Loviatar or Shar sound the best options. Thus I need more info on these two I reckon. What do they do? Which one fits best a betrayed man whom therefor became bent on revenge and thus a fallen paladin. A man feeling bitter lonely, one feels love betrayed him. Thus an emotional pained 500 year old fallen paladin now seeking revenge, though not in bloodlust way, but more cold blooded way.
Shar is the Neutral Evil greater power of dark, night, loss, forgetfulness, unrevealed secrets, caverns, dungeons and the Underdark. The loss aspect of her portfolio sounds as though it could suit your character.
Loviatar is the Lawful Evil lesser power of pain, hurt, agony, torment, suffering, and torture. Her followers enjoy inflicting (and receiving) physical pain, which doesn't sound as though it would suit someone who's a cold and calculating killer.
As for Ian's former god, when he was still a paladin, any idea? I don't quite understand why it has to be a Netheril god, to be honest Nightmare. Where this the only worshipped gods back then? Which god would let his order attack a Netheril Bleak Academy?
When you mentioned Amaunator, I assumed you wanted to tie this in with the times of Netheril (since that's when Amaunator was around), and had merely underestimated how long ago that was. During that time period, there were only 10 human gods, and thus must of the current pantheon are either ascended mortals (such as Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul), or gods from other worlds who've decided to expand their "territory" (for instance Ilmater, Mielliki and Loviatar).
I don't believe there any official dates for the arrival or ascension of any of the gods other than those which happened after the Time of Troubles, but I suspect most of them happened more than 500 years ago. In other words, you've got almost all of the current gods as possible options, with the exceptions of recent arrivals such as Cyric, Finder, Kelemvor, etc.
In some way Hoar seems to be rival of St. Cubhert, who is also of retribution. Though St. Cubhert can be moody he is more steadily, if you know what I mean. However, BG2 uses AD&D gods and there Hoar is CN. Though I give in that he does seem rather nice, but Ian is evil and that seems something Hoar doesn't like, just like Clerics of St. Cubhert may not be evil even though rules-wise they normally should be able to do so.
The gods of the Forgotten Realms in 2nd and 3rd edition are mostly the same; I believe the only major difference is the return of Bane. St. Cuthbert, Kord, Hextor, etc are not "3rd edition gods", rather they're gods from another
D&D setting, that of Greyhawk. That setting has been around since the beginning of
D&D, long before the Forgotten Realms setting existed.
Ian feels somewhat numbed and wishes to feel numbed. No emotion and no pain. So in that way Shar is viable. Loviatar is also I believe goddess of emotional pain, but more perhaps inflicting it then suffering it. That is more Ilmater. However, Ilmater is G in AD&D right?
Loviatar is far more concerned with physical rather than emotional pain, though inflicting the latter would doubtlessly still please her. Ilmater is indeed Good (Lawful Good in fact), but he's willing to accept worshippers of any alignment (though clergy must be either any Good alignment or Lawful Neutral), as he wishes to encourage their redemption.
There's also a cult of evil Ilmater worshippers who only revere the suffering aspect of their god's portfolio, and have twisted the church's teachings so that they believe Ilmater wants them to inflict suffering on others.
I thougth that Sune is for love for everyone and didn't mind sharing that much... If not so, does she support people who wish to take revenge out of love even if that makes them go evil. Sune is CG and LE is the exact opposite.
Sune refuses to accept any evil worshippers.
I don't even know actually what Tyr and Torm stand for though I know there names and Azuth is unkown to me.
Tyr: LG greater power of justice. His allies are Ilmater, Torm and Lathander. His enemies are Mask, Talos, Cyric and Talona, and also Bane and Bhaal when they were alive.
Torm: LG lesser power of duty, loyalty, obedience, and paladins. His superior is Tyr, and he's allied with Helm, Ilmater, the Red Knight, and Lathander. His enemies are Cyric and Mask, and also Bane and Bhaal when they were alive.
Azuth: LN lesser power of wizards, mages, and spellcasters in general. He accepts worshippers of any alignment, though his clergy must be either LG, LN, N, CN, or LE. His superior is Mystra, and he's allied with Savras, Velsharoon, Oghma, and Deneir. His only enemy is Cyric.
Gargaros is CE (besides CN? little unclear out of post) according to Bluenose, thus NE isn't far off of that. Still hold him in position 1.
Garagos is CN, the very similar sounding Gargauth is LE.
Can anyone tell me if Hoar still supports evil characters? And where does Loviatar stand with Ian's character?
Hoar accepts worshippers of any non-Chaotic alignment and clergy of any Lawful alignment, so a LE blackguard would be fine with him.
Gargaros is okay. Will he not support NE at all, even though she fits a lot into his ideas? She is no cleric so she does not have to be in one step of his alignment like clerics do.
Garagos is happier with Evil characters than he is with do-gooders; he accepts worshippers of any non-Good alignment.
Ian still has Shar, Hoar and Loviatar then. Loviatar certainly because of suffering, torment, pain, hurt, evil, law and retribution. She sounds better as Hoar as she is also of hurt, torment. Thus either Shar or Loviatar for Ian.
Loviator doesn't have retribution as part of her portfolio, that's Hoar's alone... at least amongst the human pantheon of gods.
It should be noted that Hoar is currently being manipulated by Shar, who's trying to corrupt him into becoming a Lawful Evil god of vengeance and bitterness (on a side note, she's attempting exactly the same thing with the elven deity Shevarash). At the same time, Tyr is trying to help him attain redemption, encouraging him to become a Lawful Good deity of irony and poetic justice. At the moment, it looks as though Shar is winning...
Edited by NiGHTMARE, 27 April 2005 - 07:58 AM.
