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#1 maademperor

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 07:40 AM

I just leveled my fighter kit (Bladesinger I think it was called) to level 11 and noticed that he hasnt gained any proficiency stars since his creation. And then I realized no one else had either. I went ahead and CLUAed to level 19 and noticed he didnt get any stars...niether did Shar-Teel (they are both the same class...) but other folks in my party did (Aierie, Keldorn, ect)....

Is this something that should be happening with that particular kit? If not, what levels should I be gaining profiencies? Another forum user told me it was

"Fighters, Paladins, Rangers, and Barbarians get 4 to start with and an additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 3. (sounds like every 6 levels to me...)

Clerics, Druids, Thieves, Bards, and Monks get 2 to start with and additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 4. (sounds like every 4 levels...)

Mages and Sorcerors get 1 to start with and an additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 6. (sounds like every 6)

Dual classes progress at the rate of the class that they are currently active. Multi-classes get whichever is the best option among all their classes. The order from best to worst is fighter->cleric/thief->mage.

So any fighter multiclass will progress at the fighter's rate. Thief/Clerics, Thief/Mages, and Cleric/Mages will progress at the rate of cleric/thief.
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Is this accurate? Do I need to shadowkeeping profs into my characters?

I'm running BP, with SOA/TOB installed. patched according to the directions and such (version 6 installed)....

#2 horred the plague

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 12:27 PM

Is this accurate?  Do I need to shadowkeeping profs into my characters?

I'm running BP, with SOA/TOB installed.  patched according to the directions and such (version 6 installed)....

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Not at all typical. In fact, it is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing reported, in 1000's of installs.

#3 hlidskialf

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 01:11 PM

Methinks there's a mod conflict here. Did you install one of the packs that alter prof maxes for multi-fighter combos or level 50 packs, etc...?

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 05:42 PM

Methinks there's a mod conflict here. Did you install one of the packs that alter prof maxes for multi-fighter combos or level 50 packs, etc...?

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dont believe so, I have:

NPCs:
Chloe
Kelsey
Valen

Other:
ease of use
under-represented items
item upgrade
dungeon be gone....

If I pull my saves out and blow it away and reinstall from scratch will that likely get me where I should be?

#5 maademperor

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 05:45 PM

^^^^that was me responding by the way....

#6 AnnabelleRose

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 07:08 PM

What components from Ease of Use did you use? There a a couple of ones from it that could be causing your problem.

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#7 maademperor

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 04:35 AM

I want to say I just let it install them all...I believe all went through without errors though...uninstall that perhaps?

I'm a tech of no small measure (no great measure either :P ) so I think in terms of "if theres a problem, eliminate it" and the old faithful "reinstall/reboot".....

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:32 AM

I want to say I just let it install them all...I believe all went through without errors though...uninstall that perhaps? 

I'm a tech of no small measure (no great measure either :P  ) so I think in terms of "if theres a problem, eliminate it" and the old faithful "reinstall/reboot".....

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There's your problem m'laddo. Several components of the EoU mod are not compatible with BP. (Mainly because BP versions already exist in the mod.) Such as the ones related to my initial post. Take another look at the readme for which components are naughty and which are nice.

And just because I have an unnatural fondness for this smilie, next time :rtfm: :shifty: :whistling:

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#9 maademperor

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:43 AM

cool, will do. hopefully removing those it doesnt like will kick it all into gear....

many thank you's guys, I'll be sure to :rtfm: from now on :P

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#10 maademperor

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 02:57 PM

well for those interested, removing the undesirable components didnt work so I'm gonna blow away my whole install and try again...hopefully it will recognize and accept my old saves and work okay...

#11 hlidskialf

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 04:44 PM

well for those interested, removing the undesirable components didnt work so I'm gonna blow away my whole install and try again...hopefully it will recognize and accept my old saves and work okay...

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You'd have to do the reinstall, and progress in levels to see a generation of profs, etc... They aren't going to be retroactively reassigned in a savegame.

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#12 maademperor

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 07:25 AM

well for those interested, removing the undesirable components didnt work so I'm gonna blow away my whole install and try again...hopefully it will recognize and accept my old saves and work okay...

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You'd have to do the reinstall, and progress in levels to see a generation of profs, etc... They aren't going to be retroactively reassigned in a savegame.

