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[Raison D'Etre]

How about compatibility issue posted by seanas on Dec 14 2005 in this topic? Was it fixed? Or its not a big problem and can be ignored.

[erebusant]

How about compatibility issue posted by seanas on Dec 14 2005 in this topic? Was it fixed? Or its not a big problem and can be ignored.

My understanding is there are only a few minor inconsistencies with animations between CtB and NEJ2, so it should be just fine.

[Raison D'Etre]

erebusant, that thing with "50th level experience ruleset" really bothers me. Do I need to reach this level because the megainstall gets very difficult by the end of the game or it's been done to make the game easier?
And if it just makes game easier, can I reinstall Refinements with their original 41st level ruleset and use my saves? I'm already at ~level 6.

[ronin]

erebusant, that thing with "50th level experience ruleset" really bothers me. Do I need to reach this level because the megainstall gets very difficult by the end of the game or it's been done to make the game easier?
And if it just makes game easier, can I reinstall Refinements with their original 41st level ruleset and use my saves? I'm already at ~level 6.

With the mega install there are alot more quests to do hence more experience. If you find the game too easy on normal (core rules) pump it up a level or use DefJam located at PPG to cut down on some of the experience rewarded for quests, creatures, locks/traps and spells.

ronin

[Raison D'Etre]

Thank you, Ronin, I'll do as you suggested.

[ronin]

Thank you, Ronin, I'll do as you suggested.

Try playing the mega install with DefJAM.... 25% quests exp, 25% creature exp, 10% traps/locks exp and no exp for spells. It makes it a real challenge in BG1 with rules set on hard.

ronin

[Raison D'Etre]

Thank you, Ronin, I'll do as you suggested.

Try playing the mega install with DefJAM.... 25% quests exp, 25% creature exp, 10% traps/locks exp and no exp for spells. It makes it a real challenge in BG1 with rules set on hard.

ronin

Oh, no, thanks I'm not that advanced. I'll just stick to the riginal core rules and no exp limiting mods and if game gets too easy I raise difficulty level.

Can somebody explain me in two words what is the difference between Tutu 50th ruleset and those of TDD or Bp? And why the one is preferred over another. Thanks.

[seanas]

Can somebody explain me in two words what is the difference between Tutu 50th ruleset and those of TDD or BP? And why the one is preferred over another. Thanks.

by Tutu's level 50 ruleset, you mean the one that's now in BG2 Tweaks? there's no functional difference between BG2 Tweaks' level 50 ruleset and BP's, TDD's or RoT's level 50 rulesets. if you've got one installed, the other mods should skip installing it.

[Raison D'Etre]

Can somebody explain me in two words what is the difference between Tutu 50th ruleset and those of TDD or BP? And why the one is preferred over another. Thanks.

by Tutu's level 50 ruleset, you mean the one that's now in BG2 Tweaks? there's no functional difference between BG2 Tweaks' level 50 ruleset and BP's, TDD's or RoT's level 50 rulesets. if you've got one installed, the other mods should skip installing it.

According to erebusant, Refinements will overwrite TDD 51st ruleset with it's own - 41st level ruleset. Thats why he provided us with workarounds to keep 51st intact. And he insisted taking one from tutuweaks and not from TDD. Thats why i thought there is a difference between them.
And yes - this is the one in BG2 Tweaks.

[erebusant]

Can somebody explain me in two words what is the difference between Tutu 50th ruleset and those of TDD or BP? And why the one is preferred over another. Thanks.

by Tutu's level 50 ruleset, you mean the one that's now in BG2 Tweaks? there's no functional difference between BG2 Tweaks' level 50 ruleset and BP's, TDD's or RoT's level 50 rulesets. if you've got one installed, the other mods should skip installing it.

According to erebusant, Refinements will overwrite TDD 51st ruleset with it's own - 41st level ruleset. Thats why he provided us with workarounds to keep 51st intact. And he insisted taking one from tutuweaks and not from TDD. Thats why i thought there is a difference between them.
And yes - this is the one in BG2 Tweaks.

I took it from Tutu Tweaks because all of the other .2da files got biffed in the process of my install so I couldn't find them anywhere. The one in Tutu Tweaks was convenient and (most critically) it actually worked. I tried it with other .2da files from other mods that went up to 50th level, and got the type of errors at the begining of the game that I described in the workaround.

