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[Orthodoxia]

You know berelinde, for a moment there I thought: "Aerie, Gavin, Letter? Did I miss something in the mod!?" And then it was: "BG2. Not out yet. Must be patient." On the other hand, I like your drawing. I immensely respect anyone who has the patience to color their work.

And thanks Alatariel, that is a high praise - though why a 15 minutes sketch turned out better then some drawings I work on for hours I'll never understand.

[vilkacis]

*Cespenar voice* Um... Bit lopsided but... vaguely Aerie-shaped... maybe?



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I keep thinking I should practice more, and then I get stuck on the Intarwebs instead.

[WeeRLegion]

Eeeek! A Nekkid Legolas!


Don't worry, I would do a worse job drawing her.

Edited by WeeRLegion, 26 June 2007 - 02:12 AM.

[Galsic]

Hey, if Aerie was turned into a guy, that's EXACTLY what she'd look like! Sorry, man, but that long, chiseled face does give off masculine vibes, though I'd bet if you got rid of a few choice lines (such as those on the cheeks and that angular one by the nose) and, perhaps, gave her some slightly longer lashes (I would), she'd look a lot more feminine. Beyond that, the coloring is pretty good .

[vilkacis]

o rly?



...sry.

[WeeRLegion]

Ahh, ye, sorry about that, I'm just evil.

Anyway, it often happens to me too, when i'm trying to shape a feminne face: it turns out too blocky and looks like a bloke instead... Detail is often a good cure, a little make up kinda stuff, the eyelashes as Galsic pointed out.


The hair, well, I don't know if my method is any good, but i'll share anyway:
First I add the kind of singe-strand texturing highlights, as you have.
Then i paint it some general shapes in the direction the hair is flowing with a large hard-edged brush (lighten/darken, focusing in turns on shadows and highlights. brings a lot of contrast though).
And last, I add the light-source based shaping highlights and shadows with a medium size soft-edged brush.
And, you know, i'm just saynig this becasue IIRC you were asking about hair earlier.


EDIT: GAHHH! MY EYES! MY EYES!

Edited by WeeRLegion, 26 June 2007 - 03:19 AM.

[vilkacis]

Anyway, it often happens to me too, when i'm trying to shape a feminne face: it turns out too blocky and looks like a bloke instead... Detail is often a good cure, a little make up kinda stuff, the eyelashes as Galsic pointed out.

Yeah, but I'd like to find a way to draw natural looking females. If I can't do it without make-up, BIG PHAIL OMG.

The hair, well, I don't know if my method is any good, but i'll share anyway:
First I add the kind of singe-strand texturing highlights, as you have.
Then i paint it some general shapes in the direction the hair is flowing with a large hard-edged brush (lighten/darken, focusing in turns on shadows and highlights. brings a lot of contrast though).
And last, I add the light-source based shaping highlights and shadows with a medium size soft-edged brush.
And, you know, i'm just saynig this becasue IIRC you were asking about hair earlier.

I most certainly did ask, so thanks.

I think the biggest problem (and not only with hair) is that I don't have enough practice to "feel" a light source without using a reference, which feels like cheating. Guess I'll just have to decide if I'd rather cheat or suck forever.

EDIT: GAHHH! MY EYES! MY EYES!

Just be happy that I didn't make them more detailed than that...



[EDIT] Better like this, then? (Also with more golden hair!)

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Edited by vilkacis, 26 June 2007 - 04:32 AM.

[Jazhara7]

Ahh, ye, sorry about that, I'm just evil.

Anyway, it often happens to me too, when i'm trying to shape a feminne face: it turns out too blocky and looks like a bloke instead... Detail is often a good cure, a little make up kinda stuff, the eyelashes as Galsic pointed out.

Seriously? Whenever I try to draw a male, it turns out too effeminate. No seriously. People keep on thinking the male portraits I draw are girls.

It's gotten better over time, but if something goes wrong, it ends up looking like a girl.


It's pretty common. I've met many other artists who have complained that they seem to have difficulty drawing one or another gender.


On a side note, I think it's fun asking people what gender they think Vaarsuvius from OOTS is. I found that guys usually answer "female", while girls (including me) seem to think he's male. Of course, there's always exceptions. And in both cases we can't really explain why we have that opinion. There must be something that gives the impression, but neither party can ever put their finger on it.



