Does anyone happen to know if the spell 'time-stop' freezes the mind? That is, are people aware that a timestop has taken place during the spell?
Timestop
Started by discharger12, Dec 10 2005 09:48 AM
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Posted 10 December 2005 - 09:48 AM
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Posted 10 December 2005 - 12:40 PM
No.Does anyone happen to know if the spell 'time-stop' freezes the mind? That is, are people aware that a timestop has taken place during the spell?
Because it doesn't actually freeze anyone. Rather, it speeds up the caster. The caster perceives a world full of frozen people, but the caster's perception is the objectively incorrect one.
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Posted 10 December 2005 - 08:26 PM
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Does anyone happen to know if the spell 'time-stop' freezes the mind? That is, are people aware that a timestop has taken place during the spell?
Because it doesn't actually freeze anyone. Rather, it speeds up the caster. The caster perceives a world full of frozen people, but the caster's perception is the objectively incorrect one.
Urg. This isn't what I wanted to hear. (Though I still appreciate the answer.
)WoW is going to need serious revising now.
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Posted 11 December 2005 - 10:46 AM
Neither the casters perception, nor the perception of those under the effect of a time stop can really be called "incorrect". The caster simply 'pauses' time for everyone in the area of effect besides himself (or speeds himself up in time, if you prefer).
Regardless, a creature affected by time stop never percieves the time stop. the caster finishes the spell, then instantaniously, from the perspective of everyone else, the casters actions during the spell take effect.
Regardless, a creature affected by time stop never percieves the time stop. the caster finishes the spell, then instantaniously, from the perspective of everyone else, the casters actions during the spell take effect.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:15 PM
Neither the casters perception, nor the perception of those under the effect of a time stop can really be called "incorrect". The caster simply 'pauses' time for everyone in the area of effect besides himself (or speeds himself up in time, if you prefer).
Regardless, a creature affected by time stop never percieves the time stop. the caster finishes the spell, then instantaniously, from the perspective of everyone else, the casters actions during the spell take effect.
So how does this work for creatures that are immune to timestop (certain monk abilities and others I can't recall). Also, what grants such an immunity?
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:50 PM
Iirc, the spell stops time for a certain area, and leaves the caster immune. Anyone outside the timestop area sees everyone but the caster as being frozen. Anyone immune to time stop is therefore just ignoring the magical effect.
If, on the other hand, it's a case of the caster being sped up...I have no idea how to explain away how someone could have immunity. They would have to be able to automatically detect someone entering the time bubble the caster is in and be able to enter it as well.
If, on the other hand, it's a case of the caster being sped up...I have no idea how to explain away how someone could have immunity. They would have to be able to automatically detect someone entering the time bubble the caster is in and be able to enter it as well.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 03:04 PM
Iirc, the spell stops time for a certain area, and leaves the caster immune. Anyone outside the timestop area sees everyone but the caster as being frozen. Anyone immune to time stop is therefore just ignoring the magical effect.
If, on the other hand, it's a case of the caster being sped up...I have no idea how to explain away how someone could have immunity. They would have to be able to automatically detect someone entering the time bubble the caster is in and be able to enter it as well.
Or, perhaps, is capable of "stepping outside of time" like the caster...though you'd think they'd use it for their own time stops...
"Tyranny is a quiet thing at first, a prim and proper lady pursing her lips and shaking her head disapprovingly, asking, well what were you doing (wearing that dress, walking home at that hour, expressing those inappropriate thoughts) anyway? It's subtle and insidious, disguised as reasonable precautions which become more and more oppressive over time, until our lives are defined by the things we must avoid. She's easy enough to agree with, after all, she's only trying to help -- and yet she's one of the most dangerous influences we face, because if she prevails, it puts the raping, robbing, axe-wielding madmen of the world in complete control. Eventually they'll barely need to wield a thing, all they'll have to do is leer menacingly and we fall all over ourselves trying to placate them." -godlizard