[Raison D'Etre]

erebusant: little question if you don't mind. In workaround you suggested to multiply the highest exp value by number of kits you are playing so advancement will not be stopped. As i understood - when character reaches its possible 51 level and stop advancing, it will still get exp points. I dont exactly know how this system works in BG after one of carachters is reaching it's limit. Are exp points shared between carachters that didnt reach limit yet or still between all 6 of them? And for this reason , for example i want only dual Imoen to mage at thief level 6, shoud i just combine 51st level mage exp
and 6th level thief and and put this value in the XPCAP.2DA file?

[erebusant]

erebusant: little question if you don't mind. In workaround you suggested to multiply the highest exp value by number of kits you are playing so advancement will not be stopped. As i understood - when character reaches its possible 51 level and stop advancing, it will still get exp points. I dont exactly know how this system works in BG after one of carachters is reaching it's limit. Are exp points shared between carachters that didnt reach limit yet or still between all 6 of them? And for this reason , for example i want only dual Imoen to mage at thief level 6, shoud i just combine 51st level mage exp
and 6th level thief and and put this value in the XPCAP.2DA file?

XP are shared between all characters in the party. Dependent on how long a character is in your party will determine how many XP they get. You could have a party member maxed out and any others not at the limit will still accumulate XP. For a dual-class character, just double the limit. What you suggest for Imoen will work, but be certain you aren't running a multi-class character as they will be limited due to both (or all) classes accumulating XP and having them distributed evenly.

[erebusant]

I think I may have a little problem.
My Mega Installation (following the instructions on the 1st post) was going flawlessly until after step 85 (installation of ?the bigg?s? Refinements + level 40 cap tweak).

I followed by installing the DEFJAM_v3.exe and then problems started!: I have tons of errors that popped when I choose to modify the XP from the quests (modification to the XP from creatures and traps/spells didn't induce errors).
The errors are mostly:
"this expression has a typo in the second part: *Global*("","")"

Any one has an idea on what might have happened? What should I do next without hosing my previous smooth install?

Thanks for the help!

Oups. forgot to attach my Weidu.log:
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-NEJ2BIFFER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Biffing NeJv4.2 files. Run this INSTEAD OF Setup-NeJ2.exe! Run Setup-NeJ2.exe FIRST to uninstall!
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Never Ending Journey v4.2 - Part 1
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #1 // Continuous and Custom Kit Imoen
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #2 // Priest of Sylvanus (Druid) Kit and Improved Character Jaheira.
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #3 // Boo - Minsc?s Familiar
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Nymph (Woodland Being) Script by Goeran Rimen
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #5 // Restored Twisted Rune Quest
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #6 // Dual Wielding Fix for Rogues by aVENGER
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #7 // Never Ending Journey v4.2 - Part 2
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #8 // Melora NPC - Chaotic-Neutral Halfling Swashbuckler
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #9 // Leina NPC - True-Neutral Half-Elf Bard Of Melody
~SETUP-NEJ2.TP2~ #0 #10 // Areas & Sounds
~SETUP-NEJGUI.TP2~ #0 #0 // GUI registrar for Never Ending Journey
~SETUP-NEJ2V602.TP2~ #0 #0 // Never Ending Journey v6.02 (cummulative patch)
~SETUP-NEJ2V602.TP2~ #0 #2 // Animations Compatibility Fix for "Tortured Souls"
~SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldurdash Fix Pack for ToB, v1.5 WeiDU
~SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2~ #0 #1 // Textupdatepack -> Baldurdash English Text Update Pack for ToB, v1.4 WeiDU
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Over Soubar, v1.11
~SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Remorhaz walking speed adjustment (for ENGLISH version .EXE ONLY!!!)
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Darkest Day, v1.11
~SETUP-TDD.TP2~ #0 #1 // TDD Character Kits
~SETUP-CTB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Check The Bodies, v1.8
~SETUP-CTB-CHORES.TP2~ #0 #0 // Candlekeep Chores, v2.0
~SETUP-TS-BP.TP2~ #0 #0 // TORTURED SOULS v6.04.02 (BP Compatible Version)
~SETUP-ROT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Region Of Terror, v2.0
~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core 1.01
~SETUP-BGTNEJ2.TP2~ #0 #0 // BGT-NeJ2 Compatibility Patch
~SETUP-BGTNEJ2.TP2~ #0 #1 // Custom Portraits For Imoen and Jaheira
~SETUP-BGTNEJ2.TP2~ #0 #2 // Boo - Minsc's Familiar Fixes
~SETUP-BGTNEJ2.TP2~ #0 #3 // Custom Firewalker Kit and continuity for Shar-Teel
~SETUP-BGTNEJ2.TP2~ #0 #4 // Merchant League Store
~SETUP-DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // DSotSC for BGT-Weidu v1.85 Mod
~SETUP-NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // NTotSC for BGT-Weidu v1.45 Mod
~SETUP-BONEHILL.TP2~ #0 #0 // Bone Hill Mod v2.05 (Requires BGT-Weidu or Tutu)
~1STMOD/SETUP-1STMOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // 1St Mod. Correct IDS, Scriptable Spells, and similar beneficious stuff.
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #0 // Big Picture AI/Enhancement Mod, version 177 weidu (beta)
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Suldanessallar
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Spellhold
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wand of Orcus Add-In
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Small Teeth Pass, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Kangaxx Encounter, by Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #8 // Improved Random Encounters, by Gebhard Blucher and Kensai Ryu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #9 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #10 // Red Badge, Poison-Based Encounter, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #11 // Kuroisan the Acid Kensai, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #12 // The Ritual, by Westley Weimer
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #13 // Improved Xvart Village, for BGT-weidu
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #0 #15 // Ascension for BP
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Revised High Level Abilities
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #20 // "SwashImoen" -> "SwashImoen", full revision (suggested)
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Shapeshifting fix -> Heal on shifting back to human (Default)
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Universal lesser mage robes
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #50 // Sword Angel - New Fighter Kit
~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #73 // Revised Armors & Shields. -> Update the descriptions.
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Creature XP Reduction -> Reduce to 75%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #6 // Locks, Traps and Spells XP Reduction -> Reduce to 25%
~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #10 // Quest XP Reduction -> Reduce to 50%

