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[Deathsangel]

Okay these are the scripts that may have something to do with the bug, if this is indeed a Kido self bug:

IF
 Global("KidoExists","AR0509",0)
 Global("KidoCreated","GLOBAL",0)
 Dead("Mekrath")
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
 SetGlobal("KidoExists","AR0509",1)
 SetGlobal("KidoCreated","GLOBAL",1)
 CreateCreature("Kido",[568.712],11)
END

IF
 Global("KidoExists","AR0510",0)
 Global("KidoCreated","GLOBAL",0)
 !Dead("Mekrath")
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
 SetGlobal("KidoExists","AR0510",1)
 SetGlobal("KidoCreated","GLOBAL",1)
 CreateCreature("Kido",[757.924],13)
END

Thus if the captor of Haer'Dalis is dead or not, decided where he spawns the first time. Now after you've done an killed Mekrath it could block one has a state that is correct. However, KidoCreated global was already set.
Also he leaves the party rather than he is reacreated... Normally if kicked out he goes to the Slums, so I need to take a good look.

I personally worked with Oversight & Refinements

The other mods I don't know. Brad can we have your WeiDu.log also posted here. That would be nice to reference and see if it might be another mod messing with it. I don't see at the moment how it could be Kido, but I may need to take a deeper look (I am at work now).

[Brad]

would if i could but that is long gone. I thought it was just an abberation, so i didn't even have the common sense to post it when it happened. thats why i asked if he could post his. the only two that I believe i ran (other than fixpack of course) is rogue rebalancing and ruad. RR is for sure, and I think I was still in my Ruad phase when this happened.

[Deathsangel]

would if i could but that is long gone. I thought it was just an abberation, so i didn't even have the common sense to post it when it happened. thats why i asked if he could post his. the only two that I believe i ran (other than fixpack of course) is rogue rebalancing and ruad. RR is for sure, and I think I was still in my Ruad phase when this happened.

Thanks for the Info, guess I need to check it out when I find a bit of time to fiddle around with it.

[Gawith]

I found soultion.

When we are aboute to rescure Haerdalis, there are 2 possible ways. Primo, we can kill Merkanth. In that case, there is a bug I mentioned aboute - when we are back to the theatre Kido is leaving party. Secundo, we may give Merkath a favour and kill imp (or sth like that ;p) for him, in the severs. And in that case there is no bug.

I think that it isn't question of mods and compability that Brad mentioned aboute. When he played second time he propably helped Merkanth... am I right, Brad?

Bad for me, I don't have fresh saves. I saved game after killing Merhant and older saves are TO old to continue game (2,3 days of playing, to much for me). I am going to run another quest, and I'll be looking forwad for solutin... would be greate if you could do sth aboue this

[Deathsangel]

Interresting. I think that I may be able to puzzle out the global that is attached to this quest, so that Haer'Dalis is free & than change the DV check for this global. That hopefully clears the mess... or it may cause both ways to let Kido leave... I need to ask someone.
Thanks for your report Gawith that really helped.

Edited by Deathsangel, 28 September 2007 - 07:33 AM.

[Gawith]

No problem, i'm glad that i could help.

I have one more question - and idea

Kido left party and i took him back. Could this cause any damage to Kido's banters or quests or sth?

Mb i could change Merkanth variable manually (via SK or NI or sth like that) to "alive" or "teleported"? Do u think that this could help? And if yes, do u know how to do this? I know very few aboute modding...

Edited by Gawith, 28 September 2007 - 07:58 AM.

[Deathsangel]

Okay, I just uploaded 6.1 that probally will solve this problem. Still need to restart, so not for you unfortunately, but...
Kido has no problems with being sent away and taken back. After all, he is a bit like that himself. So you need not change anything. It is more a surgical thingy, but it need to be cleared by you. You can simply play along without problems.

[Gawith]

Ok, thanks for clues

[Brad]

good call. that is what I did. Odd that it wasnt caught before. alls well that ends well i guess.

[SaintZenn]

Well, here's a new one:

I'm playing as a good party so I didn't want to bring Kido along, but I right clicked on him to here his little song. Well... His lines were playing in slow mo. I thought he was disturbing with a regular voice but this was really scary!

Also in my last play through, I ascended and Kido didn't have a reaction to it. He also didn't say anything when Cyric popped up.

I love Kido though, he's the coolest little evil dude.

Ah, hell, I think I will take him in my good party, after all you do more good controling Kido's insaness.

[Deathsangel]

Okay that are a few ood things.

Sounds have been known to go odd when on the game itself, see this topic.

