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[berelinde]

Because K'aeloree is off (hopefully) having a marvelous time on his vacation, here's a poll to see which NPCs could use more friendship content.

Sweet. I can have 3 questions with 20 choices per question, so I'll do first, second and third choices. Please remember that you should make all your selections before hitting "vote"

[berelinde]

I voted first choice for Imoen, because the girl stays with you through thick and thin and would do anything for you. There has to be a reason.

Second choice was Valygar, because he gets a bum deal. With a little more content, his patient, tolerant, accomodating personality could have been shown more clearly. I used to dislike him, but once I couldn't get Keldorn back after sending him to reconcile with Maria (usually I accompany him, and then show up before leaving for spellhold and ask him to rejoin, but this time it didn't work out that way), and I wound up having Valygar in the party the whole time. Got to know him a lot better, and it was *so* worth it. He's got some great stuff later in the game.

Third choice was for Minsc, for much the same reason as Imoen.

[Pixel Kaiser]

Imoen is my first choice and Minsc is my second choice. I voted for both of them for the same reason; much like what BGHead said, they're CHARMAME's old buddies and have been with him/her from basically the start. The game already basically suggests that the three of them are good pals (well, unless you roleplay a jackass, I guess) and having actual friendship paths would be nice.

For my third vote, I picked Haer 'Dalis. Seeing how he's my favorite BG2 NPC, I'm guessing this is a biased opinion (for shame!). Even so, I think that it would be really cool. Ole HD knows practically no one in the Prime Material Plane, and depends on CHARNAME quite a bit. I think they should form a bond there, with that information in mind. It'd be neat.

[Raven_Song]

1. Cernd
2. Valygar
3. Mazzy

The first two were chosen because I truly believe that out of all the NPC's they were the most neglected by Bioware, and with development could both be really great characters.

The third vote was much like Tameon's, purely biased.

Edited by Raven_Song, 27 December 2006 - 02:26 AM.

[Hide and Seek]

I voted for Imoen, Minsc and then Sarevok.
The reason? If we don't count Jaheira and Viconia from BG1, these people are your friends (and ally) in BG2, and at least Imoen and Minsc should have a friendship mod included, it would be great to be able to talk with them both, give Imoen a friendly hug or commend Minsc for his battle progress. Sarevok.. well, it would be interesting to start up a chat with him.

[GeN1e]

Imoen, Minsc, Sarevok. Jaheira have already got her portion of friendship/romance while those three - haven't. As Hide and Seek has mentioned they are Charname's closest friends (even Sarevok, after his change). Plus all of them were in BG1. Oh, and Vicky too.

[Mordokai]

Imoen, Valygar and Sarevok. Imoen is your sister and closest friend, who shares pretty much the same fate as you, there should be something more said about this then what we see in the game. Valygar... I just like him, his attitude and his character. And I believe there could be so much more to him than just simple I-hate-magic attitude of his. Sarevok tried to kill you once not so long ago, he is bound to bring that up once, and yet, he does not. I would like to see that corrected. The only problem with him would be that he needs two sorts of dialogues, one for his CE persona, and one for his CG. Plus, he's cool

[Kellen]

I think Mazzy and Haer'Dalis need more content.

[Neferit]

Valygar - I never have had him in group along with Mazzy, so no "squire-ing"

Sarevok - I've always wanted to chat with him, I adore his voice B) and imo some friendship is possible - he can redeem, right? So why not friendship with him, too?

Yoshimo (although make friendship with someone who betrays you is quite strange )

[Hide and Seek]

Sarevok - I've always wanted to chat with him, I adore his voice B) and imo some friendship is possible - he can redeem, right? So why not friendship with him, too?

This answer might come a little late, but really, there should be. They're two brothers of Bhaal (and maybe with a sister in tow), the Three who goes up against the Five. There should be alot to discuss with Sarevok about his former life, and what he learned about Bhaal during his war campaign.

Of course, where to find all this knowledge..

[Bookwyrme]

Yoshimo (although make friendship with someone who betrays you is quite strange )

Strange, maybe, but there's actually some implied already, in his comments and in some of the PC replies.

Besides, it ups the tragedy level.

[Crazee]

1) Imoen - pretty self-explanitory. Bioware didn't intend to have her after spellhold, so she was just kind of forgotten in terms of banters and interjections. She's quite an important part of the plot, so it would be nice to hear from her her experiences in Spellhold.

