Kit
~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Cernd
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #1 // Monk Remix
~SWORD_AND_FIST/SETUP-SWORD_AND_FIST.TP2~ #0 #33 // Install Blackguard fighter kit
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #1 // Blade Master Kit, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #2 // Death Knight Kit, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wushi Ninja Kit, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #4 // Creslyn's BG2 Item Pack
~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #6 // Arcane Fist, by Drizzt1180
~SETUP-BOM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Boards of Magick item pack!
~SETUP-EXNEM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Exnem Vault v5, Install Items
~SETUP-EXNEM.TP2~ #0 #1 // Add items to creatures
~SETUP-EXNEM.TP2~ #0 #2 // Add items to areas (affects SOA areas only - not BGT, TDD, CtB, etc. areas)
~SETUP-UNDERREP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Underrepresented Items From Icewind Dale 2
~ABYSTORE/ABYSTORE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Unusual Oddities Shop
~SETUP-DOS25.TP2~ #0 #0 // Desecration of Souls 2.5
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades
~SETUP-TZSHOP01.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Magnificient Magic Shop
~SETUP-SELUNEARMOURY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Selune's Armoury v1
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Additional merchant with new items
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #1 // Interjections
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #2 // Tomes and manuals
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #3 // Cloak of Balduran
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #4 // Additional portraits
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #5 // Lost item descriptions
~SETUP-EBG2.TP2~ #0 #6 // Dragonsuit & Glory of Balduran (ToB)
~ADPACK/SETUP-ADPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shared files (required)
~ADPACK/SETUP-ADPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Divine spells lvl 1-8
~ADPACK/SETUP-ADPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Arcane spells lvl 1-10
~ADPACK/SETUP-ADPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // New dimension door animation
~WILDMAGE/SETUP-WILDMAGE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Wild Mage Additions: New Wild Magic Spells
~WILDMAGE/SETUP-WILDMAGE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Misc spell modifications
~SETUP-SCRIPTABLE_SPELLS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Scriptable Spells v1.4
~SETUP-THEFOUR.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Four
~SETUP-THEFOUR.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tweakpack <Strongly recommended, unless you plan to install Improved Anvil>
~SETUP-HIVEMASTER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Hivemaster
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Trueclass Ranger Alignment Revisions
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Fallen Ranger Revision -> Rename To Dark Ranger
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Revised Item Pricing In Stores
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Natural Selection: Darkfriend Druid Kit
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #8 // Natural Selection: Druid Revisions
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Cleric Revision: Good-Aligned Clerics Fall At Low Reputations
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #10 // Revised Amnian Guardsmen
~SETUP-MORROWGATE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Better Business: Kalah
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Darkfriend (Compatible w/New Druid Weapon Proficiencies)
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #2 // New Druid Alignment Options: Neutral Good & Evil
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #3 // New Druid Proficiencies: Longbow, Shortbow, & Two Handed
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #4 // New Druid Starting Proficiency: Two Handed (1)
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #5 // New Druid Spells: Restoration Spells & Improved Charms
~SETUP-NATURALSELECTION.TP2~ #0 #6 // Nature's Blessing (+2 Wisdom) @ Lv27
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Required Files (modified spell graphics)
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Entropy Shield
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Alicorn Lance
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Static Charge
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Thorn Spray
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Prayer
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Elysium's Tears
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Sunscorch
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // Beast Claw
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // Magical Stone
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Sanctuary
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Guardian Angel
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Recitation
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Invisibility Purge
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Spiritual Hammer
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #20 // Miscast Magic
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #21 // Whirlwind
~SETUP-SPELLPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Storm Shell
~SETUP-WTUE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Mod- Adora al Ojo Ciego
~SETUP-SPELL50.TP2~ #0 #0 // Extend Many Spells to 50th Level
~CLK20FIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Cloak of the shield upgrade
~SETUP-AZENMOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Azengaard Tactical Encounter MOD v2.0 (ToB)
~BW_HERBS_BG2/SETUP-BW_HERBS_BG2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Herbs and Potions Add-in for BG2 by Baronius, v1.0.3
~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dark Ritual
~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Cult of the Unseeing Eye
~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Harper Fight
~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #3 // CoM Store 1
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Victor's Improved Races
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Victor's Wizards Know Better(have more Lore)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #3 // Lich Slayer Scimitar
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #4 // The Djin Merchant
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #5 // Burning Man kit for BG2(by Victor)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #6 // Romance Friendly Imprisonment(by Galactygon)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #7 // Lydia's scroll
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #9 // Victor's Special Encounters
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #10 // Improved Bard Song