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I know, I was CLUAing my experience to level 30 to see if anything showed up following the changes but none did. I've yet to reinstall so I'll be trying it tonight and hopefully avoiding starting over....

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 06:43 PM

I would bet money on having to start over to get this to work. Anytime you reinstall big mods like thsi, it tends to "taint" your game.

As for the "RTFM" emote, it was having to reinstall, and start over that taught me to do that on ALL mods I am installing before I install them. Just so you know you are not alone in dealing with this problem. Been there, done that.

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#14 maademperor

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:02 AM

lol, I'd buy a sweatshirt that says that at this point...

I have a feeling your right too, but I gotta try...regardless I just ordered the Baldur's GAte original saga collection thing (had BG 1 but never finished) so I'll be complicating things even more shortly with BGT+BP :)

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 11:48 AM

lol, I'd buy a sweatshirt that says that at this point...

I have a feeling your right too, but I gotta try...regardless I just ordered the Baldur's GAte original saga collection thing (had BG 1 but never finished) so I'll be complicating things even more shortly with BGT+BP :)

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Very cool and good luck. Be VERY careful with your install. Make sure to follow ALL instructions and compatability lists for that one. With all those components, it has alot of mods it is "allergic" to.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 12:59 PM

I just leveled my fighter kit (Bladesinger I think it was called) to level 11 and noticed that he hasnt gained any proficiency stars since his creation.  And then I realized no one else had either.  I went ahead and CLUAed to level 19 and noticed he didnt get any stars...niether did Shar-Teel (they are both the same class...) but other folks in my party did (Aierie, Keldorn, ect)....

Is this something that should be happening with that particular kit?  If not, what levels should I be gaining profiencies?  Another forum user told me it was

"Fighters, Paladins, Rangers, and Barbarians get 4 to start with and an additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 3.  (sounds like every 6 levels to me...)

Clerics, Druids, Thieves, Bards, and Monks get 2 to start with and additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 4. (sounds like every 4 levels...)

Mages and Sorcerors get 1 to start with and an additional one on every level that's an even multiple of 6. (sounds like every 6)

Dual classes progress at the rate of the class that they are currently active. Multi-classes get whichever is the best option among all their classes. The order from best to worst is fighter->cleric/thief->mage.

So any fighter multiclass will progress at the fighter's rate. Thief/Clerics, Thief/Mages, and Cleric/Mages will progress at the rate of cleric/thief.
"

Is this accurate?   Do I need to shadowkeeping profs into my characters?

I'm running BP, with SOA/TOB installed.  patched according to the directions and such (version 6 installed)....

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I got The same problem with all most of the TDD kit is not working there get no proficiency at all :crying:

and my install is BP-BGT-NEJ-CTB-DSOTSC I have no extra mod installed and only the baldurdash selected through the basic install and I have carefully follow each step in the shadowtech guide

and here are the last step I follow:

run Setup-BP_s_and_h_Patch.exe
run CtB_BGT_BP_Prep.BAT
install CtB_CoreFiles.exe
install CtB_v150_GameFiles.exe
change Setup-CheckTheBodies v150.tp2
run Setup-CheckTheBodies v150.exe (CTB V150 only no patch no map fix no music)
Install DSotSC4BGT-BPv15
Install the Setup-CtB4BGT-BPv2

Any clue? :blink:

Edit:Minsc as no proficiency either

Edited by Talir_Sagar, 10 March 2005 - 11:44 PM.


#17 maademperor

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 06:05 PM

well, a reinstall has fixed my problem. even in my saved games. however, it seems to have fixed things that were there that I didnt know about. when I reinstalled just now and brought up and old save to test it (the profs worked wtiha new character following the full reinstall) it was after doing most of the SOA quests and I was in the shadow lord place (temple ruins..) and 3 guys spawned and attacked me. they had wierd names like "For once I agree..."...we killed them and I CLUAed the XP and bam, got my profs.

However, another thing...Kackicho (the kensai/mage who shows up before leaving Irenicus' dungeon) has no information attached to her...its like she doesnt exist in the game? All modules installed via the auto install guide that is pinned on this board...all went as it should so I guess its going to play the way it *should*

Thanks for the assist....oh, the dummy guy I put together to test the profs has some fierce stats but I might want a different picture for him...Shadowkeeper wont damage my game will it?