Could anyone give my any info on Auril and Umberlee, such as their main centres of worship, main temples, general structure of the clergy and so on. Also, their relations with Malar and Talos. I've understood that Talos is their boss... yet in BGI, you can screw him over for Umberlee.
Basically, as much as possible about Umberlee and especially Auril. TYVM!
Gods of Fury
Started by Ismail, Jan 08 2005 05:17 PM
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Posted 08 January 2005 - 05:17 PM
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 06:02 AM
Umberlee:
http://www.worldofpa...on/Umberlee.htm
http://www.geocities...frgods/umb.html
http://www.geocities...s/Umberlee.html
Auril:
http://www.geocities...wers/Auril.html
http://www.geocities.../txt/god11.html
http://www.worldofpa...on/Umberlee.htm
http://www.geocities...frgods/umb.html
http://www.geocities...s/Umberlee.html
Auril:
http://www.geocities...wers/Auril.html
http://www.geocities.../txt/god11.html
I am the whispers in your head
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 07:28 AM
I'd ignore the top link for Umberlee, as it's not the Forgotten Realms version of the goddess 
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Anyway, since none of those sites answer all your questions, I'll attempt to do so here:
Auril, Malar, Umberlee and Talos are collectively known as the Gods of Fury (just as Loviatar, Talona, Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul are collectively known as the Dark Gods). Auril and Malar are both Lesser Powers, Umberlee is an Intermediate Power, and Talos is a Greater Power... meaning Talos is the leader of the group, and Umberlee the second most powerful.
Auril's enemies are Amauntor (now dead), Moander (now dead), Sune, Chauntea, Shialla and Uthgar.
Malar has two allies besides the other Gods of Fury, these being Bane (dead at the time BG2 takes place, but resurrected shortly afterwards) and Loviatar. His enemies are Chauntea, Deneir, Eldath, Ilmater, Lurue the Unicorn, Nobanion, Silvanus, Sune, Gwaeron Windstrom, Shialla and Uthgar.
Umberlee's enemies are Selune, Valkur the Mighty, Sune and Chauntea.
Talos' has one ally besides the other Gods of Fury, namely Velsharoon. His enemies are Chauntea, Lathander, Mystra, Sune, Deneir, Gond, Helm, Mielliki, Oghma, Silvanus, Tyr, Eldath and Shialla.
Auril's main centre of worship is the House of Auril's Breath (also known as the Cold House) in Glister. It houses a congregation of some 1,600 and is lead by High Hand of Ice Malakhar Rhenta and the Storm Council (14 senior priestesses).
Most of Auril's temples are in the north, but she has shrines almost wherever it's cold. The nearest shrine to Baldur's Gate and Athkatla is located in the Cloudpeaks, near the outskirts of Nashkel.
The lowest ranking priests are known as Postulants. From there it goes on to Votre, Icewind, Storm Sister/Brother (almost all priests of levels 3-8 are this rank), Frosttouch, Lady/Lord Cold, Lady/Lord Deepwinter, Lady/Lord Cold Circle, and finally High hand of Ice.
Umberlee's main centre of worship was originally the House on the Cliff in Cormyr, but it was utterly destroyed durintg the Time of Troubles. Now several temples compete for overall dominance. These include Shipsgrave Tower in Velen (a Tethyrian city located a couple of dozen miles west of Trademeet), run by Wavelord Darjast Surnden and numerous ex-pirate priests; the Cove of the Queen on Mintarn, overseen by Wavemistress Royal Qalbess Frostryl; Stormhaven House on Orlumbor, governed by High Trident Thaerlyd Nornagul; and the Seacaves of the Roaring in Teshburl, run by Deep Wavemaster Ultho Maelatar.