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #11 // Improved Irenicus Dungeon(Not as difficult as Improved Ilyich)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #12 // Grandpa's Shield quest
~SETUP-MORTIS_V23.TP2~ #0 #0 // Mortis_V2.3
~TOD/SETUP-TOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tower Of Deception Mod (Requires Throne Of Bhaal)
~TOD/SETUP-TOD.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Astral Shard Guardian
~SETUP-TURNIPGOLEM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Turnip Golem Encounter
~SETUP-1RING.TP2~ #0 #0 // The One Ring itself
~SETUP-SNAKES.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Slithering Menace (for BGII:ToB only)
~SDMODS/SDMODS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shed's Mods
~SETUP-BG2SOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Add Items from Baldurs Gate to SoA
~SETUP-MONKTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Wisdom bonus to AC for monks
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Install Longhaired Female Elven Mage Avatars
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install Female Cleric and Druid Avatars
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Install Male Half-Orc Paperdoll
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Longhaired Female Human Fighter Avatars in Full Plate Armor
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Install Male Human Barbarian Avatars
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install Ninja Avatars (replaces Male Monk)
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #8 // Install Ninja Avatars (replaces Female Monk)
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #9 // Install Female Human Rogue Avatars
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Install Male Vampire Avatars
~MOINESSEAVATARS/MOINESSEAVATARS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Install Female Vampire Avatars
~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Asylum Mod for BG2:ToB
~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #1 // Spellhold Lich
~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Player Scripts
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ruad Ro'fhessa (SoA)
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #1 // Ruad Ro'fhessa (ToB)
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #0 // Modified STATS.IDS (see NOTE and WARNING)
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Drizzt
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Mencar Pebblecrusher
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Mad Cleric
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved House Jae'llat
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Lord Roenall
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Master Brain
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Wraith Sarevok
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Cohrvale, Bregg & Alamas
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Firkraag
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #10 // Improved Fire Giants (requires ToB)
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #11 // Improved Shade Lord
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #12 // Improved Trademeet Crypt
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #14 // Improved Temple Sewers Party
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #15 // Improved Kiser Jhaeri (requires ToB) (*** Under construction ***)
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #16 // Improved Falahar
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #17 // Improved Drow Pit Fights
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #18 // Improved Chromatic Demon
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #19 // Knights of Dark Renown
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #21 // Blademaster Kit
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #22 // Demon Knight Kit
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Dungeon
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #20 // Arcane Avenger Kit
~G3ANNIVERSARY/SETUP-G3ANNIVERSARY.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Gibberlings Three Anniversary Mod
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #4 // Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #5 // Chosen of Cyric encounter
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #6 // Shadow Thief improvements
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (ToB Required)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Altered Spells
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes
~TB#QUEST/TB#QUEST.TP2~ #0 #2 // A large battle
~TB#QUEST/TB#QUEST.TP2~ #0 #3 // Underdark Mage Duel
~SETUP-VALHORN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Horns of Valhalla v1.2
~SETUP-CELESTIALS.TP2~ #0 #0 // PnP Celestials
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Redemption 1.2.0 requires BG2:ToB:Ascension v1.4.xx
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #1 // New Portrait for Irenicus - for the Ascension/Redemption part only (from the 'Jon with blue flame' poster by Bio)
~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension: Turnabout
~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Balthazar Epilogue Portrait, by Cliffette
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // General AI Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature & Area Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Creature & Area Improvements -> Boss Improvements Only
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Infernal Thievery
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Revised High Level Abilities
~SETUP-VIRTUE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Virtue
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Goodberries
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Reintroduce Dimension Door
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tweaked Weapon Enchantments
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Additional Racial Enemies
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Summonning Cap Removal
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #7 // PnP Celestial Fury
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Visual Ioun Stones
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #13 // Kensai Ryu's Restored Drow Innate Abilities
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Sensible Lore Table
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Improved Backstabbing
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #21 // BG1-Style Summoning Spells
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sensible weapon restrictions for MODS
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Throwing Spears
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Sensible weapon restrictions for SoA (non-mod weapons)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Sensible weapon restrictions for ToB (non-mod weapons)
~P5TWEAKS/P5TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Drop items on frozen death
