28 replies to this topic

[erebusant]

Surely i cant be the only one with this problem, ive read that there used to be a problem with 2 Yoshimo's appearing but that was fixed, maybe the same technique can work here?

having imoen in the party when she's supposed to be taken kills the storyline.

Could you post your WeiDU log please?

[seanas]

this is a RoT related issue. there's a fix, i believe, in the RoT forums (but i don't know what it is )

[erebusant]

You have the RoTerror Update installed so that shouldn't be the issue. Try the latest install order in the pinned thread with BGT 1st, then BG2 Fixpack and be aware that NEJ is no longer tested, with Mega-Install using BG2 Fixpack. It may or may not work properly. I think there is somebody out there guinea pigging their install to see how it does, but I haven't heard anything back on it yet.

Edited by erebusant, 04 October 2006 - 04:57 AM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Please,

i have also this BUG with my installation (signature) ... could someone point me to a fix? Don't tell me to re-install everything 'cause i simply can't another time Basically i can't afford time to begin again (this game is gonna be played since 5 months, ok ... i know ... i don't have much spare time lately )
After irenicus' capture i still have Immy in my party (2 were present during cutscene)

It should be related with NEJ continuos kit, whatever i can do i'm ready to fix this problem ... i still have a save before the cutscene of course

Thanks in advance,

mm75

[Golden Thief]

This is really one of those things that should be tracked down.

Do just have the kit or do you also have NEJ installed? Reason I ask is because I have gotten two Imoens when another mod over writes IC, the exiting to Athkatla and again at Spellhold. NEJ changes these areas. I'm wondering is it a doubling of the spawning for Imoen or is it because of two different names.

Check the BCS for the areas and see if there is a spwaning of Imoen done twice in your install.

[melkor_morgoth75]

I will thanks, my guess is that the kit create another Immy ... that's why we got 2 different girls ... but could you kindly let me know what should i check and eventually change?

anyway i just have the kit installed (you can look the mods i have in the other post i speak about this problem), i don't have NEJ installed at all,

mm75

[Golden Thief]

Ok what I'm going to have to do is make an install of BGT with the Imoen kit, so I can see the names because (I did have this right once) I think if you look at your save game you don't lose Imoen2 but gain Imoen10 and you need to keep the same one, so what needs to happen is Imoen2 gets changed to Imoen10 and then destroyed. This doesn't happen because the lines are missing for the conversion.

So then, if I read you correctly,you have two in the cut scene as you transfer to CI.
Then have two Imoens at the cells in CI.
And you will most likely have two Imoens as you exit into Athkatla and one will be taken.


PS: As I'm looking at the Setup-BGT.tp2 it has a check to looks for the Imoen kit and makes an adjustment. So did you install the Imoen kit before or after BGT was installed if so then it looks like the BCS files for the cut scene, etc did not get altered as they should thus two Imoens.

Here is the area from my AR0602.BCS that affects Imoen compare it with yours and see if changing it helps.
Remember backup your AR0602.BCS.

IF
OnCreation()
InMyArea("Imoen")
Global("hf_Destroy_Imoen","GLOBAL",0)
Global("ImoenPartyBG1","GLOBAL",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("hf_Destroy_Imoen","GLOBAL",1)
ActionOverride("Imoen",DestroySelf())
Continue()
END

IF
OnCreation()
Global("NewGame","AR0602",0)
Global("ENDOFBG1","GLOBAL",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetCursorState(TRUE)
FadeToColor([1.0],0)
SmallWait(10)
StartMovie("SOAINTRO")
SetGlobal("ENDOFBG1","GLOBAL",2)
SetGlobal("NewGame","AR0602",1)
Continue()
END

IF
OnCreation()
Global("NewGame","AR0602",0)
Global("ENDOFBG1","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetCursorState(TRUE)
FadeToColor([1.0],0)
SmallWait(10)
MoveViewPoint([0.0],INSTANT)
StartMovie("SOAINTRO")
SetGlobal("NewGame","AR0602",1)
SetGlobal("ENDOFBG1","GLOBAL",2)
Continue()
END

