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#1 arclogo

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:17 AM

Now I am planning to reinstall my BG game to try some new mod combinations. Since my last run-through experience with the ascension part of BP was literally too frustrating to tell (the ending scene, I mean) and bp v178 does not seem to be available in short terms, I am wondering if there is a relatively bug-free method to work around this issue with current resources--as far as I know, there appears to be two potential options:

1. use BP v176 (well, I do still keep a copy of it on my machine) instead of v177;

2. use BP 177 but do not install the ascension part of it, use original weidu-ascension instead (however, I cannot remember the installation order of these two......).

Could someone give me some advice on which option to take? Thanks in advance.

Edited by arclogo, 12 May 2007 - 11:34 AM.


#2 ronin

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:38 AM

Now I am planning to reinstall my BG game to try some new mod combinations. Since my last run-through experience with the ascension part of BP was literally too frustrating to tell (the ending scene, I mean) and bp v178 does not seem to be available in short terms, I am wondering if there is a relatively bug-free method to work around this issue with current resources--as far as I know, there appears to be two potential options:

1. use BP v176 (well, I do still keep a copy of it on my machine) instead of v177;

2. use BP 177 but do not install the ascension part of it, use original weidu-ascension instead (however, I cannot remember the installation order of these two......).

Could someone give me some advice on which option to take? Thanks in advance.


I use #2 but that is just my personal opinion and taste.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 01:00 PM

Now I am planning to reinstall my BG game to try some new mod combinations. Since my last run-through experience with the ascension part of BP was literally too frustrating to tell (the ending scene, I mean) and bp v178 does not seem to be available in short terms, I am wondering if there is a relatively bug-free method to work around this issue with current resources--as far as I know, there appears to be two potential options:

1. use BP v176 (well, I do still keep a copy of it on my machine) instead of v177;

2. use BP 177 but do not install the ascension part of it, use original weidu-ascension instead (however, I cannot remember the installation order of these two......).

Could someone give me some advice on which option to take? Thanks in advance.

For the time being until BP178 comes out, install the Weimer version of Ascension anywhere after your WM6 compatible mods and prior to BP, then install BP177 without the Ascension component. That should work.

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#4 melkor_morgoth75

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 01:16 AM

I would avoid BP177 core install ... just install the encounter's enhancers. I'd suggest u to install before BP also Tactics and Ding0 quests, they are almost bug-free i will give u no ptoblems (and good AI enhancer too). If u are going to play BGT install also SCS for BG1 part of the game (great mod indeed!).

BP177 actually has LOT of bugs (dragons not attacking, weird lines during battles and ... dozens of others unfortunately). My personal suggestion is to avoid it or install just encounter's components.

just my 2 cents,

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:39 AM

Can you install BPv177 without the Core component? I thought that was required for all the other components?

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#6 melkor_morgoth75

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:47 AM

Can you install BPv177 without the Core component? I thought that was required for all the other components?


Yep, u can ;)

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#7 Promilus

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 09:32 AM

It's sad the game with BP doesn't work as good as it should. BP is great mod, but those bugs ruins gameplay (Slayer change, Ritual Scroll, Tolgerias, Lasaonar, Final ToB fight and a few more).

#8 ronin

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 10:42 AM

I will take a look at it and see if I can fix it while we wait for seanas to release v178. I have my own local copy almost bug free but I still need to solve the slayer change, ritual scroll and final tob battle stuff.

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 08:50 AM

We are in your hands then, ronin... :cheers:

#10 abellio

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 10:23 AM

Hello !
I was wondering if it was possible to do a reinstall replacing Bp-ascension with Ascension-WeiDu, and use my final save, given i do everything in the exact same order ?
Or can i hope the fix Ronin is working on won't need to start a new game ?   :crying:

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 03:14 PM

If your final save is just before the transition to BG2 (i.e. just before talking to Belt) then 'Yes', that is the best time to do a re-install.

#12 abellio

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 10:24 PM

Ouch ! Does that mean that hoping that i could use my absolute-final-end-of-ToB save is silly ? :whistling:

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 10:13 AM

Do you have a save before leaving the pocket plane for the final time? That's also a good place to do a re-install, as your not coming back!

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 10:49 AM

Yes i do have several saves (before meeting balthazar, before entering the marching mountains,beforre leaving the pocket plane,etc...). So, to clarify, the idea is reinstalling all mods , i.e.:
BG2FIXPACK
SOS
CTB
TS-BP
BGT
DSOTSC
BP
Replacing BP-ascension with ascension weidu, go on with all the smaller mods,
Use a saved game with my party
Finish that %¨µ¨£ final fight.
Thanks for your replies !

#15 Azazello

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 12:39 PM

Perhaps it's not very clear from the previous post: install Original Ascension before BP, followed by BP but without the Ascension component.

The rest of your list is fine. Hope it works out, as no one has reported doing this before.

#16 abellio

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:21 PM

In fact, i didn't follow your advice (   :whistling:  ) as i've installed ascension-WeiDU at the point i installed ascension-BP, i.e. right AFTER BP (as ascension-BP is its last component).
Seems to be almost working , my final save did load (   :cheers:  ), mellissan's dialog triggered fine, but there's minor bugs (tashia's portrait not showing, mixed character's name, replaced by dialogs,etc...Nothing that can't be SK'ed... :).
I'll try later to load a previous saved game, to see if i can get balthazar to join...I'll post here.

#17 abellio

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 04:22 AM

Goes fine with balthazar joining, after bodhi, he spoke and the bridge appeared.   :cheers:

Off-topic: to have my characters get their names back, i had to find the str reference with NI and associate it with SK,, maybe we could make a post with all the characters str references so it could be easier for everyone having this problem ? (For exemple, Tashia is 127834, Keto is 123176, and Fade is 107361....)