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#1 DalreïDal

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 08:29 AM

:devil: Kind of an ambitious author's note if not backep up by the first chapter...!!!
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 08:31 AM

Don't worry. I think it'll come. ;)

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#3 Darnoc

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 08:31 AM

That is only, because Shadowhawke told me to write an introduction, then she will add her introduction (disclaimer; it's rated R, you know). The whole thing I have on my computer, ready to post, once she put her disclaimer there. Sorry for the delay, but hey, we all live in different timezones, you know.

And I think I can write such an ambitious introduction, if my novel has over 300 pages on my computer. Also it would be a prologue, not a first chapter ;)

Edited by Darnoc, 16 January 2006 - 08:35 AM.

"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

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#4 Neferit

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 11:06 AM

That is only, because Shadowhawke told me to write an introduction, then she will add her introduction (disclaimer; it's rated R, you know). The whole thing I have on my computer, ready to post, once she put her disclaimer there. Sorry for the delay, but hey, we all live in different timezones, you know.

And I think I can write such an ambitious introduction, if my novel has over 300 pages on my computer. Also it would be a prologue, not a first chapter ;)



Wow! :blink: :woot: Then good luck to you :P
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#5 Darnoc

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 12:18 PM

Wow! Then good luck to you


I know, it was strange... Can you imagine that I began writing this thing in October? It's my personal record, I mean, over 300 pages in about 3 months - I've got to have a writing addiction. During my two-weeks vacation between Christman-NewYear I only wrote (almost). I lost two kilograms, which is bad, since I'm underweight anyway (only 60 kg with 1.70 m height, heh). I am so totally addicted to writing. And do you know, what is even worse? I am not finished yet, this was only the SoA-Part *rolleyes*


*Shadowhawke, please post your disclaimer, please!*

Edited by Darnoc, 16 January 2006 - 12:21 PM.

"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

--- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos

Children of Bhaal - my BG2 fanfic-novel (Rated R)

#6 Darnoc

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 01:16 PM

Oh yes, something I wish to add for any further comments:

I am not a native speaker of the English language. My native language is German. Although I admit that my English is pretty good for a not-native speaker (probably because my father is American and I learned English rather early during my life^^), my primary language is still German. So, if you stumble on anything weird, it just might be something "Germanish", if you get my meaning ;) For example, metaphors. That's something I really got problems with. I mean, in German we have different metaphors (logically). Personally I do not really like them and I do not like comparissions. In my opinion, things are what they are and things should have a clear definition (and shouldn't require somekind of weird picture or something to explain them) - which is of course a typical German thought, our vocabulary is rather defined and logically built. Now we're getting into language philosophy... Wittgenstein, anyone ring a bell?
"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

--- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos

Children of Bhaal - my BG2 fanfic-novel (Rated R)

#7 Celestine

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 12:11 AM

Wow, 300 pages in 3 months? That's quite a feat. No wonder I was looking for the chapters, so they haven't been posted yet. hehe.

#8 Shadowhawke

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 01:55 AM

Ah, apologies for taking so long with my introduction. -_- . As Darnoc said... different timezones. I think I was asleep when Darnoc added his introduction. :P .

Oh, btw. 300 pages in three months?

:Bow:

I think all writers can agree with me that that's one hell of a feat. :)

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Bound stronger by the love

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To where the death has lain,
Silent through the sorrow,
Where innocents lie slain


#9 Darnoc

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 12:55 PM

Yes, well, it's certainly something unique... Never happened to me before, it's the most I ever wrote in my life. Anyway, I've put it at all on (needed two hours^^) and everything that I've wrote is now there. Once I'll be able to continue (that is, once Lord Mirrabbo has finished the ToB-mod and I've played it through at least once), I'll of course update everything. But it seems that Lord Mirrabbo still needs quite some time, so it will be some time (a long time?) until something new appears.

And don't forget, I'm simply addicted to writing, up to the point that I can forget to eat (and some other things also) :)

Edited by Darnoc, 17 January 2006 - 12:56 PM.