2) Nalia - What to say? She's not explored very much, and I think there's a great chance for a Friendship path with her. There's got to be more to her than, "I'm rich and love to help! Naivity isn't the half of it!"

3) Cernd - Same as everyone else who voted him. He barely has any content, and I want to better know my druid.

And of course I would have liked to vote for, well, every other NPC as well. The more content the better.

[VIIIofSwords]

Imoen - because she's family, both literally and figuratively. One would think, out of the entire cast, she'd be the one that would talk to you the most.

Cernd - the man needs to be fleshed out more. I'd really like to know why he left his wife, as the in-game explanation seems a little contrived. Not to mention what in the world could possibly have made him think leaving his son alone is a good idea.

Sarevok - always wondered what it would be like to know this guy better. There's so much stuff about him that hasn't been explored.

[My Anata]

Sarevok: As others have said before me, Sarevok is, after all, the PC's brother. In a way, he is even closer to the PC than Imoen because a) Not everyone -just the vast majority- buys into the whole "You've grown up together so you MUST be best friends" thing, b) The PC has been aware of their blood relation to Sarevok since the beginning, and c) Some people do not choose to bring Imoen along on their journey, whereas Sarevok is unavoidable in both games. He is even more versatile than Imoen in that he can potentially befriend any Charname whether you roleplay a good character or an evil one.

Yoshimo: It would certainly make the endless errand-running of chapters 2 and 3 go by faster. Also, it would make his betrayal so much more interesting and personal. Maybe some people don't enjoy duplicitous NPCs tagging along after them, but imho, they're part of what makes the game so immersive. Extra content here would be even better if stretched into a romance. (What can I say? I'm a masochistic fool. )

Minsc: Honestly, and it may seem silly, but I was always irked that he ignored my female-lawful good-aligned-spellcasting Charname and immediately asked Aerie (!) to be his new witch. This sometimes happened in the beginning of Chapter 2 when they had only known each other for three days! Sorry, but after all the time he may -or, to be fair, may NOT- have spent at Charname's side, I find it infuriating that Bioware made him into yet another Avariel-coddling NPC. Thank the gods for Korgan!

[Badgert]

I think Haer'Dalis, Mazzy and Korgan need more content.

[Eleima]

My votes were the following:
1) Yoshimo: he's the perfect tragic figure, in my opinion. He's the guy who really isn't all that bad, but still gets stuck with doing the evil deeds (or in the case, deed). His betrayal would make a friendship track all the more poignant. Also, you could try and flesh out a lot of things about him. I'm mainly thinking of his devotion to Ilmater. One of my favorite banters with Yoshimo is one Kulyok wrote, a banter in which Yoshimo grudgingly tells Xan that he worships the Crying God. I think that spin has a lot of potential. There's also the fact that he comes from Kara-Tur, that could be explored as he swaps childhood stories with the PC. Anyways, I think he has a lot of potential.

2) Imoen: pretty much for the same reasons that have already come up. She's yourchildhood buddy turned sister, she's been there since day one, she's been kidnapped, then rescued by the PC. 'Nuff said.

3) Anomen: I'm going to get bludgeoned in the head by all the Anomen haters, but he has potential as more than your classic knight in shining armor fiancé, in my opinion. His entire background, growing up with Lord Cor, his relationship with Moira, life as a squire in the Order, his faith in Helm... He has potential, as Silrana's fanfic Canon showed.


Great poll, by the way!

Edited by Eleima, 14 August 2009 - 07:11 AM.

[Kaeloree]

We actually do have a Yoshimo friendship, written by the illustrious Shadowhawke.

[Eleima]

We actually do have a Yoshimo friendship, written by the illustrious Shadowhawke.

I know, I know, I'm so ashamed, but it's on my "to play" list... Believe me or not, but I haven't played through a BG2 game in *months*. But yup, it's downloaded and waiting for me!

[Cal Jones]

The Yoshimo friendship is good - definitely give it a go. (Although I must admit I am really looking forward to the Keeping Yoshimo mod so I can have him for the whole game!)
Is anyone working on an Imoen friendship? Given that Bioware never gave her any banters, she needs it badly.

[Kaeloree]

Out of all the things I could do for IEP, the Imoen friendship is the one I want to do the most... unfortunately, right now my time is extremely limited. Perhaps next year?