~P5TWEAKS/P5TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Drop items on Disintegrate
~P5TWEAKS/P5TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Drop items on Imprisonment
~P5TWEAKS/P5TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Restore SoA background music for Promenade cutscene
~P5TWEAKS/P5TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Increased spear range & damage -> Update default descriptions
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Remove Helmet Animations
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #50 // Avatar Morphing Script
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #70 // Icewind Dale Casting Graphics (Andyr)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Commoners Use Drab Colors
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1030 // Reveal Wilderness Areas Before Chapter Six
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1040 // Improved Athkatlan City Guard
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1050 // Gradual Drow Item Disintegration
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Kick-out Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash) -> No Restrictions (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1170 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1180 // Female Edwina
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2110 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2130 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor' Component
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2150 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> P&P Restrictions
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2192 // Limit Ability of Storekeepers to Identify Items -> Hybrid of Both Methods
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2300 // Triple-Class HLA Tables
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3010 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For All Creatures in Game
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3050 // Remove fatigue from restoration spells
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3073 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Reputation Has No Effect, Stores Price Fixed at 60% (Luiz)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3120 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not fight or complain about reputation) -> NPCs are never angry about reputation
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring and Spell-Trap Animation
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3160 // Keep Drizzt's Loot, Disable Malchor Harpell
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3182 // Romance Cheats -> No Gender/Racial Requirements for Romance, Allow Multiple Romances, Nothing Kills Romances
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3200 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4100 // Change Korgan to Neutral Evil
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Ritual (requires ToB)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved TorGal and De'Arnisse Keep
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Sahuagin City
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Bodhi
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Irenicus
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Guarded Compound in the Temple District
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #8 // "Kuroisan", the Acid Kensai
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #9 // "Red Badge" Poison-Based Encounter
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mae'Var
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #12 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Demon Knights
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #13 // Kensai Ryu's Tougher Kangaxx and Guardians
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #19 // Improved Undead
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Improved Golems
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #21 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mind Flayers
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #22 // Smarter Dragons in SoA
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #23 // Smarter Beholders
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #24 // Kensai Ryu's Smarter Vampires
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #25 // Slightly Smarter Mages and Liches
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #27 // Anti-Paladin Kit
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #31 // Mike Barnes' Improved Small Teeth Pass
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #32 // Mike Barnes' Improved North Forest
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #33 // Mike Barnes' Marching Mountains
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #34 // Slightly Tougher Demons
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #35 // Tougher Druid Grove
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #36 // Tougher Fire Giants
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #37 // Streamlined Trolls
~SETUP-FIRKRAAG.TP2~ #0 #0 // Super Firkraag Mod for BG2
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #2 // Transfer Yoshimo's XP to either Imoen or the Party
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #3 // Solo With a Party AI Script
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #4 // Primary Nerfs - Reducing Overpowered Items
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #5 // Secondary Reductions - Instant Kill Reductions
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #6 // Periphery Tweaks - Less Noteable Items
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #7 // Remove Alignment Restrictions for all Items (Patch)
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #23 // Item STR Stat Bonuses - Set to Inc (Patch)
~SETUP-Z#MISC.TP2~ #0 #24 // Item Stat Bonuses (less STR) - Set to Inc (Patch)
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Revised worldmap for the Baldur's Gate v6.6 - including coloured Baldur's Gate map icons -> Installing new Worldmap for use with Mega Modification...
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #3 // Travel Times and Area Visibility -> Revised Area Visibility and Travel Times for BG1 & SoA/TOB+BP Family Mods
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #5 // Worldmap size: Choose the size of the worldmap -> Huge Worldmap 8000x4600
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #6 // Worldmap for Throne of Bhall -> Use new worldmap for Throne of Bhaal as well
~SETUP-FR_ROV.TP2~ #0 #0 // Freedom's Reign (SoA or ToB)
~SETUP-FR_ROV.TP2~ #0 #1 // Reign of Virtue (ToB)
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kensai Ryu's Deeper Shadows of Amn v2.1
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #1 // Difficult Brown Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #4 // Ghost Shadow Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #6 // Grothgar the Red Dragon
~SETUP-DSOA.TP2~ #0 #8 // Curse of the Underground Shade Lord