IF
XP(Player1,1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
AddXPObject(Player1,88999)
Continue()
END

IF
Global("ImoenImport","GLOBAL",0)
Global("ImoenPartyBG1","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("ImoenImport","GLOBAL",1)
ReallyForceSpellRES("BGIMPORT","Imoen2") // No such index
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("Imoen",OVERRIDE))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("",GENERAL))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("wtasight",DEFAULT))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("SBTIMO",RACE))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",SetDialog("Imoen10"))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",SetNumTimesTalkedTo(0))
Continue()
END

IF
Global("ImoenImport","GLOBAL",0)
Global("ImoenPartyBG1","GLOBAL",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("ImoenImport","GLOBAL",2)
CreateCreature("Imoen10",[3198.2837],6) // Imoen
SetGlobal("SPRITE_IS_DEADIMOEN2","GLOBAL",0)
SetGlobal("SPRITE_IS_DEADIMOEN","GLOBAL",0)
Continue()
END

EDIT:
PS: I just looked over the tp2 for installing the Imoen kit and everything is there that should change all the areas for the kit to work properly and for there not to be two Imoens. check the SETUP-GIRLS&BOO.DEBUG file and see if everything got installed. The only thing would be is if you installed it first and then BGT and it doubled the adjustments for some reason. If not the only thing left is what other mod altered the files.

Edited by Golden Thief, 10 December 2006 - 02:33 PM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

I have to check those values, but the script involved should be TELE0700.bcs which then point then to CUT01.bcs script (if i remember correct).

I've modified actually TELE0700.bcs poiting it to BGTCUT01.bcs if Imoen is continuos. I had to extract BGTCUT01 from BGT directory cause it was a baf file.

With those changes Imoen appear just once and it should be correct. Now i don't know what Imoen i will find after Spellhold, i let you know.

I don't have the "new" TELE0700.bcs modified here at work now, i post it eventually if i see that it's correct.

mm75

PS: i'm a bit surprised that modders seem to have no interest about this issue

Edited by melkor_morgoth75, 13 December 2006 - 11:55 PM.

[Vlad]

Step by step you approach the same problem I encountered before. It's needless to say that I've solved this problem in NeJ2 and further in NeJ2-BGT. That is why I have no interest about this issue anymore.

Edited by Vlad, 14 December 2006 - 01:12 AM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Step by step you approach the same problem I encountered before. It's needless to say that I've solved this problem in NeJ2 and further in NeJ2-BGT. That is why I have no interest about this issue anymore.

I know you won't support any kind of installation but "yours" (i was referring to other modders supporting BP+BGT actually ). Anyway, may be could you share with us the solution Vlad please?

mm75

[Vlad]

My solution to this problem is smart handling of NEWGAME, AR0602, TELE0700, CUT01 and AR1512 scripts (including order of installation of the mods) taking into account all present and future modifications to these scripts. When you have more than three mods modified these scripts and you have no idea about future modifications which would also modify these scripts, the solution for this problem becomes really tedious.

Edited by Vlad, 14 December 2006 - 03:06 AM.

[melkor_morgoth75]

My solution to this problem is smart handling of NEWGAME, AR0602, TELE0700, CUT01 and AR1512 scripts (including order of installation of the mods) taking into account all present and future modifications to these scripts. When you have more than three mods modified these scripts and you have no idea about future modifications which would also modify these scripts, the solution for this problem becomes really tedious.

Sorry but it says nothing to BG players who needs to solve the issue but that we can't play ... just first guess reading your post mate

mm75

[Golden Thief]

melkor_morgoth75
Since you got rid of one correctly, it will also be interesting to see if you get the correct one only, two again or last but not least the wrong one.
Here to seeing what you get.

[melkor_morgoth75]

melkor_morgoth75
Since you got rid of one correctly, it will also be interesting to see if you get the correct one only, two again or last but not least the wrong one.
Here to seeing what you get.

