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[AndrewL]

Probably a silly question, but if I've installed Tougher Sendai from Oversight, do I still need to install the stand-alone Detectable Spells from Cirerrek's website?

Thanks

[the bigg]

Probably a silly question, but if I've installed Tougher Sendai from Oversight, do I still need to install the stand-alone Detectable Spells from Cirerrek's website?

Thanks

No, you don't.

The reason why we aren't including a build is:
1) Scripts will work anyway (I use it only for PFMW, and if DS isn't installed script will work anyway).
2) core DS build is different from BP one. Instead of choosing Kelsey/Oversight/K&Z vs BP, we let the player decide on his own.

[Littiz]

Thx Camdawg for the offer BTW

[CamDawg]

Well, after talking with Cireerrek, I need to revise it anyway--Horred and Avenger have devised an updated/expanded version beyond the current DS, so I need to get to the two of them to make sure it's the most recent/updated version.

[SimDing0]

If DS is being majorly overhauled, I think I have some notes on what needs improving if possible somewhere.

[Caedwyr]

You know, what'd be really cool is to have DS included as part of some fix pack that everyone installs so it would be standard for everyone's install. That way this whole mess could be avoided.

Edited by Caedwyr, 27 March 2005 - 10:27 AM.

[SimDing0]

Yeh.

[CamDawg]

You know, what'd be really cool is to have DS included as part of some fix pack that everyone installs so it would be standard for everyone's install.  That way this whole mess could be avoided.

Oh, if only such a massive, secret project was in progress and not led by an anal-retentive gibberl--err, ogre!

...wait, what was the topic here again? Sorry TGM, Littiz, the bigg, I'll stop spamming now.

[SConrad]

You know, what'd be really cool is to have DS included as part of some fix pack that everyone installs so it would be standard for everyone's install.  That way this whole mess could be avoided.

Oh, if only such a massive, secret project was in progress and not led by an anal-retentive gibberl--err, ogre!

...wait, what was the topic here again? Sorry TGM, Littiz, the bigg, I'll stop spamming now.

Sneaky, sneaky gibberling.

[the bigg]

...wait, what was the topic here again? Sorry TGM, Littiz, the bigg, I'll stop spamming now.

You said it :glare:

[Nerik]

There appears to be a bug in the Ranger Endurance HLA: Since installing Refinements v2, when I activate this ability (on Minsc) his maximum hit point value increases continuously, so that after a shot while, he has a maximum hps in the 1,000s, while his current hps have increased less (due to regeneration).

Charles

[the bigg]

Finally, something that is not my fault
Now, time to call the other two

[Littiz]

Argh, truly a nasty one
See, TWO team members of this team (I'll hide the names ) have the habit of NOT testing even once the things they do/modify
I've already fixed three things because of this just this morning
Now, where did I leave my spiked mace the last time?

To partially absolve TGM, the engine is not working properly here... I've been forced to modify Endurance a bit, it now adds a 10% HP bonus.
Thanx Nerik
I hope we'll upload a new version soon.

[Nerik]

Here's an idea:

Instead of Endurance granting 1d8+5 bonus hit points with a duration of 1700 (which appears to be the problem - it continuously adds 1d8+5 hit points throughout that duration), have it grant +10 hit points permanently, and subtract 10 hit points with a delay of 1700?
I've given this a quick try out, (using CRTL+T to expire the effect) unfortunately, this won't work for random hit point bonuses (you would add a randon amount, then subtract a random amount, that would probably be different).

The other option is the State: Aid[129] opcode, but that has a built in bless and saving throw bonuses as well

I hope this is of some use.

Charles

[T.G.Maestro]

See, TWO team members of this team (I'll hide the names  ) have the habit of NOT testing even once the things they do/modify

Oh yeh, still one of them often catches the bugs of the others, including even those of the magnificent Littiz .

To partially absolve TGM, the engine is not working properly here... I've been forced to modify Endurance a bit, it now adds a 10% HP bonus.

Hmm.. so you say it is impossible to increase one's HPs by a fixed amount (be it the current value or the maximum) without facing this bug - and I'm not talking about %-s here?
How about LArloch's M. Drain or Vampiric Touch? They both use HP increasing effects with durations applied. The other example would be Aid, but as Nerik pointed out, that one uses a special effect.

[Littiz]

magnificent Littiz

uhm, "magnificent", yeah

Let me clarify the problem (as I got it):
at first we applied just the fixed +5 bonus.
Such bonus has no problem, it wears away after the time expires (so there's no need for a delayed malus, @Nerik ).
Then TGM noticed that we lacked that 1d8 bonus the description spoke about, and added it.
Now, the random bonus gets constantly reapplied with that time setting (weird thing), so we can't use it.

So I say, best of all is the new version that adds 10% HPs

Edited by Littiz, 03 April 2005 - 11:25 PM.

[T.G.Maestro]

I get it, but as I asked, how does LMD and VT work? Are they using a different effect to boost the caster's max HP?

[Rathwellin the Bard]

I get it, but as I asked, how does LMD and VT work? Are they using a different effect to boost the caster's max HP?

I'm pretty sure that they add a fixed amount of HP to the caster. The spell description talks about a random number (direct port from PnP) but I'm pretty sure that the actual BG implementation has used a fixed number in both versions.

Edited by Rathwellin the Bard, 04 April 2005 - 04:54 AM.

[the bigg]

In fact, casting LMT and VT on self will heal you up.

[T.G.Maestro]

In fact, casting LMT and VT on self will heal you up.

Yes, I think Galactygon once addressed this problem in the general modding forums.