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#1 lroumen

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 02:55 AM

Hello everyone.

I have played BG and BG2 a long time using singular Weidu mods and I have played a previous versions of the Big Picture. A few days ago I wanted to re-live the whole BG fun and I installed the BGT-BP megamod (for most part). I am uncertain whether this is a BP error or a BGT error, hence I post here, the place where I found the installation protocol.


I started a new BG1 game (edit: from BG2 of course) as a Bard (Troubadour I believe, TDD kit) and started venturing the standard Chapter 1 and 2 bits with a few minor sidequests, side trips. After playing towards Nashkell I noticed that some of my Function keys became unresponsive. When I clicked any of the party formations they changed from the shown formation to the lineair side-by-side formation. The spellcasting buttons worked, but the quickspell slots could not be changed via right-clicking.
Linear side-by-side formation
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After some trying in-game I found a temporal solution, namely, when I go to the inventory screen and back to the game screen I have about 1 minute where the function keys do respond to my calls and I can reset party formations and the quickspell slots into something else. However, after a little while the bug arises again and party formation becomes stuck again (sometimes flipping to lineair side-by-side as above) and the quickspell slots cannot be accessed by rightclicking anymore.

Other than this I did not find anything bad or even any game inconsistencies. I hope someone can help me with this problem or point me to the people who may.

Cheers

Luc.



Added information:
I did some searching in the forums but I could not find any bug reports on party formation keys or quickslots being unresponsive.

During the install everything for NEJ, CtB, RoT, NTotSC and SoBH was skipped. No additional mods were installed. All installation files were taken from direct links in the Megamod download thread, except for the TotSC5512 and TOB26498 patches which were retrieved from the Bioware website.

Performed steps. (Edited for typos)
0. Full BGII SOA+TOB+26498 patch (and BG1+ToTSC+5512 patch or BG Original Saga if installing BGT)
1. BG2 fixpack v1
2. - NEJ skipped
3. SoS v1.11 , TDD v1.11 , Tortured Souls for BP v6.09. in this order.
4. Baldur's Gate Trilogy v1.02
5. Dark Side of the Sword Coast v1.85
6. - NTotSC... skipped
7. - SoBH... skipped
8. - No other mods... skipped.
9. Big Picture v177
10. BG2 Tweaks v3
11. DEFJAM XP fixer v3
12. BP-BGT Worldmap v6.3

Added text from: Weidu.log
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #102 // Cromwell's Forging Actually Takes a Day
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #105 // Additional Hero Quests in Trademeet Wait Until   Hero is Officially Named
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings,   Dwarves, and Gnomes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers   and Stalkers
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Over Soubar, v1.11
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Remorhaz walking speed adjustment (for ENGLISH version .EXE ONLY!!!)
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Darkest Day,  v1.11
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #1 // TDD Character Kits
~SETUP-TS-BP.TP2~ #0 #0 // TORTURED SOULS v6.09 (BP Compatible Version)
~BGT/SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core 1.02
~SETUP-DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // DSotSC for BGT-Weidu v1.85 Mod
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #0 // Big Picture AI/Enhancement Mod, version 177 weidu (beta)
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Suldanessallar
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Spellhold
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wand of Orcus Add-In
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Small Teeth Pass, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Kangaxx Encounter, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Random Encounters, by Gebhard Blucher and Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #9 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #10 // Red Badge, Poison-Based Encounter, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #11 // Kuroisan the Acid Kensai, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #12 // The Ritual, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Xvart Village, for BGT-weidu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #15 // Ascension for BP
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Change Nalia's Avatar to Thief
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #80 // Restore SoA Load Screen Logo (ToB Only)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Kick-out Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1130 // Reputation Resets in BG2 (BGT Only)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1140 // Gems and Potions Require Identification
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1180 // Female Edwina
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2151 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> No Restrictions
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // ToB-Style NPCs
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Revised worldmap for the Baldur's Gate - including coloured Baldur's Gate map icons -> Installing new Worldmap for use with Mega Modification
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #2 // Use new worldmap for Throne of Bhaal as well
~SETUP-GUI.TP2~ #0 #5 // Game Graphical User Interface (GUI) -> "Baldur's Gate Trilogy" (Elminster wielding sword)

Edited by lroumen, 20 November 2006 - 03:00 AM.


#2 Azazello

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 07:33 PM

Could it be that you're using a wireless mouse/keyboard? IF so, check this post:
http://forums.pocket...40.html#msg2940

I would be thoroughly shocked if BGT/BP/or any other mod is interfering with the game interface.

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#3 lroumen

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:06 AM

I'm using an optical Logitech RX300 mouse hooked up by a cord, so I do not think that could be a problem.

I'm quite puzzled myself. I never had this problem with the older versions of Big Picture, but I must say that I have never used BGT before. I've always used tutu up til now.

Edited by lroumen, 21 November 2006 - 12:07 AM.


#4 Azazello

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:26 AM

Again, if it is BP +/- BGT +/- some other mod that's affecting the GUI that way, I will believe that pigs can truly fly.

Barring someone coming along and proving that, yes, it is a mod's fault, Let's be daring and say there's something very moderne on your system that doesn't play nice with an eight-year old game.

Did you install the software that comes with the mouse? Is it absolutely necessary for operating it? If you're willing, try unistalling it and see if the game operates correctly. No guarantee, but it's a start.

#5 seanas

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 01:16 AM

this isn't caused by BP.

what it is caused by i don't know - i'd be going with azazello's keyboard/mouse suggestions (check the bioware site, too: they list a number of keyboard and mouse drivers that are flaky with BP) - but it's categorically neither BP nor BGT.

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#6 lroumen

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 01:41 AM

Thank you for the suggestions. As soon as bioware gets back online I will have a search there.

I still have BG1 installed without any mods so tonight I will also check whether these strange things occurs without BP/BGT installed.

#7 lroumen

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:36 AM

Well, the verdict is that the problem does not occur with BG/TotSC vanilla, but it does occur with BG2/TOB vanilla as well as BGT/BP. I tried several times to uninstall the mouse, but it basically had no effect. I guess I'll just cope with it for now.

#8 Oldwolf

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 10:24 AM

Well, the verdict is that the problem does not occur with BG/TotSC vanilla, but it does occur with BG2/TOB vanilla as well as BGT/BP. I tried several times to uninstall the mouse, but it basically had no effect. I guess I'll just cope with it for now.


Since it occurs with BG2/TOB vanilla and the BP+BGT use the BG2 game interface there is your problem. The mouse driver deffinately doesn't like the BG2 interface. I would suggest going to the Mouse manufactures website and checking for an upgraded/alternate driver for your mouse.