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[kalia]

MystykStar - Thank you for taking the time to post. I am glad to see you back over here - I think many who read the posts on ESF were shocked to find you felt yourself excluded, which just goes to show one shouldn't assume others are aware of their value to the community! As far as my name coming up over there, I have feeling a certain "p" word you used in those posts that I now see was most likely referring to yourself was felt by some to be referring to me. Silly internet misunderstandings!

It is odd to me the lines that are drawn on that other board, and I mean even outside of the screenshooting thing. And yes, our poor Floydian1 is such a lightning rod for that! Difficult to be that talented *and* that uncomfortable with tons of attention. I am glad to read that you feel this group is indeed a good environment. (I hope that is what you are saying!) I myself have had a bevy of unhealthy relationships in my own life, and understand the mistrust (in one's self & others) that lingers afterwards.

There's just no way RL can not affect our online life. In fact, if someone were able to compartmentalize that well, I'd say they either needed some serious amounts of therapy or to become a spy a la Syndey Bristow in Alias. I know my health/time of the month (too much information? ) affects what I type. On the internet, where's there's no facial expressions (despite my love of emoticons, they aren't quite the same) or tone of voice, it's hard to tell if someone's just very very upset, having a horrible day, or really has decided he/she hates the person/thing/whatever he/she is talking about. One thing about moving to a more free environment that I think is a plus is the ability to converse about such things - to say, "Heads up everyone, I feel like crap today, sorry if I'm grumpy" or "I could use some extra hugs today". I'll say again - this move happened in an environment of turmoil and upset, and change is never easy - but I really really believe it is for the best. Not that the old thread should die a painful death - or any sort of death - but that here we can grow and expand in ways that the esf just isn't designed for. And there's thanks to you in that as well - if you hadn't voiced some complaints on esf, this thread & the (I think very good) ideas within it might not have ever come up, or not this quickly, at least. So all's well that ends well, really. Or, to avoid the word "end", results in wellness.

I'm sorry to hear you aren't as whole-heartedly in love with SeV as I am (in a totally non-stalkerish and friendly way, that is ), where he can do no wrong, but I'll let the two of you work that out.

My ending thoughts: LOVEFEST!

greatfool1 - I actually like the siggy idea. Perhaps those still posting there could have something like "fan-run pictures forum" or "another great place to post piccies" - something not putting down the esf forum, but just pointing out there's another, free-er place to go.

[greatfool1]

Hector the Hooded, on May 10 2007, 10:18 AM, said:

@ GF1 - A lot of people (including myself) mass PM'd folks to get them to come over here. I had to have PM'd like 40 people! I can't imagine how many other were PM'd.

I'm on the staff to!

gf1 whispering: Shhh, I know this Hector. And thank you very much for taking all the time to invite us!

But please understand that Layla is very very upset with IG Hector and I don't want to deal with her if she finds out that I am talking with you! She is not only PMS but feels betrayed and excluded! I am having to remind her that this is her own doing and that IG Hector is free to do what he wants - even if he did lead Layla on with promises of dates and a very BIG love. Guys change too - though, imo, it would have been classier if IG had of let Layla know about his harem before she showed up.

She can deal with it - it's just that I don't want to deal with her right now. She understands her own tendency to feel betrayed when things don't go the way she would like - and doesn't really blame IG Hector - but she is still very upset. Btw, she has never liked me for saying things like this to her - but such is life, you know. Sometimes we just have to accept what others say, and if the shoe fits, well, wear it - or not. But Layla is a big girl and will soon see she created yet another circumstance in order to feel excluded/betrayed and separate. We all do this by tendency, don't you know? And once we see we are always tending to do this, we can counter it and even undermine the insiders/outsiders ritual. Layla will get over this - she always does.

Layla: gf1, who are you talking to?

gf1: Oh a really cool moderator.
Layla: Which one?

gf1: Bye!

Later!

[Kaeloree]

Just like to personally say 'hi'! Welcome to SHS, greatfool1 - great to see you here! I'm glad you're enjoying your time here - and that goes for everyone else, as well.

Community politics are never fun, but you are all handling it incredibly well - it's fantastic to see everyone being so mature, it really is.

