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[Tyrion]

Playing one game for second time is good but even better is playing heavy modified game for first time So maybe better sit one day copy all readmes to one place read them all looking for compatibility notes or install everything exactly as stated there. Check every version if correct etc... I did just like that and started from installing bp + mega mods + other smaller shit. Game broke few times , learning of console was a must But anyway it was great and all these mods gave game a big kick and lot of fun

[juve]

same opinion here:
learn some basic stuff and you will see that it is not that complicated:
- learn how to use your commandline (or console)
- learn how to locate/manage/copy your files (understanding your filesystem-structure)
- learn how to edit some configuration-files (text/batch/tp2-files)
- learn what a batchfile ist

the only other option would be:
Don't use any mods at all:
Install BG1 + BG2 + Addons + patches.
Install and play EasyTutu first and
continue with BG2ToB
And maybe if you are really crazy you can install Baldurdash-Weidu before you play BG2ToB

this is how the world turns:
To drive a car you have to know when and how to use which lever and maybe you have to know where to fill some essential fluids
To use Boards like this you usually learn how to ues BBCode and have to know what an URL is if you want to add images
To use many BG-Mods you have to know some basic stuff about your Windows and the basic structure of the Mods

[SimDing0]

To use many BG-Mods you have to know some basic stuff about your Windows and the basic structure of the Mods

The vast majority of BG2 mods do not require knowledge beyond executing programs and pressing buttons on the keyboard. Requiring people to learn to edit TP2 files themselves is, in fact, a joke, and I wouldn't install any mod which asked me to.

(On the other hand, I have been known to ask experienced players to do some find/replace editing to track down bugs, so. I just think it's worth providing a user-friendly install process.)

[Grunker]

More than you would think, actually... I went through a number of threads, but i just ended up getting more confused as i kept reading.

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2) NEJ2v42 + NEJ2v602 patch, and NEJ2 biffer if using BP-weidu (but see *note)
3) SoS v1.10/TDD v1.10/CtB v1.7 - in any order (but note: NEJ2 and CtB are not compatible atm: choose one or the other)
4) TS-BP v6.04.01
5) BGT-WeiDU v1.00, and NeJ2-BGT compat patch if using both NEJ2 and BGT
...

Wah? Biffer? And what do you mean, if using BP-weidu? Wasn't i supposed to download weidu versions for everything here?

The second link had a logfile attached... That i couldn't make sense of. I mean... I'm a casual gamer, and i don't know the first thing about code, me editing stuff is limited to PhotoShop only (everything else just makes me nervous).

All one needs to do is take one of the smaller batch files, save it to a working location, then right click on it and "edit" to open it, then delete everything that is in it and copy and paste the appropriate code from the attached word doc into it, and then "save as" whatever you want to call it.

As you may have guessed, that didn't help me much either. I mean, do i have to manually replace a file here? What stuff falls under the 'one of the smaller batch files' category?

The third i actually came across several times thus far. Unfortunately, even though it (apparently) makes everything that needs to be done quite clear, i have no clue as to what .TP2 files are, what they're supposed to do or how i'm going to manage all of that without breaking the installation.

That, and it's filled with all kinds of stuff about editing setup files and removing and replacing lines and such. And 'biffing' again.

Other links you gave include more of the same: Stuff that all makes everything sound like it's basic knowledge (and, knowing me, it probably is), and then some stuff on TDD, that apparently fills up all the Kit slots. So in case a Mod i want to install happens to have a Kit, i get an installation error on somesuch?

Basically, the only thing i DID manage to figure out was that all the Mods i wanted to install post-Tutu are compatible with BP-weidu. Yay me.

Let me say this again: I am an installation noob. The type of person for whom 'Installing something' means they sit behind a screen holding a CD/DVD/whatever until the computer asks for it. And if there's an error, the extent of their abilities is 'looking for a patch somewhere'.

What i want is to know if the order i'm trying to install everything in won't cause any problems, without having to end up doing something i'm not used to just to get it to work.

Appreciate the stickies and everything, but i guess i'm just more noobish than most out there.

I believe that you should try installing each and every mod that you want. Why? Simple. When I first came here, I was a n00bish as you. I didn't know squad about modding or anything, but I really, really wanted to play all those great mods. Back then, I didn't even know how to unzip something! How did I learn? I read the topics, asked my questions, and tried my best. I had to do 6 re-installs just to get TuTu to work back then, but in the end, it worked.

If I were you, I'd try to install everything in the order that seems the most sensible for you at the end. It might fuck everything up, but then, at least, you will have learned what not to do

Edited by Grunker, 02 June 2006 - 09:45 AM.

[Ascension64]

Hmmm, OK. I'll do the homework, even though I'm in exams.

This looks OK. The order is:

• Baldur's Gate (full install)
  
• BG: Tales of the Sword Coast (full install)
  
• Baldur's Gate II (full instal)
  
• BG2: Throne of Bhaal (full install)
  
• Official Patch Galore
  
• EasyTutu (latest)
  
• Make sure you install all those below here on the EasyTutu install
  
• Tutufix v.17 you'll have to check with Macready to see if this works on EasyTutu. I don't think it does. Check over at Pocket Plane Group.
  
• BG1NPC v11 (requires Tutu)
  
• BG1: Unfinished Business (Tutu version planned, but not yet released) Yes, unreleased, so I guess you can't install this
  
• BG2: Unfinished Business v2 No, don't use this. You can't even play BG2 in EasyTutu
  
• EasyTutu Degreenifier v4
  
• EasyTutu Spawn Randomiser v2

Yes, you can then do this in your BG2 directory (still, make a good backup of your entire BG2 just in case your head does explode with errors!). Make sure you still haven't touched your BG1. Install in the following order (unless bold stuff tells you not to):

• BaldurDash v1.5 (WeiDu)
  
• BaldurDash English-Language Game Text Update v1.2 (not sure if i need this: placed first to avoid problems) Don't use this. The Baldurdash-WeiDU does everything this one does but better
  
• BaldurDash Fixpack v1.12 (SoS compatible) Don't use this. The Baldurdash-WeiDU does everything this one does but better
  
• Shadows over Soubar v1.10 (WeiDu)
  
• The Darkest Day v1.10 (WeiDu)
  
• Baldur's Gate Trilogy v.1.00 (WeiDu)
  
• Dark Side of the Sword Coast v1.81 (Weidu)
  
• North Side of the Sword Coast v1.42 (WeiDu)
  
• Revised BP-BGT Worldmap v5 Required for BGT-WeiDU compatibility with The Darkest Day and Shadows Over Soubar

There is always the possibility that the computer could format your hard drive, but assured that none of the modders programmed that in! *jk*
All I can say is good luck.

*tried to use the de-n00bifier gun*

[Azazello]

The vast majority of BG2 mods do not require knowledge beyond executing programs and pressing buttons on the keyboard. Requiring people to learn to edit TP2 files themselves is, in fact, a joke, and I wouldn't install any mod which asked me to.

Sim, 'you da man', as always. Gotta say though that I don't know of any mod that requires you to edit TP2 to play. That's only needed in case there's a problem in the file. I using (at least) one mod with the D0-stamp-of-approval that needs an edited TP2. (This is not the first time, nor will it be the last.)

Also gotta say that if you use a computer and don't know how to use a text editor or search for files, you probably shouldn't be trying to play BGT +/- BP +/- mega-mod installation.

[Kaeloree]

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