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[Reneer]

Got latest releases of obse,reneers,Supreme magicka,ooo+uoe,mmm,streamline,oblivion patch (no SI)
tried loading reneers on latest position as well.

For some time reneers was working well, but now (in cities) i got a real bad ass bug that had me to disable it
When i hit someone near a guard then the whole game goes crazy.
You constantly hear the guys around you "stuttering" "STOP P STO P" and all other possible things the guards and the victim NPC can say when hit.
The npc does fight (the whole game lags very bad) but the guards do not even turn their head.
Once i have the victim killed everything goes to normal again, guards do not touch me.

Try downloading 1.62.

[Konky]

Hmm and not to forget: not all guards can be bribed (at least i'd like to see it like that)

I suggest this change to make the bribe option more interesting (at this time i never used it)
* the bribe amount depends on your outfit, if you wear expensive things the guard will take more
* the bibe amount depends on the guard, a bodyguard will not so easily be bribed, as well as a castle guard is honored by it's job and more likely won't be bribed
* the bribe amount could be made like a persuasion game.
-> you get a small hint about the guard
-> you can offer 100-10,000 gold
-> the guard will now respond and depending on your stats, the guard and the amount it will like you more/less accept/go away or even hit you
* A bribed guard will definitly not attack you for some time, maybe the guard might even help you when someone attacks because of your crime ?

[Konky]

New version old problems.
It's again incompatible with supreme magicka.
the previous one did not have there purple spell things that hit you all the time, now it's there again

[Reneer]

Small thing:
when i bribe a guard then it should not cause an alarm when it sees me doing something illegal.

You're bribing a guard to leave his post, not ignore crimes.

New version old problems.
It's again incompatible with supreme magicka.
the previous one did not have there purple spell things that hit you all the time, now it's there again

Have you tried changing the 'Spell Compatibility' setting in the Configuration Menu?

[Konky]

About the bribe:
Normally corruption works different :-)

About the Spell compatibility: both settings show no difference.
Maybe this helps:
the bug is exactly the same it was 2 releases ago (but i think i also had Supreme magicka updated at that time)
It is a purple magic ball that tries to hit you every 2 seconds.
in tdt output combat info (i am not in combat) you see a "magic projectile tracking 1.00/3.00" message every 2 seconds together with the sound and purple effect

[Reneer]

About the bribe:
Normally corruption works different :-)

About the Spell compatibility: both settings show no difference.
Maybe this helps:
the bug is exactly the same it was 2 releases ago (but i think i also had Supreme magicka updated at that time)
It is a purple magic ball that tries to hit you every 2 seconds.
in tdt output combat info (i am not in combat) you see a "magic projectile tracking 1.00/3.00" message every 2 seconds together with the sound and purple effect

Download 1.62a, that should fix your problem.

Edit: Make that 1.62b.

Edited by Reneer, 31 May 2007 - 04:08 PM.

[Konky]

I've very frequent gamecrashes with the 62a (did not try b yet)
Still with a:
I was in prison, i fighted the guards there and they did not react at all until dead (repeatable)

[Reneer]

I've very frequent gamecrashes with the 62a (did not try b yet)
Still with a:
I was in prison, i fighted the guards there and they did not react at all until dead (repeatable)

The gamecrashes I can't really help with, unless you give me more information.

As for the guards not attacking in prison, I just tested this and the guards were more than happy to bean my character's brains in.

[Konky]

It's hard to say because i had crashes in nearly any situation and NOT reproduceable.
Example:
I make a quicksave
I "wait" 3 hours in the house of ongar in bruma.
The game crashes after the wait. (directly to desktop)

I load the game again
i wait 3 hours (same location same time) -> no crash
I go out, walk the street a while -> crash to desktop

With the disabled mod i have no crashes at all anymore

[Reneer]

It's hard to say because i had crashes in nearly any situation and NOT reproduceable.
Example:
I make a quicksave
I "wait" 3 hours in the house of ongar in bruma.
The game crashes after the wait. (directly to desktop)

I load the game again
i wait 3 hours (same location same time) -> no crash
I go out, walk the street a while -> crash to desktop

With the disabled mod i have no crashes at all anymore

If the crashes cannot be reproduced, then I can't really fix them.

[Reneer]

THe guards don't do anything when i attack them, apart from shout out stuff like "someone help me", an they don't fight back, and they don't arrest me until I speak to them.

I'm also having this problem. They just stand there asking saying 'What the hell are you doing' etc, while I clobber them to my hearts content.

I'm using 1.62b if that helps ?

I don't know why this bug keeps appearing... the only recommendation I could make is to open up the Configuration Menu and see if that fixes anything. I'll take another look at the code to see if I can't divine why this error occurs.

I also get frequent crashes.
When approaching some zones such as Wendelbek ruins, I get crashes. It works fine without RGO.
In Nerastarel House as well, I got crashes with three ghosts.
And many others, I can't really be sure of what is causing them.
But they don't happen without RGO.

Maybe this is related to MMM?
Some npc mods...

I also use Mighty Magick. I think it's similar tu Supreme Magicka and I think there are problems with this one.
Deadly Reflex may cause some conflicts with AI?

Some stats advancement mods?

I use Modular Oblivion Enhanced also. Some plugins alters the AI a bit I think.

Well so I can't say what causes the crashes, but there are crashes with RGO 1.62b.
It works perfectly without it. It crashes frequently with it.

I just went to Wendelbek ruins, ran around both inside and outside the ruins, killed some Necromancers, etc, etc, and did not get one crash. So all I can surmise is that it is not caused by my mod alone. If it can't be attributed directly to my mod, but is rather caused by either a bad interaction with another mod or another mod entirely, there isn't much I can do about it, especially if it can't be narrowed down as to which mod is causing the problem.

[Reneer]

*Is not sure what maddog77 is trying to say?*

[Reneer]

I've got the purple spell problem, but I can't fix it. I've got Supreme Magicka installed, which I presume is causing the problem. I just installed 1.62b, using a clean save in an npc-less location. However, upon loading, I found this silly pink/purple spell effect around me which I couldn't get rid of. I lost my Guard Config Overhaul Ring, received the Corpse Carry spell, but couldn't get rid of the lights. I tried disabling the mod, but that CTDs on load. I redownloaded, etc. So, is there a startquest command that I can use to get the ability to use the configuration menu, which I can't currently access?

Hmm, I fixed it somehow by reextracting the mod and renaming it to RensGuardOverhaul162b.esp. I dunno how that could have helped, but I switched seamlessly from one to the other and got the ring.

Next time, all you need to do is uncheck the mod, load up a save-game, save, and then exit Oblivion. The next time you load, check the mod again and load up the save-game that does not have the mod 'installed.'

For 1.63 I will make the Configuration Ring a Quest item.