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[kenteam]

Hello all.

Recently I have installed latest BGT-weidu(102f) and several weimer's mods, and got a problem.

When I tried to start a new game in SOA, after finishing the character creation, it displayed a black screen, and then the game crashed. (the game loading screen appeared a few seconds before the black screen)

However, new TOB and BG1 game can be started smoothly, and it also allow me to play my old SOA saves.

The installation order: (all are latest versions)
1.BG1(5512)
2.BG2(26498)
3.BG2 Fix Pack(G3)
4.Weimer-Ascension
5.BGT-Weidu
6.Weimer-Tactics
7.Weimer-Solaufein
8.Weimer-Valen
9.Weimer-ItemUpgrade

That's all. Then I tried to uninstall all the mods in reverse order, installed BGT again and tested the mod 1 by 1.
I skipped the fix pack this time. The 1st mod installed was Ascension(no Tougher Illasera), and the 2nd was Tactics. When Tactics is installed, it crashed again. So I think the problem may be caused by this mod.

Any one can help? Thanks.

[Ascension64]

Tactics has a really bad reputation of patching AR0602.ARE (Irenicus' Dungeon) by replacing specific parts of the file using hex patching. Hence, if a previous mod starts to add or remove chunks of AR0602.ARE, then Tactics patches the wrong parts of the file, corrupting it and causing a crash.

The thing is, only the Fixpack changes AR0602.ARE, which you omitted in your test. Try the following from your current position: uninstall Tactics and Ascension, then go to your override folder and rename AR0602.ARE to AR0602.BAK (if present), re-install Ascension and Tactics, then try a New BG2 game again.

[kenteam]

thx for the reply.

Now I uninstall Ascension and Tactics, and left only BGT-weidu mod.
I didn't find ar0602.are in the override(only AR0602.BCS) so I didn't do anything.

Then I installed Tactics again, ar0602.are appeared this time and the game crashed.
After that I renamed the ar0602.are to .bak and restarted a new SOA game and it goes normal this time!

Does it mean that the trouble is caused by Tactics?
However, I remembered in the old BGT-weidu version(0.x ), I also used this mod and it has no problems...

[Salk]

thx for the reply.

Now I uninstall Ascension and Tactics, and left only BGT-weidu mod.
I didn't find ar0602.are in the override(only AR0602.BCS) so I didn't do anything.

Then I installed Tactics again, ar0602.are appeared this time and the game crashed.
After that I renamed the ar0602.are to .bak and restarted a new SOA game and it goes normal this time!

Does it mean that the trouble is caused by Tactics?
However, I remembered in the old BGT-weidu version(0.x ), I also used this mod and it has no problems...

May I advice you to install Big Picture Wei-Du instead of Tactics ?

It's a much modern and comprehensive AI mod that is still updated (we're waiting for version 178 at the moment) and that should not give you such headaches...

[Ascension64]

So it is a Tactics problem in conjunction with whatever language/version of BG2:SoA you are using. Older version of BGT-WeiDU probably negated this problem because it provided its own version of AR0602.ARE. This no longer is the case. Hence, you might want to avoid using Tactics on BGT-WeiDU.

I bet you that if you installed Tactics as the only mod on BG2:SoA, it would still crash...

[kenteam]

Thx Ascension64 and Salk, now I give up tactics and try BP later

Edited by kenteam, 30 December 2006 - 05:13 AM.

[Azazello]

Tactics has a really bad reputation of patching AR0602.ARE (Irenicus' Dungeon) by replacing specific parts of the file using hex patching. Hence, if a previous mod starts to add or remove chunks of AR0602.ARE, then Tactics patches the wrong parts of the file, corrupting it and causing a crash.

FYI:
Only Improved Ilyich component touches AR0602. Avoid that component with BGT.

You can use [this Tactics TP2] - together with BP - to avoid conflicts between the two mods.