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[Archmage Silver]

Most mages just like to create new spells if they're up to it. It's kinda like a lasting legacy.

[Stone Wolf]

Heh, and then people forget to associate their name with the spell they created. Wasn't it Mordenkainen's Magic Missile at some point?

[Ebon]

Heh, and then people forget to associate their name with the spell they created.  Wasn't it Mordenkainen's Magic Missile at some point?

Nah, perhaps the spells were way too common (and needed) to be given names. Besides, any noob mage could create a magic missile.

[Archmage Silver]

There is Mordenkainen's Force Missile though.

[Grey Acumen]

So if I create my "Major Contingency Spell" that allows you to store a single 9th level spell and have it automatically cast under certain conditions, do I get to name it after one of my mages?

[Archmage Silver]

Well...yes. If you work for the Wizards of the Coast that is. No, really, if you wrote a novel featuring the spell, you could name it whatever you like. But getting it to the source books is another matter entirely.

[Dalis'ilhea]

Was me sorry

(just so it's known, I don't drink often (I would say much, but it would be a lie)

Edited by Dalis'ilhea, 07 April 2005 - 08:07 AM.

[oralpain]

As for Nahal, as far as I know he's nothing more than a name.  There are other spells with his name though, such as Nahal's Nonsensical Nullifier.  My guess is he's the most prominent of all wild mages, perhaps even the first wild mage.

Nahal the Incorrigible is an 11th level human wild mage from FR.

[Andyr]

Which sourcebooks is he mentioned in? I'd not heard of him either.

[oralpain]

The 1993 AD&D trading cards, #418.

[Andyr]

Oh, heh, that's probably why I didn't know him/her then.

[oralpain]

Heh, and then people forget to associate their name with the spell they created.  Wasn't it Mordenkainen's Magic Missile at some point?

Magic Missile was originaly "General Matick's Missile". Matick was a General in the Netherese military several thousand years before Mordenkinen was born. Some say he created the spell himself, some say he had it commisioned.

There are several modifications to the magic missle spell. Mordenkainen's Force Missles is one of the more potent examples.

[Azkyroth]

Speaking of mage-made spells, can anyone provide me with a better information source on the creation of new spells?

[WizWom]

Actually, Way back in the early days, Gygax actually Ran Greyhawk as his campaign. Many of the names - Otiluke, Mordenkainen, Bigby - were PCs from that campaign, who actually made up the spells - which were published first in the magazine, before seeing print in supplements or sourcebooks.

Heh, but no one under 40 would know that. And probably no one under 40 from outside the Midwest who'd had a chance to visit TSR in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.

[oralpain]

Speaking of mage-made spells, can anyone provide me with a better information source on the creation of new spells?

The official rules on the creation of spells are very subjective, and entirely up to DM ruling. It's all based off prior precident. I am not sure if 3E codified things a bit more, or not, but I suspect so.

Gygax actually Ran Greyhawk as his campaign. Many of the names - Otiluke, Mordenkainen, Bigby - were PCs from that campaign, who actually made up the spells - which were published first in the magazine, before seeing print in supplements or sourcebooks.

Heh, but no one under 40 would know that. And probably no one under 40 from outside the Midwest who'd had a chance to visit TSR in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.

I was aware of this.

I'm in my early 20s, and I've never been farther west than Niagra Falls...

[Dark-Mage]

Larloch is an FR character; he's an ultra-powerful Lich who lives a short distance north of Baldur's Gate. Though he's thoroughly evil and commands scores of undead followers, he generally seems to keep himself to himself.

He did destroy some mage group who tried to bring forth the lost power of Netheril... the mages did have some minor artifacts and before they could find more and establish some power, Larloch destroyed them. But that's about all, he doesn't bother the Realms too often.

Additionally, I believe he has a horde of minor and major artefacts, suspected to be one of the only survivors from the ancient empire of Netheril (accept the city of shade etc) and I believe that I read somewhere that Mystra allows him to still access some spells or powers from that period of magic.

[Tassadar88]

I recall my fit of laughter, when I first saw the spell "Elvan spiked tentacles of forced intrusion"
That would be an Order of the stick spell, though

[Dark-Mage]

"Elvan spiked tentacles of forced intrusion"

... Sounds like something from a Japanese cartoon

[Tassadar88]

Well, it is the Order of the Stick. Well worth reading the lot of it