[Hoppy]

Sorry about the abbreviations. SK is ShadowKeeper (which it seems you have) is your save game editor
IE=Infinity Explorer is an Infinity Engine browser which can open and edit files IE=Infinity Explorer is an application to open and edit files in your BG game (dlg,bcs,tis, etc) so that you can see what is going on, KINDA COOL to look at especially looking for dialog triggers and such. They are all good to have and play around with, especially for mod creation.
here are the links to those for anyone:
Shadowkeeper
NearInfinity
InfinityExplorer
Anyway looking at your wiedu, which I must say must have been time consuming . I assume no problems with installs. Well, I haven't played this combo as there are a lot of components I am not sure of. Here are the ones that may cause slowdowns
~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Dungeon (What dungeon--Irenicus?)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #11 // Improved Irenicus Dungeon(Not as difficult as Improved Ilyich)
Slow performance can be caused by "conflicting" mods, too.
The tactics mod I have not installed but I have BP instead and I followed the same path as you with DSOA and not duplicating some of those components. So it can't be there.
What version of FR-ROV? have you installed?

Check this out I am sure you have but you may try the alternate 0602bcs by erebusant
Install List and in game lag fix by erebusant
Stick with it because I get sick of reinstalling over and over because of a problem, albeit, a minor one where as I could just take a file out or replace one to keep playing the game. You have done the research on compatibility but that never means the play is smooth.

Hey at least it isn't CTDing on you
No jinx intended
Hoppy

Edited by Hoppy, 09 July 2007 - 06:56 PM.

[Chevalier]

I would get rid of

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1050 // Gradual Drow Item Disintegration

[Hoppy]

Strontium, do you have drow gear coming back to Chateau Irenicus?

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1050 // Gradual Drow Item Disintegration

I haven't tried CTB yet. I know in past installations with that tweak the game slowed down a little after Underdark when I had drow stuff. Maybe it is the whole tweak itself??
Hoppy

Edited by Hoppy, 09 July 2007 - 06:50 PM.

[aVENGER]

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #4 // Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #5 // Chosen of Cyric encounter
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #6 // Shadow Thief improvements

According to your WeiDU.log you have installed Rogue Rebalancing before Quest Pack and Tactics. While it's not directly related to your slowdown issue, I thought I'd mention that Rogue Rebalancing should always be installed after mods which feature general AI improvements such as Big Picture, Tactics, Quest Pack...etc. Otherwise, some parts of RR like the "Shadow Thief Improvements" component and Arledrian's Silverblaze Quest may fail to function properly.

Edited by aVENGER, 10 July 2007 - 02:27 AM.

[Strontium Dog]

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #4 // Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #5 // Chosen of Cyric encounter
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #6 // Shadow Thief improvements

According to your WeiDU.log you have installed Rogue Rebalancing before Quest Pack and Tactics. While it's not directly related to your slowdown issue, I thought I'd mention that Rogue Rebalancing should always be installed after mods which feature general AI improvements such as Big Picture, Tactics, Quest Pack...etc. Otherwise, some parts of RR like the "Shadow Thief Improvements" component and Arledrian's Silverblaze Quest may fail to function properly.

Thanks a lot!!!

[Strontium Dog]

~SETUP-BATTLES.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Dungeon (What dungeon--Irenicus?)
~VIC.TP2~ #0 #11 // Improved Irenicus Dungeon(Not as difficult as Improved Ilyich)
Slow performance can be caused by "conflicting" mods, too.

The "Improved Dungeon" mod-component only changes the demon-knight on level 1 and the 3-4 shadow-thieves in level 2 in irenicus' Dungeon. I'd thought that the "Improved Irenicus mod didn't specifically conflict with those two encounters but if it did, it would just overwrite them. - well, perhaps I'm wrong re this. I won't install the former component.

The tactics mod I have not installed but I have BP instead and I followed the same path as you with DSOA and not duplicating some of those components. So it can't be there.
What version of FR-ROV? have you installed?

I installed FR_ROV version 4, the latest one.

