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#1 Anomaly

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 05:26 PM

Hi Ascension64,

At Candlekeep, you can meet, but not recruit, Imoen ; this Imoen (IMOEN.CRE) is a mage (!) with weird stats (12/10/9/12/12/10).

This is an invisible glitch unless you install TOB-style NPCs from Tutu-Tweaks. Its description is

ToB-Style NPCs
This component will alter all joinable NPCs to join in the same fashion as Throne of Bhaal, where NPCs immediately level-up upon joining, with a caveat: all creature files are moved down to their lowest experience version, so if you pick up an NPC early enough they will not level upon joining. However, later in the game they will, allowing you to select weapon proficiencies, thieving points, and other goodies from the level-up process.


But for Imoen, this component seems to use IMOEN.CRE as the level one character, not IMOEN1.CRE as it should be ; then when you meet Imoen after Gorion's death and you are level 2, Imoen is a mage.

I know you don't maintain Tutu-Tweaks, but maybe Candlekeep Imoen should be really a thief with her real stats ?
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#2 Ascension64

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 09:16 PM

Hi Ascension64,

At Candlekeep, you can meet, but not recruit, Imoen ; this Imoen (IMOEN.CRE) is a mage (!) with weird stats (12/10/9/12/12/10).

This is an invisible glitch unless you install TOB-style NPCs from Tutu-Tweaks. Its description is

ToB-Style NPCs
This component will alter all joinable NPCs to join in the same fashion as Throne of Bhaal, where NPCs immediately level-up upon joining, with a caveat: all creature files are moved down to their lowest experience version, so if you pick up an NPC early enough they will not level upon joining. However, later in the game they will, allowing you to select weapon proficiencies, thieving points, and other goodies from the level-up process.


But for Imoen, this component seems to use IMOEN.CRE as the level one character, not IMOEN1.CRE as it should be ; then when you meet Imoen after Gorion's death and you are level 2, Imoen is a mage.

I know you don't maintain Tutu-Tweaks, but maybe Candlekeep Imoen should be really a thief with her real stats ?

That's actually a bad move from TuTu Tweaks, because IMOEN.CRE has incorrect script assignments for it to be the joinable NPC version.

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#3 Luke

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 12:25 AM

I have that option installed too. (If you wanna check my other mods, I've posted my log some time ago in that hooded mages problem topic) And with me Imoen was just a thief like always.

#4 Anomaly

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 03:57 AM

I have that option installed too. (If you wanna check my other mods, I've posted my log some time ago in that hooded mages problem topic) And with me Imoen was just a thief like always.

It happens when you are level 2 when meeting Imoen after Gorion's death.
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#5 Luke

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 05:53 AM

Jea? Strange. Then I said nothing :) .

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 06:28 AM

I know you don't maintain Tutu-Tweaks, but maybe Candlekeep Imoen should be really a thief with her real stats ?

In the future, reporting this to the maintainers may be a more useful option. :P I'll fix this for the next version.

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#7 Anomaly

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 06:44 AM

In the future, reporting this to the maintainers may be a more useful option. :P I'll fix this for the next version.

I was planning to post this at Gibberlings 3 as well, but wanted to know Ascension64's point of view first. Well, I guess there is no need to post there now. :cheers:
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Posted 20 March 2006 - 09:40 AM

Just a random question: how can you legally be level 2 after the Prologue :P ?

#9 Anomaly

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 10:18 AM

Just a random question: how can you legally be level 2 after the Prologue :P ?

Play a thief (or maybe a mage) without DEF JAM installed :whistling:
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#10 horred the plague

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 10:23 AM

Play a thief (or maybe a mage) without DEF JAM installed :whistling:


Or take out a few of those pesky guards that come after you for chest-robbing... :whistling:

Give up all of MY hard-stolen coins? Sure, pal.... :devil:

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 10:33 AM

I copied the bonusxp.2da or something like that from my TuTu install. I didn't like the great rewards and I don't want those fixed 10% ones. That won't interfere with anything will it? I mean replacing that xpbonus file.

#12 Ascension64

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 02:34 PM

I copied the bonusxp.2da or something like that from my TuTu install. I didn't like the great rewards and I don't want those fixed 10% ones. That won't interfere with anything will it? I mean replacing that xpbonus file.

Shouldn't.

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