[Soul_Slayer]

greatfool1, on May 10 2007, 10:05 AM, said:

I would hope that some of us from here can continue posting our best stuff also on that thread - like Spike, Floydian1, Luchaire, Soul Slayer, Star, and others still do. Maybe even include a tasteful invite to SHS in our sigs there. A sig that lets others know of this Forum and the Pics thread community here, but not playing it off or against the pics thread there.

I have to admit it's rather hard to continue posting there, I'm still a bit pissed at the community there for having a part in a certain modder leaving, no one really seemed to even care. He was one of the most helpful, and giving peolpe in the Morrowind community, and a good modeller as well. Unfortunately he didn't receive the same courtesy that he extended to others. Even though he felt unwanted, he still left his site up, shows what kind of a person the community scorned.

Sorry I brought that up, he was one of my favorite modellers from the Morrowind community, and the way he was ignored like that just chaps my ass.

[Rumpleteasza]

MystykStar, on May 10 2007, 10:16 AM, said:

I thought maybe you were him with a new ID I don't know much about you (and was recently smacked over the head by Rumple ) but judging by your posts and the way you easily get along with everybody it's really difficult not to like you.

I wasn't smacking you over the head, I promise. I sent you pm explaining myself a bit more, I don't know whether you got it. All I was trying to do was figure out what happened, and why certain people felt left out or uncomfortable - I'm sorry if it came across as harsh. I've always loved your characters and your posts, and I'd hate for us to have any sort of animosity. I didn't mean to stick my nose in and end up hurting you.

Friends?

[greatfool1]

K, on May 10 2007, 10:59 AM, said:

Just like to personally say 'hi'! Welcome to SHS, greatfool1 - great to see you here! I'm glad you're enjoying your time here - and that goes for everyone else, as well.

Community politics are never fun, but you are all handling it incredibly well - it's fantastic to see everyone being so mature, it really is.

Well thank you very much for this! Yep, definitely a very enjoyable place!

Oh, and thanks for the welcome PM when I first logged in. Heheh, I thought that was cool how a beautiful babe just popped up right when I logged in. Uhhh, I mentioned this to SConrad (Seb?) in another section (The Rec Room, I think) and he told me you were a guy! Another bubble popped but it was fun while it lasted!

Community politics are always uhhh...... interesting! I think the inherent difficulties must have something to do with the sheer fact that we are all born into a condition of relatedness to everything, but our individual egoic nature is to constantly separate out from that condition in order to feel like we exist or are special or whatever. What fun!

Soul_Slayer, on May 10 2007, 11:20 AM, said:

greatfool1, on May 10 2007, 10:05 AM, said:

I would hope that some of us from here can continue posting our best stuff also on that thread - like Spike, Floydian1, Luchaire, Soul Slayer, Star, and others still do. Maybe even include a tasteful invite to SHS in our sigs there. A sig that lets others know of this Forum and the Pics thread community here, but not playing it off or against the pics thread there.

I have to admit it's rather hard to continue posting there, I'm still a bit pissed at the community there for having a part in a certain modder leaving, no one really seemed to even care. He was one of the most helpful, and giving peolpe in the Morrowind community, and a good modeller as well. Unfortunately he didn't receive the same courtesy that he extended to others. Even though he felt unwanted, he still left his site up, shows what kind of a person the community scorned.

Sorry I brought that up, he was one of my favorite modellers from the Morrowind community, and the way he was ignored like that just chaps my ass.

Yeah, that must have been difficult for him. Very cool that he still persists though!

Well, only if you want to post on TES, of course. I really enjoy your screenies.


@ MystykStar - I have never been called a bounty hunter before, and given this is apparently about a period that was almost half a year ago, how about PMing me with what your issues about this are. I don't think it is necessary to bother everyone else with whatever we need to work out. If you prefer not to PM, then go ahead and let me know that here so we can figure out another way to speak of this.

Edited by greatfool1, 10 May 2007 - 10:36 AM.

[SeV]

I'll refrain from commenting on the current "situation".

In other news, I think I'm going to close the poll. Unless another 50 people show up to vote, it's pretty obvious what the majority of people want. An objections?

[Hector the Hooded]

Ok, I don't want to be a dick here folks, but it seems to me we are steering away from what this post was designed for.

Which is fine, I'm all for off-topic funess!

