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[kalia]

And how hard is to make such a shot with lightning flash? :]

Having just tried that the other day - very hard. And my pics didn't show the lightning nearly as well as yours, oh master. Though someone here took one using fraps, apparently that was easier.

Yeah, that was me, it's very easy to use the video capture in Fraps, then just use Windows Movie Maker to extract the frame you want to use as a screenie.

If I didn't have black-hole-memory, I'd have remembered it was you!

But I think Sensei Trollf has another way . . . .

[Soul_Slayer]

Okies, I'll shut up now, please continue O wise one.

EDIT: Hope I didn't chase him away.

Edited by Soul_Slayer, 25 May 2007 - 09:38 AM.

[trollf]

Yeah, that was me, it's very easy to use the video capture in Fraps, then just use Windows Movie Maker to extract the frame you want to use as a screenie. :cheers:

Yes, it's easy with FRAPS but not that fast and comfortable to me O_o And what about the same scene where pics are taken from different angles with the same flash? :]

Ok, here's the 3rd trick of mine ;]


The story about Lightnings...
If you want to have an easy catch of lightning flash visible on your screenshots make sure that you are familiar with the 1st trick of mine (that one with frozen time). At the first step you need to setup your overall scene (NPC placement, animations etc.). After that use any weather changing mod* (or console command**) to change it to any weather where lightning flashes. Then perform those actions required to freeze the time. When the action is frozen and you can fly with camera around then wait a bit for lightning flash to occur. Sometimes it lasts a few seconds, sometimes several dozen. You must be patient ;] When this much anticipated moment will come then lightning will stroke and brighten everything and it will stay in such a state without fading O_o Now flying with camera and taking shots of still action is quite easy ;]

NOTE:
If you want to control exactly from which direction the lightning flash will brighten the scene you may want to set the position of the sun before changing the weather to thunderstrom (just wait a few hours by pressing T button - Sleep Rest Wait Any Time mod by b3w4r3 comes in handy here along with some 100% chameleon ring and 'stopcombat' console command when you want to setup the show with any enemies).


* If you have the SI expansion you may want to use this ;]
Forecaster's Will

** eg. console command for a thunderstorm weather (switches immediately):
fw 38ef1

Edited by trollf, 25 May 2007 - 09:46 AM.

[Soul_Slayer]

Wow, I think my head is spinning.

No disrespect intended or anything, but that seems like it's more involving that the method I used, but like you stated, my method also doesn't give me shots of the same flash at different angles.

Thanks for the useful info trollf.

[trollf]

Soul_Slayer -
With the trick of mine you can have lightning flash in ANY scene you want. All you have to do is to stop the game by pressing ~ button. So my trick IS NOT random. Far from it. You have full control here.
See this particular picture for example. It has been brightened by the flash of the lightning. Do you think I was lucky? No. Definitely not. That was intended. Can you make such screens with your method without any luck? ;]

Edited by trollf, 25 May 2007 - 10:19 AM.

[kalia]

Soul_Slayer -
With the trick of mine you can have lightning flash in ANY scene you want. All you have to do is to stop the game by pressing ~ button. So my trick IS NOT random. Far from it. You have full control here.
See this particular picture for example. It has been brightened by the flash of the lightning. Do you think I was lucky? No. Definitely not. That was intended. Can you make such screens with your method without any luck? ;]

So - we set the weather to lightning, then freeze action, then wait for the first lightning strike - then the lightning will stay?

[trollf]

Exactly.

[Zombie216]

This is a rare shot, in fact, I think it's the first time even I have seen this:

[attachment=5978:smiling_Jas.jpg]
I could never even get her to smile using AIC, she just wouldn't do it.

you said she wouldnt smile even if u were using aic, thats because combat. ive noticed that trying to make the expression of my char change when recently she was fighting someone, she wouldnt change. then when combat hadnt happened for a while, there she would be smiling like i told her to

[Soul_Slayer]

Soul_Slayer -
With the trick of mine you can have lightning flash in ANY scene you want. All you have to do is to stop the game by pressing ~ button. So my trick IS NOT random. Far from it. You have full control here.
See this particular picture for example. It has been brightened by the flash of the lightning. Do you think I was lucky? No. Definitely not. That was intended. Can you make such screens with your method without any luck? ;]

Well, yes, I can do it without luck, because I pick the shot I want to use from a 30 second video clip. I'm not sure why you jumped on the defensive though, if my reply gave you that sence, then I apologize for that.

you said she wouldnt smile even if u were using aic, thats because combat. ive noticed that trying to make the expression of my char change when recently she was fighting someone, she wouldnt change. then when combat hadnt happened for a while, there she would be smiling like i told her to

I've tried to get her to smile after a looong time of no combat using AIC, Jasmine tends to wander around the landscape just taking in the scenery.

