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#21
Posted 24 April 2007 - 08:34 AM
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Arath NPC - Nephele NPC - Xulaye NPC - Iylos NPC - Ninde NPC - Darian NPC - Yeslick NPC - Adrian NPC - Dace NPC - Valerie NPC - Isra NPC
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Haer'Dalis Romance
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#22
Posted 24 April 2007 - 09:23 AM
I've no pref for Multi/Dual or Single, but I voted for the former since it was less.
I'd not want a Fighter/Druid. But a Cleric/Thief is something I've not yet seen, and I would find it most intriguing. Even a Half-Orc Thief/Cleric could be fun. Though the fact that one of their buttons is pushed to the Special Abilities section is annoying.
I'd also prefer not a Fighter Cleric(Probably not even for Dwarf. Every Dwarf so far is a male fighter, we don't need a female fighter to add to it). Cleric Mage, well mayhaps for a Gnome.
Obviously a bard cannot Dual/Multi-Class.
PS. Yes I only specified on stuff that I wanted. (Cleric, Druid, Bard.) (Dwarf, Gnome, Halfling, Half-Orc)
Just some of my thoughts.
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#23
Posted 24 April 2007 - 09:35 AM
"Imagination is given to man to console him for what he is not; a sense of humor, for what he is." - Oscar Wilde
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#24
Posted 24 April 2007 - 10:03 AM
#25
Posted 24 April 2007 - 11:59 AM
"Imagination is given to man to console him for what he is not; a sense of humor, for what he is." - Oscar Wilde
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#26
Posted 24 April 2007 - 01:57 PM
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#27
Posted 24 April 2007 - 02:48 PM
#28
Posted 24 April 2007 - 03:01 PM
Sexy is definitely good. If that's all there is, there's no sense even bothering to play it, but without it, well, let's just say the game doesn't need a prude.
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#29
Posted 24 April 2007 - 03:08 PM
I think the coolest equal partner romances to get inspiration from might be the "classic" human ones, like When Harry Met Sally, or many of the older black & white movies - Casa Blanca, anyone? I would really enjoy an equal-partner-without-need-of-therapy-romance (I asked my wife if she wanted to be a computer mod, and she looked at me funny, so I am not going there any time soon!!!). Of course, berelinde, your, Domi's, and Kulyok's writing has tempted me enough to try the female protagonist role occasionally (though I find it tough to finish, and end up reading .D and .TRA files to put together the plotlines) - that's how I know it is possible to have the same level of romance, heartbreak, uplift, and actual discussion in a mod as you do in a good novel, with the added bonus of being able to interactively squish Dragons and Giant Spiders of Doom together. Contrasting that with the existing Bioware ones is rather unfair to Bioware (I am not the 15 year old male demographic), but we kinda have to, now; things have evolved!
I can't speak for the other romances beyond Bioware as I have only read about them and not tried to fully complete one. I *can* say that in my opinion there is a grand sight more dialogue and involvement with mature romance available to female protagonists than to male protagonists. I am hopeful for Taisha, and am starting that one now; then Amber (though I am still not sure - she is a Player2 only romance, right? I studied the code, but specifically for ideas and format, not really - perhaps play a Multiplayer game and pretend to be second-person).
#30
Posted 24 April 2007 - 03:30 PM
Amber is not *only* a Player2 romance, but she can be enjoyed that way. She'll romance your bhaalspawn pc just as happily as his buddy, player2. In fact, that isn't a bad way to really soak up the romance, if that's what you're into. You start a multiplayer game with 2 characters, then copy it from your multi-player saved game file into your single-player saved game file (you'll need to have already saved a game first to have the file available), then you carry on. I'd recommend doing that instead of playing in multiplayer mode, because ctrl-I doesn't work in multiplayer mode, and that's a useful tool to get all the banters. I was quite happily romancing Xan with my ranger pc and romancing Amber with a sorcerer Player 2. It was a lot of fun. Too bad she's SoA only.
Anyway, we'll see how it goes.
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#31
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:45 AM
Try a little of both?@Vilkacis, I don't know whether to be delighted or apalled!
But mostly delighted, I mean, just look at her. She's sooo cute. And green. How could anyone resist that?
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#32
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:47 AM
I'm not a modder, I don't know if I will be one day but I love to play this game again and again, I love romances and appart from Jaheira, Aerie or Viconia I can't play another Npc romance because of the ToB issue. What's the point of making a completely modded installation in order to play your npc romance (Fade, Amber are my favourite ones for now) and then be unable to continue? What do you do: keep lots of backups of previous saved games (with the WeiDu.log to know what mods you installed) and wait for mods to be done? I just can't. I respect modders at maximum, I just started writting a few lovetalks for Valasse and then realized that I should not continue without finishing my studies first, so I understand why the ToB part of most romance mods doesn't get finished.
