24 replies to this topic

[Zyraen]

Just Curious

For those who have played before, can give some comments.
Those who have not can say Why they have not and What they're looking for in a Mod
Those who have played partially can say Where they stopped and Why they stopped.

Thanks!

Edited by K'aeloree, 13 February 2007 - 02:51 AM.

[Kaeloree]

I played BtL to the fight with Seida and a bit beyond, IIRC, but its a bit hazy now. As I recall, it was wonderfully written - loved the character development especially, just adored it. Love the way they slowly unfold during the course of the game, and how they change.

Though the dialogue did get confusing, at times, it was always interesting and informative. Sometimes it did feel more like prose than dialogue, which annoyed me a little, but it didn't stop me from loving it.

I really liked the scene with Kharen, though I wasn't about to give up Kova and guessed she was guilty from the evidence I'd collected and guessed about, I was actually a little tempted.

I can't wait to play it again, but I'll only do so when the ToB section is released, so...

[berelinde]

No, but I plan to, when I get back to playing again.

I started playing unmodified BG2, then added a couple mods, like Kelsey and Xan. Then I heard about EasyTutu and decided to try that . I got hooked on the BG1 NPC project, got sucked into Tutu modding, and haven't played BG2 in ages.

I plan to try it when I start doing research for my IEP contribution and for Gavin BG2.

Edited by BGhead, 13 February 2007 - 05:23 AM.

[ronin]

I started playing it and probably would have continued had not my installation gone to crap on me.

ronin

**edit**

call me an idiot, i deserve it. I didnt even see the option for partially till I already posted.

Edited by ronin69hof, 13 February 2007 - 04:22 AM.

[Kellen]

I voted no. When I realized it was out I had no BG install. I also don't like SoA only mods, if they have ToB coming. I wait for the ToB stuff.

[pro5]

It's on my list of mods to try, but I have little time to play atm.

[Fey]

I played it before, and I'll start a second run as soon as my exams are over.
I really enjoyed the quest and how the plot and the characters develop as the game proceeds. The talks deal with topics that weren't discussed over and over in several other mods yet, and I liked some of the 'sidekick talks', especially all the cooking stuff was really fun.
I can't say it often enough: I love the quest. It's really challenging, and for a change, you have to use your brains to eventually solve it. Extremely refreshing, though the BTL plot tends to dictate the way you have to play sometimes.

Fey

[Bookwyrme]

I plan to, but I keep test-running other NPC's & with BTL having to start so early & all...

[Myst]

Yes, I've played it, more times that I care to count.   I was an Alpha tester on this mod, so I played it over and over again.

I've just started another run through after a long break from the BG series and, so far, I'm enjoying it immensely (again).

This time, while enjoying the interplay between Kiyo and Kova, I'm also looking for any grammar errors, typos, etc that slipped between the cracks before this release.

[TheWizard]

It's on my list of mods to try, but I have little time to play atm.

Ditto. Not to worry, I will get around to BTL one of these days.

[Kulyok]

Partially. I tested it with Xan, since BTL, together with UB, is one of the two mods that play with AsylumPlot variable. I didn't proceed, though: I find that I'm unable to complete the game, if I don't feel comfortable with my party. So I reinstalled.

[Zyraen]

To my knowledge, BTL doesn't actually modify the AsylumPlot variable, though it does make use of it to evoke some NPC responses. From what I read it would seem that Kova and Kiyone make you feel uncomfortable, is that one of the reasons?

[Kulyok]

Strange: I definitely remember there was
SetGlobal("AsylumPlot","GLOBAL",something) there. I'm not hallucinating, really... I mean, I hope I don't... *downloading*

... Yes, you have more than one SetGlobal("AsylumPlot","GLOBAL",**), mostly in EXTEND_BOTTOM commands, where you add your own reactions. I was(and am) afraid it can lead to potential incompatibilities, if, say, another mod would like to set a variable then and there, and add it to all states, and BTL is installed afterwards.

When I say uncomfortable around the characters, I mean I didn't feel for them either way, and most importantly, I didn't get the impression that they cared about my PC either way, either - so we really couldn't do anything for each other. I don't think the writing is to blame, though - any faults I could name, Xan has the same ones in abundance.