[greatfool1]

Yeah, that was me, it's very easy to use the video capture in Fraps, then just use Windows Movie Maker to extract the frame you want to use as a screenie.

Yes, it's easy with FRAPS but not that fast and comfortable to me O_o And what about the same scene where pics are taken from different angles with the same flash? :]

Ok, here's the 3rd trick of mine ;]

The story about Lightnings...
If you want to have an easy catch of lightning flash visible on your screenshots make sure that you are familiar with the 1st trick of mine (that one with frozen time). At the first step you need to setup your overall scene (NPC placement, animations etc.). After that use any weather changing mod* (or console command**) to change it to any weather where lightning flashes. Then perform those actions required to freeze the time. When the action is frozen and you can fly with camera around then wait a bit for lightning flash to occur. Sometimes it lasts a few seconds, sometimes several dozen. You must be patient ;] When this much anticipated moment will come then lightning will stroke and brighten everything and it will stay in such a state without fading O_o Now flying with camera and taking shots of still action is quite easy ;]
NOTE:
If you want to control exactly from which direction the lightning flash will brighten the scene you may want to set the position of the sun before changing the weather to thunderstrom (just wait a few hours by pressing T button - Sleep Rest Wait Any Time mod by b3w4r3 comes in handy here along with some 100% chameleon ring and 'stopcombat' console command when you want to setup the show with any enemies).

* If you have the SI expansion you may want to use this ;]
Forecaster's Will

** eg. console command for a thunderstorm weather (switches immediately):
fw 38ef1

Very nice, trollf!! This will be a lot of fun to play with. I know the following shot took me several attempts to catch lightning in vanilla oblivion and it was definitely lucky:

**** It was a dark and stormy night as Layla slipped away to her secret hiding place high up in SkinGrad. [Dialup #1]

So now we have:

trollf's Time Trick (originally dubbed trollf's Trick due to my limited vision of any further tricks) = TTT
trollf's Invisibility Trick = TIT
trollf's Weather Trick = TWT

Hmmm, I may want to re-think some of those abbreviations, but in any case, a BIG THANKS for your further extending our screenshooting capabilities!!!!

Edit: Soul_Slayer - I personally don't use Fraps because I usually capture shots at 1600x1200 to begin with - and at 5.5MB/shot, it wouldn't take long to really use up significant hard drive space if I was doing a video shoot approach (unless there is something I am missing here about your approach).

Edited by greatfool1, 25 May 2007 - 10:56 AM.

[Soul_Slayer]

Edit: Soul_Slayer - I personally don't use Fraps because I usually capture shots at 1600x1200 to begin with - and at 5.5MB/shot, it wouldn't take long to really use up significant hard drive space if I was doing a video shoot approach (unless there is something I am missing here about your approach).

I use Fraps because I have AA turned on, I can't force AA with my video card.

[trollf]

greatfool1 -
Well, there's a trick with falling corpses as well. Like this, this, this and of course this. And I think you are familiar with the fact that usually the thing which falls first is the butt ;] Ekhm, but that... is another story... ;] ^_^

I personally don't use Fraps because I usually capture shots at 1600x1200 to begin with - and at 5.5MB/shot, it wouldn't take long to really use up significant hard drive space if I was doing a video shoot approach (unless there is something I am missing here about your approach).

Actually FRAPS can capture shots to jpgs directly... ;]

Edited by trollf, 25 May 2007 - 11:06 AM.

[Kimory]

trollf's Time Trick (originally dubbed trollf's Trick due to my limited vision of any further tricks) = TTT
trollf's Invisibility Trick = TIT
trollf's Weather Trick = TWT

HA! You said tit! HAHAHA!!!