Check this out I am sure you have but you may try the alternate 0602bcs by erebusant
Install List and in game lag fix by erebusant
Stick with it because I get sick of reinstalling over and over because of a problem, albeit, a minor one where as I could just take a file out or replace one to keep playing the game. You have done the research on compatibility but that never means the play is smooth.

I've never bothered with this one before. I'd assumed it was amerely a fix intended to sort out the bugs in the Big Picture mod - are you sure it won't be a problem for a non-BP install?

Thanks for the info, so far.

[Strontium Dog]

Strontium, do you have drow gear coming back to Chateau Irenicus?

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1050 // Gradual Drow Item Disintegration

I haven't tried CTB yet. I know in past installations with that tweak the game slowed down a little after Underdark when I had drow stuff. Maybe it is the whole tweak itself??
Hoppy

I'll definitely get rid of that component - besides it's not really necessary and I gather that any mod that checks for items, such as whether drow items will degrade/disintegrate, slows down the game.

Re drow-gear:- As I'm just starting the game, I have no drow gear, so that's not it.

[aVENGER]

Thanks a lot!!!

No problem.

BTW, to help people find the optimal way to install Rogue Rebalancing alongside other mods I've started compiling (what is to eventually become) a comprehensive compatibility guide.

Edited by aVENGER, 10 July 2007 - 04:53 AM.

[Strontium Dog]

I have several other questions:-


I would love to hear from someone who's extensively played through BG2:TOB with Tactics mod-installed as well as other BG2:TOB games with the Big Picture mod installed, instead. First of all, did you find the BP-Core AI better or worse than Tactics(ie more lethal to PCs)? I can't believe that they're the same, despite reassurances. from some posters.- given the readmes etc. Also, did you find the BP mod's Sendai even remotely challenging compared to the Oversight Mod's (multiple) version of Sendai? I have to admit I loved the Tactics habit of hostile liches casting horrid wilting spells etc. instead of Bioware's power-word stun spells etc., and I want a similiarly very difficult game as I've played through it so often before. Also, how many Big Picture bugs did you encounter(and which ones(please give details) were game-breaking, requiring CLUAConsole etc.)? I've played through Tactics with a dozen other mods installed, along with TDD, and only had a slight problem with TDD.

Lastly, if I did choose to install Big Picture mods etc., would I have to give up on installing any and all combat-/encounter-enhancements mods such as "Improved Battles" etc.?

Edited by Strontium Dog, 10 July 2007 - 05:22 AM.

[Azazello]

I would love to hear from someone who's extensively played through BG2:TOB with Tactics mod-installed as well as other BG2:TOB games with the Big Picture mod installed, instead. First of all, did you find the BP-Core AI better or worse than Tactics(ie more lethal to PCs)? I can't believe that they're the same, despite reassurances. from some posters.- given the readmes etc.

I played with Tactics up to the very end of ToB, and with various versions of BP up to getting into the pocketplane. Each, several times.

I gave you my opinion here: http://www.shsforums...p...&pid=321948

I have never read anywhere that Tactics and BP were the same, at least not from people who actually knew what Tactics and BP do.

Also, how many Big Picture bugs did you encounter(and which ones(please give details) were game-breaking, requiring CLUAConsole etc.)?

I really hope that this question will be answered in a thread that actually reports BP bugs. You got a few answers in your other thread: http://www.shsforums...showtopic=27945

if I did choose to install Big Picture mods etc., would I have to give up on installing any and all combat-/encounter-enhancements mods such as "Improved Battles" etc.?

"any and all" doesn't allow for a 'yes' or 'no' answer, so... Start off by reading the first post of BP-WeiDu Compatibility Guide. If a mod's not listed, then search the Mega Mod Help forum, see if anyone can confirm/deny compatibility. If you still don't find anything, try the mod out and give us a report.

[Strontium Dog]

OK, to sum up:- I've tried installing a BG2 mega-mod install all over again - and I checked the game a couple of mods before the BG2Tweaks mod was installed, and everything was fine when I tried a game - no slowdown at all. Once I'd installed eveything, c.5 mods after BG2Tweaks, I tried a BG2 game again, and everything started slowing down badly, as usual. I've removed the "avatar morphing script" component of BG2Tweaks, which didn't speed things up . I'd already deliberately omitted the "Gradual Drow Disintegration" component of BG2Tweaks, and I'm currently about to see if getting rid of the bottomless bag of holding component works. - but I doubt it - my next attempt will involve cutting out all unnecessary NPCs and relatively unnecessary, potentially-conflicting mods like Virtue and P5Tweaks, and I'll see if that works. But I'm pretty sure that one or more components of BG2Tweaks is to blame, given previous reports re some of its problematic components - funny, my Tutu install was never slowed down by the BG2Tweaks mod.