"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

--- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos

Children of Bhaal - my BG2 fanfic-novel (Rated R)

#10 Cantrip

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 12:19 PM

Well, I've just finished reading it, and I like it! :Bow:
Tons of DUNE references, which is cool, but I somehow wanted it to be more elaborate (in ToB, maybe?).
Who's the other guy, by the way?
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#11 Darnoc

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 01:11 PM

Well, I've just finished reading it, and I like it! Bow.gif
Tons of DUNE references, which is cool, but I somehow wanted it to be more elaborate (in ToB, maybe?).
Who's the other guy, by the way?


So you noticed  ;)

I will elaborate in the later parts - especially in the interludes and the epilogue. Be prepared for some nasty surprises, though. It's not going to be a happy ending, this I can promise.

Why Dune? First, because in Dune certain philosophies I also include are adressed. And if there is something like the multiverse with infinite universes in it, the universe in which "Dune" takes place of course also exists. "Dune" is of course an alternate Earth-Universe, but still, the number of universes is infinite, so it is possible that there could be a connection between the primal plane of Toril and the one of Dune, right?

Silkar Daukon, you mean? Well, he's one of the main characters in my original Fantasy novel "Melir - Part 1: Armament" (although not published - yet; finding a publisher in German is difficult, so I'm translating the whole thing into English). Actually, he's the "villain", but he isn't really the villain, it's difficult to explain. In my world, good and evil are as relative as on Earth, and from a certain point of view he could be considered a good guy, who simply does, what is necessary, although it's brutal, while the "good guys" are idiots, who hinder this necessity. And no one is completely good or evil, everyone has dirty secrets and does things, which could be considered evil. For example, the main characters are terrorists of a certain ethnic-religious group fighting for independence against an imperialistic dictatorship. But it's not clear, who is really good or evil. Even the so called "free and democratic" nations on my world are selfish and do lots of dirty business (for example supporting dictatorships in the poorer parts of my world, selling weapons to different parties in civil wars etc.). The terrorists are all religious fanatics, who believe they act in "the name of Sratua" (their name for "god") and kill innocent people with bombs or in raids. But the Empire they're fighting is not better, using systematic genocide to get the better of those rebellious people.

Edited by Darnoc, 22 January 2006 - 01:15 PM.

"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

--- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos

Children of Bhaal - my BG2 fanfic-novel (Rated R)

#12 Shadowhawke

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 07:12 PM

You certainly do the ambivalence and balance of good and evil very well Darnoc. Just like in real life. So many different perspectives to look at and so many different ways humanity can act to reach its goals...

Through lightning, travel shadow,
Through hell and all above,
Surviving sword and arrow,
Bound stronger by the love

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And in the end a witness,
To where the death has lain,
Silent through the sorrow,
Where innocents lie slain


#13 Darnoc

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 01:57 PM

Update:

OK, aside from correcting many mistakes, there are some new elements inside the story now.

1st: Tamoko plays now a little role - Yoshimo is her brother and the reason why he works with Irenicus and betrays Mainchar is because Mainchar drove Tamoko into madness by killing Sarevok. Now Yoshimo wants to do the same to Mainchar. First he has to witness Imoen being insane (just like Yoshimo's sister) and then he dies (or at least that was the plan Yoshimo devised together with Irenicus).

2nd: Imoen and Mainchar now have fights - like every ordinary couple in life, they do not agree on everything. Which is also my criticism at the mod created by Lord Mirrabbo - during the mod, Imoen and Mainchar never have a real fight or argument over something.

3rd: Both Imoen and Mainchar often talk about, how it's dangerous to be together like that, since their something like siblings (although biologically speaking, they aren't really - that is explained in the story), but nothing ever really happened. Now something does happen - it's perhaps also my revenge upon the paladins, I never really liked them and I think they're a bunch of arrogant, self-righteous bastards. They arrest Imoen and Mainchar and want to execute them by burning them ("inquisition" and "witch-trials" ring a bell?), the charge being of course "committment of incest".

I'm also thinking about letting Imoen lead the first worker's resistance movement or something. It's almost a inevitable development, since during the story she gets quite angry at Mainchar for not heeding the problems of his subjects - so she should actually take matters into her own hands and do something. I need to work on that, though...

Edited by Darnoc, 09 February 2006 - 01:58 PM.

"Homo homini lupus - man is man's wolf"

--- Thomas Hobbbes

"If you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

--- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We don't need to conquer the world. It is enough to create it anew. Today. Through us."

--- Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos

Children of Bhaal - my BG2 fanfic-novel (Rated R)