You're fine. Those "typo" errors are normal due to the latest versions of WeiDU.

[erebusant]

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You're fine. Those "typo" errors are normal due to the latest versions of WeiDU.
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Thanks for the rapid answer!!
Should I restart the Setup-xpmod.exe file (from DEFJAM) to complete the installation of the mod? (I did choose the Quit option after seing so many errors) or uninstall it first then reinstall again (how do I uninstall a mod?)

-Younes
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Just run the setup.exe again. For the options you have already installed select (N) for no changes and it will skip it and go on to the next option.

[pro5]

Could someone tell me if I need to download and install all of these files (I'm downloading from The Black Wyrm's Lair)
- Big Picture (BP) Weidu v1.7.6
- Big Picture + Tortured Souls v6.04.02
- Big Picture + Baldur's Gate Trilogy (BP+BGT) v3.1.1
- Big Picture + Check the Bodies v1.7
- The Big Picture + Baldur's Gate Trilogy + Check the Bodies (BP+BGT+CtB) v2.0
- Big Picture + Baldur's Gate Trilogy + Dark Side of the Sword Coast Compressed (BP+BGT+DSotSC) v1.6
- Baldur's Gate Trilogy + Northern Tales of the Sword Coast (BGT+NTotSC) v1.4.2
- Check the Bodies Wiedu v1.60
- Northern Tales of the Sword Coast (NTotSC) v2.01
- The Darkest Day Weidu v1.1.0
- Tortured Souls Weidu v6.0.5??
Are some unnecessary? I don't plan on playing NeJ, so I didn't list it. Thanks in advance!

Links to latest versions of mods you need:

Big Picture weidu v177: http://america.iegmc...ture/BPv177.rar
TS-BP v6.04.02: http://america.iegmc...-BPv6.04.02.rar
BGT weidu v1.01 and BGT-recommended mods: http://america.iegmc.net/bgt-weidu/
CtB v1.8: http://america.iegmc...idu/CtBv1.8.rar
DSotSC v1.85: http://america.iegmc...Weidu185WM6.rar
NTotSC v1.45: http://america.iegmc...Weidu145WM6.rar
TDD 1.11: http://america.iegmc...du/TDDv1.11.rar

You will also need BP-BGT Worldmap v6.3: http://america.iegmc...rldmap v6.3.rar

As you can see, they all can be found at: http://america.iegmc.net/
If there's a new version of something released, it's likely to appear there very fast.

Other recommended mod download sites:
G3 mods: http://www.gibberlin...loads/index.php
PocketPlane mods: http://www.pocketplane.net/mambo/ (Completed Mods on the left)

You can use BWL http://dragonshoard....r.net/download/
to get last versions of BWL mods, but other mods are often outdated there (they still have BP 176 only)

Edited by pro5, 07 August 2006 - 07:10 AM.