But things appear to be getting a little more....personal between certain people who have posted here, and I would like it to stop. Please guys, take it to PM, and don't make me act like a moderator!

Edited by Hector the Hooded, 10 May 2007 - 11:25 AM.

[The Raven Crown]

No objections on my part.

[SeV]

They're "on-topic"hector . This is for discussing grievances of any type. That's why I made the thread. As long as nobody is getting downright nasty about it and personally insulting one another, it's cool

[Rumpleteasza]

SeV, on May 10 2007, 07:55 PM, said:

I'll refrain from commenting on the current "situation".

In other news, I think I'm going to close the poll. Unless another 50 people show up to vote, it's pretty obvious what the majority of people want. An objections?

None from me! It all sounds good. Looking forward to seeing what you and the other mods are going to whip up.

[Hector the Hooded]

@ SeV - I don't give a crap ethier way about on-topic/off-topic! (I'm the king of offtopic!) but the little "comments" if you will, seem to be getting less and less subtle, and I really want this to be a friendly place for everyone!

Oh, and if someone felt like I was threatening them, or being blunt/rude it was just me!

Sometimes my English gets a bit mixed up\beffudeled!

Edited by Hector the Hooded, 10 May 2007 - 11:25 AM.

[The Raven Crown]

Welcome to the new home of the screenshot thread: The Great Screenshot Wars

Really, I have only been around in the very beginning and this last month and cannot take part in something I know nothing about, but I do have to ask that you refrain yourselves. Unless they raped your girlfriend or something bad like that, we can behave, eh?

[kalia]

I'm fine with closing the poll. I've been checking & it hasn't seemed to have changed much. And, after all, this is our place - if it doesn't work we can change again.

[Soul_Slayer]

Sorry if my last post was a bit out of line, guess I woke up in a bad mood this morning.

[Hector the Hooded]

Not your fault Soul_Slayer. I still sometimes get confused when it comes to English (Yes, I'm native Irish but that isn't where I was raised for most of me life) so it probably came off way stronger than I meant for it to be!

[Kaelis Ebonrai]

Easy people, easy, just please, calm down. =)

We'll try and sort this out, as rational adults, ok? =)

[SeV]

Hector the Hooded, on May 10 2007, 12:16 PM, said:

@ SeV - I don't give a crap ethier way about on-topic/off-topic! (I'm the king of offtopic!) but the little "comments" if you will, seem to be getting less and less subtle, and I really want this to be a friendly place for everyone!

Oh, and if someone felt like I was threatening them, or being blunt/rude it was just me!

Sometimes my English gets a bit mixed up\beffudeled!

I agree Hector, I understand why you said that, but I just don't want to make it seem like we're going to be closing down threads at the drop of a hat No worries my friend, have a beer on the house

The Raven Crown, on May 10 2007, 12:20 PM, said:

Welcome to the new home of the screenshot thread: The Great Screenshot Wars

Really, I have only been around in the very beginning and this last month and cannot take part in something I know nothing about, but I do have to ask that you refrain yourselves. Unless they raped your girlfriend or something bad like that, we can behave, eh?

Eh, no worries Raven... this thread has been very helpful and productive, and I"m glad everybody was able to get out their grievances in a mature and productive manner, for the most part. Better than keeping personal issues bottled up and then having it explode in an orgy of insults.

kalia, on May 10 2007, 12:23 PM, said:

And, after all, this is our place - if it doesn't work we can change again.

Couldn't have said it better myself Kalia

I'd like to direct your attentiont to this thread here: http://www.shsforums...showtopic=26513 please use it only to discuss the draft for the rules. If you'd like to continue discussing anything else that's bothering you, please do it here. Thanks everybody for being so calm, organized and collective. I think we're really going to make SHS flourish

for everyone

[Victoria]

I'd just like to say thanks to all who posted some nice comments about me above, also MystykStar I appreciate what you said in your post. I'll be the first to admit I'm rather quite when it comes to comments and general chatting and also my behaviour of late has been somewhat erratic, thanks for putting up with me.

[Kaelis Ebonrai]

@Floydian1: mate, you're doing fine, trust me. You've been participating, talking, commenting, like I've never seen you do before, in my time viewing the screenie threads, and, I thank you for it. =) Its always nice to see a man of few words getting involved in the discussions! =)