I would most appreciate it if people could give me other ideas re curing slowdown. I've already tried replacing the area602 file, as suggested in the Big Picture threads and here as well - that actually disrupted things after I did it - neither Irenicus and his minions nor Imoen appeared at all. I had to use cheatkeys to get out of the cell and see if I was still experiencing slowdown - (I was). Perhaps, next time, i can try replacing the baldur.bcs file with the replacement file provided, to see if that works.

(One possibility I've thought of is that I was using the Refinements mod "HLA" component , which might have slowed things down. I'd installed the XPlevel.2da file from Darkest Day(TDD) into the Refinements/hlab/shared/copy folder as stated in the Big Picture compatibility thread(I couldn't find a XP.2da file in the mian TDD file, so I merely improvised and altered the figures in the CPCap.2da file in the SOA/override section, until I was able to reach level 50 with my triple-classed fighter/mage/thief - the BP-thread had stated that games with TDD or BP installed had level-50 rulesets which interfered with the HLA component of Refinements. I only just realised, after careful scrutiny, that there is also a triple-classed HLA component in the BG2Tweaks mod, which it might have been better to install - it was always skipped before, because I'd installed that Refinements component, beforehand. Anyway, I guess tinkering with the override files is considered a lot more dodgy than using WEIDU, so I'll see if this time round, it works without the Refinements mod at all).

One question:- If I install Tactics mod as well as the DOtQuestPack and the DoTWeak mod, in which order should I really install them? After looking at the Big Picture threads, I'd thought that they should be installed in this order:- DoTQuestPack, DoTweak mod, and Tactics mod - is this correct?

Edited by Strontium Dog, 11 July 2007 - 10:02 AM.

[Derkoth the Disgruntled]

Well, leaving aside issues of mod compatibility for the time being, I should note that an overstuffed override folder can also cause stuttering and the lag you experienced. The big mods biff themselves in order to avoid this, but all those small mods that add WAV files to the override folder can really inflate the folder's size, slowing the game down considerably. A custom biff-job of all the WAV files in the override folder cleared up my issues in a jiffy, FYI.

Still, that's not to say that you don't have compatibility issues in your existing setup. I can't speak as much to that, as I haven't completed a game to ToB in about five years, despite about 30 mega-reinstalls...



DtD

[Hoppy]

Derkoth, could you give some insight on this custom biff of wave files??

Well, leaving aside issues of mod compatibility for the time being, I should note that an overstuffed override folder can also cause stuttering and the lag you experienced. The big mods biff themselves in order to avoid this, but all those small mods that add WAV files to the override folder can really inflate the folder's size, slowing the game down considerably. A custom biff-job of all the WAV files in the override folder cleared up my issues in a jiffy, FYI.

Thanks,
Hoppy

[Azazello]

Derkoth, could you give some insight on this custom biff of wave files??

Uh-oh, this is gonna be fun...

You can look at the biffing file in nearly all the large Quest mods, usually called <something>install<something>.BAT, or <something>.BAT. You'll see 'make-biff' commands in them. There're also threads about biffing, search just the Title for 'biff'.

Edited by Azazello, 11 July 2007 - 10:14 PM.

[Strontium Dog]

Well, leaving aside issues of mod compatibility for the time being, I should note that an overstuffed override folder can also cause stuttering and the lag you experienced. The big mods biff themselves in order to avoid this, but all those small mods that add WAV files to the override folder can really inflate the folder's size, slowing the game down considerably. A custom biff-job of all the WAV files in the override folder cleared up my issues in a jiffy, FYI.

Still, that's not to say that you don't have compatibility issues in your existing setup. I can't speak as much to that, as I haven't completed a game to ToB in about five years, despite about 30 mega-reinstalls...



DtD

Thanks. I just got hold of two biffing mods - one normally designed for NEJ and a smaller biffing mod. I hope they work.