Well, great Archmage trollf, what's next for your Apprentices of the Arcane University who know you have something exceedingly important to say, but they'd rather be studying their magic? (Ahem, screenshooting)

[greatfool1]

greatfool1 -
Well, there's a trick with falling corpses as well. Like this, this, this and of course this. And I think you are familiar with the fact that usually the thing which falls first is the butt ;] Ekhm, but that... is another story... ;]

I personally don't use Fraps because I usually capture shots at 1600x1200 to begin with - and at 5.5MB/shot, it wouldn't take long to really use up significant hard drive space if I was doing a video shoot approach (unless there is something I am missing here about your approach).

Actually FRAPS can capture shots to jpgs directly... ;]

I didn't know there was a way to be deliberate about flying corpses other than with the Realistic Ragdolls and Force V3 mod, Deadly Reflex, or some spell blast like Fingers of the Mountain, etc. That would also be very useful to know as I have trouble with Realistic Ragdolls, etc. I do understand if you need to keep some secrets, though adding trollf's Falling Corpses Trick to the list would be most generous of you!

I understand that about Fraps, but if I am shooting video like it would require to capture lightning, I would end up with a huge bunch of shots it seems.

trollf's Time Trick (originally dubbed trollf's Trick due to my limited vision of any further tricks) = TTT
trollf's Invisibility Trick = TIT
trollf's Weather Trick = TWT

HA! You said tit! HAHAHA!!!

Well, great Archmage trollf, what's next for your Apprentices of the Arcane University who know you have something exceedingly important to say, but they'd rather be studying their magic? (Ahem, screenshooting)

Oh, TIT, damn, sorry!
This reminds me of camp - I was 10 years old and there were about 200 scouts gathered around after dinner, and the scoutmaster said, ok we are going to play a game of saying a 1-syllable word to rhyme with "it". So each scout's turn came around, and by the time it was my turn, the only words left that I knew were "shit" and "tit". So I decided on "tit" because I knew it was a legitimate word, and no way was I going to say I knew no more words. So I yelled "TIT!" lt went over like a fart at a funeral - not another sound! Finally, the scoutmaster called the game! After that embarrassment , I started saying "shit" a lot more. Thanks for reminding me of this fond memory, Kimory!

Edited by greatfool1, 25 May 2007 - 12:02 PM.

[Soul_Slayer]

Yeah, I can see the size problem, a 30 second video capture at 1280x1024 produces a 256 MB file, but I look at it as once I get the frame I want, I just delete the video file.

[Rumpleteasza]

trollf's Time Trick (originally dubbed trollf's Trick due to my limited vision of any further tricks) = TTT
trollf's Invisibility Trick = TIT
trollf's Weather Trick = TWT

I love how everyone's solemly discussing advanced screenshotting techniques, and GF1 barrels in with his tits and twats and steals the show.

[greatfool1]

Yeah, I can see the size problem, a 30 second video capture at 1280x1024 produces a 256 MB file, but I look at it as once I get the frame I want, I just delete the video file.

Thanks for letting me know that is what actually happens as I only suspected it. It might even slow down the game having to write that much data and have OB playing as well?

trollf's Time Trick (originally dubbed trollf's Trick due to my limited vision of any further tricks) = TTT
trollf's Invisibility Trick = TIT
trollf's Weather Trick = TWT

I love how everyone's solemly discussing advanced screenshotting techniques, and GF1 barrels in with his tits and twats and steals the show.

*Ahem* have you checked your sig lately?
And besides, if I could actually barrel in with my own tits and twat, I would be playing with them rather than posting here!

Edited by greatfool1, 25 May 2007 - 12:47 PM.

[trollf]

And that's titesque!

[Soul_Slayer]

It might even slow down the game having to write that much data and have OB playing as well?

There's just a slight pause when I push the F9 key

And besides, if I could actually barrel in with my own tits and twat, I would actually be playing with them rather than posting here!

Amen to that brother.

[greatfool1]

And that's titesque!

Twat? Somehow I don't think the image of gf1 with tits and twat is very titillating-esque!

Edit: Wow, post #100 - such a remarkable, helpful, and significant post there, gf1!

Edited by greatfool1, 25 May 2007 - 12:45 PM.