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[berelinde]

Aerie and Haldamir (in-progress NPC), "Stargazing"

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[vilkacis]

On a side note, I think it's fun asking people what gender they think Vaarsuvius from OOTS is. I found that guys usually answer "female", while girls (including me) seem to think he's male. Of course, there's always exceptions. And in both cases we can't really explain why we have that opinion. There must be something that gives the impression, but neither party can ever put their finger on it.

I tend to lean slightly towards "him" being male, personally. (It's like, 50% male, 40% female, and 10% either "neither", "both" or "just plain WTF???"...)


Well, since my attempts at realism don't seem to work all that well, here's a cheesy little anime Aerie with a cheesy little anime... wing thingy. And stuff?



...I dunno. She might still look too much like Legolas.

(No, I don't spam these topics. It... only looks that way! Honest!)

[HERD]

Make up your mind, Vilkacis, boobs or wings

[WeeRLegion]

Definitely a good few grades on the better side on the gender scales. At least it can't be called a "man", a girlish boy at worst (Oh, wait, can Legolas be called a man? x_x Im' tying myself in a fricken knot here...).
No matter t3h cheese, good job. ^^



EDIT: Oh, HERD made it here a moment ahead of me... I'll just have to ask? WHAAAAT?!
That's weird.

Edited by WeeRLegion, 27 June 2007 - 03:42 AM.

[vilkacis]

Make up your mind, Vilkacis, boobs or wings

I can't have both?

(Oh, wait, can Legolas be called a man? x_x Im' tying myself in a fricken knot here...).

I think it's best not to speculate.

No matter t3h cheese, good job. ^^

Thx!

[HERD]

I can't have both?

Absolutely, thanks to Photoshop

[Menelanna]

here is my addition. Aerie before she lost her wings and became a whinny little brat. I love drawing wings.

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[theacefes]

She looks very serene and un-bratlike.

[Alatariel]

Aerie and Haldamir (in-progress NPC), "Stargazing"

Nice pic, Berelinde... (though his right hand is out of proportion.. but as I can't draw even if my life depends on it I shouldn't say a word XD) In progress by whom? (I had to ask ^^').

(Oh, wait, can Legolas be called a man? x_x Im' tying myself in a fricken knot here...).

You mean, the one by Orlando Bloom? Hardly. It can be called a piece of lamentable acting, though.

I can't have both?

Aww, course you can. Just look here - this one has both, see?

here is my addition. Aerie before she lost her wings and became a whinny little brat. I love drawing wings.

Whoa, Mene, that is your best piece, imo! But - if I can offer a little criticism - the wings should be bigger then that to endure her weight. But other than that - this is *exactly* how I imagined Aerie in BG2:).

Edited by Alatariel, 27 June 2007 - 08:48 AM.

[berelinde]

Aerie and Haldamir (in-progress NPC), "Stargazing"

Nice pic, Berelinde... In progress by whom? (I had to ask ^^').

Me, and he's about half done. But don't get too excited. He is more of an abbreviated content NPC than a full-content one: 2 banters with BioWare NPCs for SoA, 1 apiece for ToB, 4-6 PC banters, no quests, no romances. There is no NPC/NPC romance, either. They're just looking at stars.

[Menelanna]

here is my addition. Aerie before she lost her wings and became a whinny little brat. I love drawing wings.

Whoa, Mene, that is your best piece, imo! But - if I can offer a little criticism - the wings should be bigger then that to endure her weight. But other than that - this is *exactly* how I imagined Aerie in BG2:).

Thank you. And I do agree that the wings could be larger. I realized that after I inked it already...

I actually use to never ink or color my pictures really, but these challanges have gotten me into doing it. I would do coloring if time allowed.

[Alatariel]

. He is more of an abbreviated content NPC than a full-content one: 2 banters with BioWare NPCs for SoA, 1 apiece for ToB, 4-6 PC banters, no quests, no romances.

Yeah, you say that now. However you may yet change your opinion when he is released;). And if not -well, happens. We still have Gavin to cuddle with^^'.