Yep i left at home (again sorry ) what i changed, i hope to be able to post it tomorrow. I don't know honestly if i kept the correct one. I'm not a modder just because i don't have time to work with mods and tools associated (hopefully as a hobby in future? ) so i don't know if the change i made is correct.

As far as i remember the one that remain should be Imoen2 ... But, as i said earlier, i don't know if she is the correct one. I have to check it when i get her again in spellhold (when i have time to play again? )

mm75

[melkor_morgoth75]

Here is what i've done to solve the "double imoen" issue:

added to tele0700.bcs the following check:

IF
Clicked([ANYONE])
Range(LastTrigger,25)
Global("ImoenPartyBG1","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SaveGame(0)
MultiPlayerSync()
FadeToColor([1.0],0)
TakePartyItem("MISC4E")
TakePartyItem("MISC4G")
StartCutSceneMode()
StartCutScene("cut01BGT")
END


Cut01bgt was under BGT/something in my game folder (i think ascension64 could be more specific here) but i had to extract it as .bcs file.

Here is what it likes:

IF
True()
THEN
RESPONSE #100
CutSceneId(Player1) //
LeaveAreaLUAPanic("AR0700","",[2753.868],4)
LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2753.868],4)
ActionOverride(Player2,LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2805.882],4))
ActionOverride(Player3,LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2791.820],4))
ActionOverride(Player4,LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2764.788],2))
ActionOverride(Player5,LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2781.716],0))
ActionOverride(Player6,LeaveAreaLUA("AR0700","",[2763.668],0))
Wait(1)
Explore()
MultiPlayerSync()
SetGlobal("EnteredWaukeen","AR0700",1)
TextScreen("SCENE01")
ActionOverride("Imoen2",LeaveParty())
ActionOverride("Imoen2",SetDialogue("IMOEN2"))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("",DEFAULT))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",DestroyItem("IMOENHP1")) // ~Imoen's Belt~
ActionOverride("Imoen2",SetNumTimesTalkedTo(0))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",ChangeAIScript("IMOEN2",OVERRIDE))
ActionOverride("Imoen2",GivePartyAllEquipment())
ActionOverride("Imoen2",MoveGlobal("AR1512",Myself,[1857.1520]))
CreateCreature("CSIMOEN",[2732.831],2) // ~Imoen~
CreateCreature("CSIREN",[2557.935],0) // ~Mage~
CreateCreature("CSTHIEF1",[2740.1009],6) // ~Assassin~
CreateCreature("CSTHIEF2",[2678.1043],6) // ~Assassin~
CreateCreature("CSTHIEF3",[2579.1075], // ~Assassin~
CreateCreature("CSTHIEF4",[2488.1078],10) // ~Assassin~
CreateCreature("CSGAYL",[2671.1101],6) // ~Assassin~
CreateCreature("AMNG1",[2736.1260],0) // ~Amnish Soldier~
SmallWait(1)
MoveViewPoint([2576.908],INSTANT)
DayNight(DAWN_END)
FadeFromColor([40.0],0)
StartCutScene("cut01a")
END

It's that script that is triggered instead of "normal" cut01.bcs after you leave irenicus dungeon.

Imoen then appears just once and she disappears after the Cowled wizards' dialogue.

I repeat, i'm not a modder (simply i don't have time, but i'm confortable with scripting, network,etc due to my work ... let's say i'm an advanced user ) so i don't know if this solves correctly the issue. I still have to see what (if) Imoen i will have after spellhold,

hope this helps,

mm75

[Vlad]

Please check that Imoen in your party has the script variable *Imoen2* in this case. I mean check it through the script, but also see what you have in your saved game.

Also please check the value of the variable Global("ImoenPartyBG1","GLOBAL",?) in your saved game.

After the cutscene is over, please jump to AR1512 and see if the second Imoen is properly destroyed.

Edited by Vlad, 17 December 2006 - 12:01 AM.