Kido has a reaction like every PC to the Deva, giving advise on either to ascend or not. After you make your descision no NPC reacts anymore untill the epilogue, which differs per choice (either ascencion or not). Thus if you get no reaction immediatly after the choice that is correct... after all the game ends, and there is little I can do there in form of a fight or alike.

Kido reacts Cyric, and it has been reported that Cyric sees him, and still contains a small interrupting bug, which causes Cyric to be clicked again. Why you did not see it... I don't know. First report of not seeing after it was added, instead of reporting it being bugged.

I am glad you enjoy him so much.

[SaintZenn]

Actually after the Solar says, "The time has come to make your choice, Bhaalspawn. What is your wish?" you then pick your choice (I will retain the essence of Bhaal that is my right, and become a power of the planes.) it then has the npc say something about your choice, Sarevok for example says "I fear that the fate of our father will be yours, now, as well... but I am still grateful for all you have done for me. I wish you well." (If he switched sides.)

[Deathsangel]

Well, Kido should talk at that time as well, as any Bioware and good programmed NPC should be. It is made, it is quite long and intrigue wise. It has been reported to work... As with Ariena you have some conversation starting problems so it seems.

What other mods have you installed. Can you post a WeiDu.log?

[SaintZenn]

Okay here it is. I uninstalled Ariena for now because she has a lot of talks ending with the invalid links problem. I was going through the dialogs with infinity explorer and I couldn't find anything for Kido for that talk.

Attached Files

•  WeiDU.log   22.58K   438 downloads

Edited by SaintZenn, 12 March 2008 - 09:56 AM.

[Deathsangel]

Unvalid links? That was not reported at all during the testing period... I really wonder what is going on. This requires deep investigation of my install. I will try to find some time, but it will take a while before I report it.

[Jenne]

After a long, long time I've been just lurking on the forum I finally decided to register so I can post my Kido bug

It's nothing serious, though, just confusing. After establishing the Cyric temple in the slums, the map note for it still says "Temple of Ilmater". But more so, the note for the Ilmater temple on the Promenade says "Temple of Cyric".

[Deathsangel]

After a long, long time I've been just lurking on the forum I finally decided to register so I can post my Kido bug

It's nothing serious, though, just confusing. After establishing the Cyric temple in the slums, the map note for it still says "Temple of Ilmater". But more so, the note for the Ilmater temple on the Promenade says "Temple of Cyric".

Well, welcome to the boards Jenne. I am glad to see you here .
Actually the 'glitch' you are posting is not a bug. The area map sign is not replaced, I wouldn't know how but to change the entire map with a new overlay. Perhaps this can be done easier. I made a work around so to speak, by adding a line to Dolf in which you can ask him about this.
Does this not look familiar?

Dolf: Ah, welcome back my puppets. How do you fare? Do you require some aid of the Highest of High?~
1. Yes, I would like to see your services.
2. Actually, I had a question. There is still a sign outside claiming this a temple of Ilmater and people tend to think likewise. Why do you do that?
3. I was wondering something. If I make a donation, can you take care that I do not get all those freaking guards after me?
4. Nothing, actually

Answer to 2.
You really don't have any brain power do you? I do not wish to alarm the Amnish guard or see the Order of the Most Radiant Heart standing on my door step. Now do you have any other business you wish to conduct with me or will you be going?
1. Yes, I would like to see your services.
2. I was wondering something. If I make a donation, can you take care that I do not get all those freaking guards after me?
3. Nothing, actually

[Jenne]

2. Actually, I had a question. There is still a sign outside claiming this a temple of Ilmater and people tend to think likewise. Why do you do that?

Yes, I know. I encountered this only after posting here, so I'm sory for posting bugs-that-are-not-bugs

The area map sign is not replaced, I wouldn't know how but to change the entire map with a new overlay.

Now I'm confused. I thought you meant to change the map note, but by some bug the name wasn't changed on the Ilmater temple in the slums, but on the one on the promenade. I got this:

[Deathsangel]

Well, Jenne. You made me scratch my head. I know I once asked someone else to help me with that in the beginning. So I started looking for all my scripts...
However, I can not find it. I find no changing of tag anywhere. Which version are your running?
Anyone else having this glitch. If so, I really need to turn this mod inside out and get in contact with a few people.

[Jenne]

Which version are your running?

It's the last one, 7.0 I believe. I downloaded it just about a week or so ago.

Well, I remembered another thing, which might have to do something with it. I've changed the map note for the newly created Cyric temple manually (so now it says "Temple of Cyric"). My best guess is that both the Ilmater temples are somehow connected and when one map note changes, the other changes too. I don't know anything about modding, though, this is just a guess of an amateur