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[UnholyAngel]

In my last install, I got a CTD,when I tried to level my F/M/Lorekeeper of Ogma up, as soon as I reached the HLA-Levels. I suspect this was due to Refinment. I know it is stated that this causes problems, but is there any way to manualy assign a HLA-table to such a combination or is there another workaround?

Edited by UnholyAngel, 18 September 2006 - 03:50 PM.

[the bigg]

I don't think there's a way around this, sorry. Also, don't cheat and report bugs

[Eric P.]

I'd rather see that there is no possibility of using a kit with a multiclass character anyway. That's always the way my gaming friends and I have played. Better still would be the ability to play BGII games using 3.5e rules, but I realize that's not likely to ever be possible.

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[Miloch]

I'd rather see that there is no possibility of using a kit with a multiclass character anyway. That's always the way my gaming friends and I have played. Better still would be the ability to play BGII games using 3.5e rules, but I realize that's not likely to ever be possible.

Technically, the engine allows you to kit a multiclass character (with one kit) so I dunno if it's "illegal." So does the Level 1 NPCs mod for that matter. As for 3.5e rules, BG has always used 2e rules which are quite stable (and better IMHO) but we needn't get into that here, as there are plenty of other threads for that discussion on this forum and others.

[the bigg]

It's not possible to achieve this without game editors (it can't even be made possible by game mods).

[Miloch]

It's not possible to achieve this without game editors (it can't even be made possible by game mods).

Kit a multiclass with one kit? Even a F/M/C? I've done it with Level 1 NPCs. Oh, if you're talking about PCs, it only works on NPCs currently, but they level up just the same (and it even has a deprecated component to mod exported PCs, but it's quirky and deprecated for that reason).

[the bigg]

You can't make a mod that allows you to select that directly in-game.

And, no matter how much you try to discuss semantics, I don't know how to, nor have any interest in fixing this bug.

[Eric P.]

I'd rather see that there is no possibility of using a kit with a multiclass character anyway. That's always the way my gaming friends and I have played. Better still would be the ability to play BGII games using 3.5e rules, but I realize that's not likely to ever be possible.

Technically, the engine allows you to kit a multiclass character (with one kit) so I dunno if it's "illegal." So does the Level 1 NPCs mod for that matter. As for 3.5e rules, BG has always used 2e rules which are quite stable (and better IMHO) but we needn't get into that here, as there are plenty of other threads for that discussion on this forum and others.

Interesting POV, and yes, threads undoubtedly abound elsewhere, so...all I'll add is that, IIRC, 2E PnP games didn't allow an MC character to take a kit, as it was special enough for a character to MC (and back then, humans were sadly not allowed to MC).

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[Caedwyr]

Gnomes had to select Illusionist if they were taking a F/M combination.

[Miloch]

Gnomes had to select Illusionist if they were taking a F/M combination.

Right, but I think Guest's point was it's a legal "multiclass kit" combo, whereas the bigg's point was that all multiclass kits are illegal. And no, I wasn't the "Guest" in case anyone's wondering, though it looks like the sort of comment I'd make.

Edit: And that really should have occurred to me already anyway, since in my "Gnomes" mini-mod, I'd already adjusted all gnome mages to be illusionists if they weren't already, since that's the only legal mage kit for them.

Edited by Miloch, 01 January 2008 - 06:41 PM.

[Caedwyr]

It was my understanding that the game treats multiclasses more as separate classes than as some sort of ClassA + ClassB amalgamation. In which case, I'd guess that it would be more of a Illusionist/Thief class rather than a kitting of the Mage class in the multiclass combo.