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[GreenMother]

What the heck are these? I've only been able to find very basic information on them so far. Apparently they are FR deities but I could be mistaken, here's the only info I've found on them.

Eshabala - Vanity, Charm, Greed, Cunning

Kanchelsis - Blood, Debauch, Vamprism

Mellifluer - Lichdom

[GreenMother]

They are also quite a few more.

[Celestine]

Loviatar, Talona, and Malar serve Bane through Bhaal, although Loviatar and Talona are rivals. Bhaal and Myrkul have an unbreakable symbiotic alliance, as one delivers the dead to the other. Shar is allied with Myrkul. All of these beings are collectively known as "the Dark Gods".

Source from here

There are information the other evil gods in the same page as well.

Edited by Celestine, 16 March 2005 - 06:00 PM.

[GreenMother]

Loviatar, Talona, and Malar serve Bane through Bhaal, although Loviatar and Talona are rivals.  Bhaal and Myrkul have an unbreakable symbiotic alliance, as one delivers the dead to the other.  Shar is allied with Myrkul.  All of these beings are collectively known as "the Dark Gods".

Source from here

There are information the other evil gods in the same page as well.

Ah. So these are not FR deities then, oh well.

Which is strange since I found them on a FR deities page on Sorcerers Palace and several other locations.

Edited by GreenMother, 16 March 2005 - 06:05 PM.

[NiGHTMARE]

Loviatar, Talona, and Malar serve Bane through Bhaal, although Loviatar and Talona are rivals.  Bhaal and Myrkul have an unbreakable symbiotic alliance, as one delivers the dead to the other.  Shar is allied with Myrkul.  All of these beings are collectively known as "the Dark Gods".

Minor corrections: Malar serves Talos rather than Bane, and is one of the Gods of Fury (the others being Talos, Auril and Umberlee). Also, I don't believe Shar is classified as one of the Dark Gods.

These gods are merely human deities, meaning there are other, non-human FR gods which have similar portfolios. The Dark Powers such as Eshabala are indeed genuine FR deities, and are an entirely seperate pantheon not generally worshipped by (demi-)humans, but rather various evil monstrous creatures. I'm not sure which source book(s) they're detailed in, but I'll have a look later.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 17 March 2005 - 05:56 AM.

[Celestine]

Thanks Nightmare. =)

[Garumn]

I suggest you going on www.candlekeep.com , its got many good resources about FR deitys

[NiGHTMARE]

Okay, the Dark Powers are detailed in Monster Mythology. Interestingly, Mellifleur is said to have 'accidentally' been granted deityhood by Bane. To retain his divine status, he must have his avatars "oppose the actions of the dark deity who created him". Sometimes, he will even be aided by certain good deities in his fight against Bane!

Kanchelis, the Eternal Elder Vampire, was also accidentally created, in his case from the blood of the Seldarine (the elven pantheon) as they attempted a certain good intentioned ritual.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 17 March 2005 - 06:16 AM.

[T.G.Maestro]

Kanchelis, the Eternal Elder Vampire, was also accidentally created, in his case from the blood of the Seldarine (the elven pantheon) as they attempted a certain good intentioned ritual.

Hmm, this info could even be used in The Plot Thickens mod for more info on Bodhi and her vampirism... a connection between Bodhi and Kanchelis would be interesting I think.

[NiGHTMARE]

It'd be worth mentioning that Kanchelis doesn't have any priests or even paricularly seek out any worshippers. Rather, he has a small collection of "friends" (mainly powerful vampires) on various planes and Prime Material worlds, with whom he occassionaly visits to trade information, spells and artifacts.

He often travels with a female elven or half-elven companion (being a different person each time), either vampiric or simply charmed. This female will be either a fighter or wizard, and his favourite companion is a half-elven fighter/wizard.

[GreenMother]

How interesting! I am downloading Monster Mythology right now(offRPGnow)(so cheap)

Thank you for the info! But what about Eshabala?

Edited by GreenMother, 17 March 2005 - 10:00 AM.

[NiGHTMARE]

Eshabala is worshipped mainly by werefoxes, and also by some wolfweres. She is the sister of Daragor, god of werewolves, and while the two don't exactly get along, they aren't quite at the stage of being enemies.

Her main enemy is Ferrix, goddess of weretigers. Daragor's main enemy is Ferrix's brother Balador, god of werebears. There is one* other were-creature god, and that's Squerrik, god of wererats.

* though were-creatures often worship gods in other pantheons, and some other gods even include were-creatures in their portfolio (Selune being perhaps the most obvious example).

[Arachnos]

Eshabala is worshipped mainly by werefoxes, and also by some wolfweres.  She is the sister of Daragor, god of werewolves, and while the two don't exactly get along, they aren't quite at the stage of being enemies.

Her main enemy is Ferrix, goddess of weretigers.  Daragor's main enemy is Ferrix's brother Balador, god of werebears.  There is one* other were-creature god, and that's Squerrik, god of wererats.

* though were-creatures often worship gods in other pantheons, and some other gods even include were-creatures in their portfolio (Selune being perhaps the most obvious example).

Is'nt Mellifleur just one of Velsharoon's alias's now. (as Mel was originally a Greyhawk deity, I think). I think it's mentioned in which ever 2ed FR god supplement Vels is in...

[NiGHTMARE]

The Mellifleur/Velsharoon thing can get a bit messy, but the answer I like is that Talos killed Mellifleur's avatar during the Time of Troubles (thuspermanently cutting Mellifleur off from Realmspace), and shortly afterwards granted his portfolio to Velsharoon.

Another suggestion is that Mellifleur is a gestalt mind consisting of several liches, and Velsharoon is merely the latest "addition".

Or it could be the "real" Mellifleur was never interested in the Realms, and Velsharoon uses his name for his own nefarious purposes... though this conflicts with Monster Mythology, which says that the people of Toril believe Mellifleur was created by Bane.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 23 March 2005 - 09:11 AM.