[Zyraen]

OK I think I know which ones you are referring to... I believe they are Saemon Havarian, Slayer etc related settings, where by interjecting or whatsoever, the variable still has to be changed. Basically none of them are changed because of my mod, but just because I extended a Bioware response but still have to execute the commands to move the BG2 storyline onwards. And yes I understand that it might cause complications

Both Kova & Kiyone seem rather detached in some personality sense (except for when it comes to arguing), even in their PC Banters (esp the Slayer-related dialogue), so I understand your sentiments regarding them no trouble, I respect that.

[Galsic]

I also don't like SoA only mods, if they have ToB coming. I wait for the ToB stuff.

^I'm with him.^ Though I did try it out a little.

[Federico]

I played it once and it was very good,hope to see a Tob part at some time.
But maybe it would be a good idea to make a chance for PC to have more romantic feelings for her.I think it would make sense for the PC to help Kova and Kiyone so much,and it is much help with all the attacks of the Shadows and the cowled, if he he has romantic feelings for her ,even if he knows she loves Kova.Or for the female players the same with Kova.

Edited by Federico, 09 April 2007 - 08:10 AM.

[Suspiria]

I haven't played it yet, though I might when TOB content is released. I had been, back in the Chosen of Mystra days, keeping an eye on this mod, but after the whole exodus from COM to here, I lost sight of all the mods I was watching, because I had taken a short break from BGII while all that was going on, so when I came back to the game and the various forums, I didn't know where anything was anymore. Took me awhile to find out. lol

Anyway, I am curious about it, but reluctant, because I get the impression from the description that my PC might wind up feeling like a third wheel, and the description makes it sound like they couldn't give a rat's tail one way or the other that they are in a party lead by the half-divine child of an evil god who has serious problems and concerns of his/her own. My PCs always appreciate when their party members have concerns on some level about what they (the PC) are going through as they are 1) the child of a dead god, 2) have been hunted and betrayed at every turn 3) have to deal with a terrible taint in their very blood 4) are desperately searching for a way to rescue their beloved childhood friend/sister and might really be feeling her absence in a big way 5) have been brutally tortured and physically violated 6) are dealing with the terrible and brutal deaths of close friends and allies and the desire for revenge against the killer/torturer.

The description doesn't really give me much to go on as to how the twp NPCs feel about the PC and if they even feel anything about him/her at all. If I play the mod and find that they care nothing for her/him even as a friend or even foe and have little to say about all that the PC is experiencing and has experienced, I will feel frustrated and they will seem to my PC like horrible people indeed. I suppose to find out for certain, I will have to actually DL, install and play the mod. lol

[Zyraen]

1) the child of a dead god, 2) have been hunted and betrayed at every turn 3) have to deal with a terrible taint in their very blood 4) are desperately searching for a way to rescue their beloved childhood friend/sister and might really be feeling her absence in a big way 5) have been brutally tortured and physically violated 6) are dealing with the terrible and brutal deaths of close friends and allies and the desire for revenge against the killer/torturer.

Oh this they do. Kova is probably the Only NPC that I know of to actually ask you, how exactly is killing Irenicus going to give you your soul back? Since you probably don't have a laboratory like he does.. and is kililng Irenicus really a good idea anyway? If its your soul you want.

Kiyone is probably one of the few NPCs I know of that actually asks you, how would you like the party to deal with you when you're a Slayer? Run or try to kill / subdue you.

Both of them also ask if they expect to see more of the Slayer, if you intend to harness or banish it for good.

Anyway, their banters on the respective subjects are separate - Kova and Kiyone both talk to you independant of each other. Both being rather private individuals, they only start really buzzing you about it after the events become obviously affecting them - ie after they have been imprisoned by Irenicus.

Both also acknowledge that they heard of your heritage but chose to pass it off as myth tacked on by bards of your exploits, so to speak. Probably again, the only NPCs who actually are skeptical enough to do so. I for one do not understand why so many other NPCs accept your heritage as it is - if you were to tell them that prior to Spellhold, they'd probably just laugh it off, not believing in such stuff.

As for Imoen, Kiyone will comment it seems strange to leave her behind if you choose to do so, and volunteer to leave the party to make room for her.

As for you being hunted, Kova many many many times alludes to perhaps you should jus leave him behind and take care of your own problems, he doesn't add to your troubles. Among his first banters he also comments as to him being surprised about being in your fame, and how he does not understand why you do not try to be more discreet, or some meaning like that. I don't think many Mod NPCs actually say something like "You know, you're pretty famous to be travelling with," although Kova manages, in his special way, to make compliments sound less.. flattering.

Edited by Zyraen, 19 May 2007 - 10:07 AM.