But then we have male npc romances: Xan, Tsujatha, Edwin, Kelsey, Kivan... The first problem about romances was that female pcs didn't have any option appart from Anomen and now they have a wide spectrum to choose from. I'm most tempted to play as a female pc but I just end not being able to continue and as someone else said I read the .D files.
Sorry to be a little offtopic but I just had to pull it out.
I will also love to see Branwen in SoA and ToB. I loved Branwen romance in Npc project, and the idea of having her again is just whoaah!!! But if it can't be Branwen, or a Npc similar to her, I would also love to have a dwarven thief/cleric npc to have my romance with my human pc (even if it could be a little weird) if she is like Dorna from Never Winter Tales of Undrentida, I loved that girl. She is very well writteng and made me love dwarves.
To finish I just want to say that even if there are some weird romance options, or instead of saying weird I'd prefer to say unconventional, they are all the products of their modders illusion, hard work and time so they must be respected.
Nothing more for now, sorry for the long post.
Edited by Magnus_025, 25 April 2007 - 12:49 AM.
#33
Posted 25 April 2007 - 10:56 AM
As for race, human is kind of bog standard. But why settle for standard PC races even? People've made ghaunadan (slime) NPCs and who knows what else. I'm not talking about half-dragons etc., but I've thought something humanoid like a nymph or dryad would make a pretty cool NPC. Kind of like the druid spell, only she sticks around and talks . Plus I'm kind of partial to nymphs. Though it'd be kind of weird to have a duelist nymph. She'd probably have to be part druid at least, and we've already got a fighter/druid, but she could also be a ranger, cleric/ranger, druid/mage... even a fighter/mage/druid with a kit on one of those classes if you want to be really weird.
Nah. She's got uh... invisible barkskin armour. Yeah.She'd have to wear more clothing for her to be sensibly dungeon-ready, though.
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#34
Posted 25 April 2007 - 11:37 AM
As already mentioned I would like to see a well adjusted, cute, funny, intelligent somewhat shy/reserved character that takes some effort (not work) to successfully romance and get to open up. Add in a little spice and flirtations as the romance progresses, coupled with actual conversation/interaction after reaching the ?committed? stage for continued immersion. Vulnerabilities are good but so are strengths, as long as the character makes me feel like she?s my partner instead of a needy/psycho nut-job or worse.
To sum it all up I would want the ?romance? to feel like a journey with a character I?m attached to, not a quest; something that stirs my emotions like when I saw my wife coming towards me down the aisle on our wedding day.
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#35 -Domi_Ash-
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:18 PM
Although I can't speak to the vast mire of BG2 NPCs, in BG1 at least there seems to be a lack of female NPCs who can kick butt in the front ranks, unless you wanted someone like Shar-Teel.
I'm still mourning that Clifette din't finish her version of ST for BG2. It's an incredibly cool NPC, and vanilla BG2 does not have a combat-oriented female NPC....
#36
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:27 PM
Right. So, no pressure, then...To sum it all up I would want the ?romance? to feel like a journey with a character I?m attached to, not a quest; something that stirs my emotions like when I saw my wife coming towards me down the aisle on our wedding day.
I'll do what I can not to let anyone down.
Dunno about cleric. I'm writing one now, a male cleric of Lathander. It's currently available for Tutu, and I hope to have a BGT release soon through the beauty of a cross-platform installer that makes separate downloads for BGT and Tutu unnecessary. I've already started dribs and drabs of the BG2 portion, but I hope to really throw myself into it as soon as the Tutu/BGT version is out. After all that, I'm thinking that I might like something a little different.
So, some flavor of fighter or ranger is definitely a strong candidate.
But I'm not ruling anything out yet. Well, maybe Branwen. Yes, she deserves to be written, but I don't know if she's the NPC I want to write. The idea of combining beauty, strength, seductiveness, and goodness appeals to me. Branwen's probalby got the first three, but she's TN, and I want to write for a good character.
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#37
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:28 PM
*Sneeze*Mazzy*sneeze*Although I can't speak to the vast mire of BG2 NPCs, in BG1 at least there seems to be a lack of female NPCs who can kick butt in the front ranks, unless you wanted someone like Shar-Teel.
I'm still mourning that Clifette din't finish her version of ST for BG2. It's an incredibly cool NPC, and vanilla BG2 does not have a combat-oriented female NPC....
"She was a fire, and I had no doubt that she had already done her share of burning." - Lord Firael Algathrin
"Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." - Tanek of Cloakwood
we are all adults playing a fantasy together, - cmorgan
#38 -Domi_Ash-
Posted 25 April 2007 - 12:38 PM
#39
Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:35 PM
Fighter, mages.
Multi-class.
#40
Posted 25 April 2007 - 04:42 PM
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