Novice priests are called the Untaken. The priesthood is extremely unorganized, with priests adopting titles such as Flood Tide, Dark Breaker, Puissant Undertow, Wave of Fury, Savage Seawind, and Wavemistress/Wavelord regardless of their true level or rank. Generally speaking, Speciality Priests of Umberlee (Waveservants) are considered more prestiguous than Clerics, and add a "Dread" to the start of their title (e.g. Dread Wave of Fury, Dread Wavelord).
.Anyway, since none of those sites answer all your questions, I'll attempt to do so here:
Auril, Malar, Umberlee and Talos are collectively known as the Gods of Fury (just as Loviatar, Talona, Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul are collectively known as the Dark Gods). Auril and Malar are both Lesser Powers, Umberlee is an Intermediate Power, and Talos is a Greater Power... meaning Talos is the leader of the group, and Umberlee the second most powerful.
Auril's enemies are Amauntor (now dead), Moander (now dead), Sune, Chauntea, Shialla and Uthgar.
Malar has two allies besides the other Gods of Fury, these being Bane (dead at the time BG2 takes place, but resurrected shortly afterwards) and Loviatar. His enemies are Chauntea, Deneir, Eldath, Ilmater, Lurue the Unicorn, Nobanion, Silvanus, Sune, Gwaeron Windstrom, Shialla and Uthgar.
Umberlee's enemies are Selune, Valkur the Mighty, Sune and Chauntea.
Talos' has one ally besides the other Gods of Fury, namely Velsharoon. His enemies are Chauntea, Lathander, Mystra, Sune, Deneir, Gond, Helm, Mielliki, Oghma, Silvanus, Tyr, Eldath and Shialla.
Auril's main centre of worship is the House of Auril's Breath (also known as the Cold House) in Glister. It houses a congregation of some 1,600 and is lead by High Hand of Ice Malakhar Rhenta and the Storm Council (14 senior priestesses).
Most of Auril's temples are in the north, but she has shrines almost wherever it's cold. The nearest shrine to Baldur's Gate and Athkatla is located in the Cloudpeaks, near the outskirts of Nashkel.
The lowest ranking priests are known as Postulants. From there it goes on to Votre, Icewind, Storm Sister/Brother (almost all priests of levels 3-8 are this rank), Frosttouch, Lady/Lord Cold, Lady/Lord Deepwinter, Lady/Lord Cold Circle, and finally High hand of Ice.
Umberlee's main centre of worship was originally the House on the Cliff in Cormyr, but it was utterly destroyed durintg the Time of Troubles. Now several temples compete for overall dominance. These include Shipsgrave Tower in Velen (a Tethyrian city located a couple of dozen miles west of Trademeet), run by Wavelord Darjast Surnden and numerous ex-pirate priests; the Cove of the Queen on Mintarn, overseen by Wavemistress Royal Qalbess Frostryl; Stormhaven House on Orlumbor, governed by High Trident Thaerlyd Nornagul; and the Seacaves of the Roaring in Teshburl, run by Deep Wavemaster Ultho Maelatar.
Novice priests are called the Untaken. The priesthood is extremely unorganized, with priests adopting titles such as Flood Tide, Dark Breaker, Puissant Undertow, Wave of Fury, Savage Seawind, and Wavemistress/Wavelord regardless of their true level or rank. Generally speaking, Speciality Priests of Umberlee (Waveservants) are considered more prestiguous than Clerics, and add a "Dread" to the start of their title (e.g. Dread Wave of Fury, Dread Wavelord).
Edited by NiGHTMARE, 09 January 2005 - 10:01 AM.
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 07:59 AM
google is SO eeeeeeevil 
I am the whispers in your head
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 09:31 AM
@Cyric&Nightmare
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 10:02 AM
As an addendum, LoI will feature a few priests from Shipsgrave Tower in Velen, if not the temple itself 
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 01:31 AM
Bane (dead at the time BG2 takes place, but resurrected shortly afterwards)
When, how, who did this? What books, sources?
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 03:03 AM
It is not mentioned in novels.
It is only briefly detailed in sourcebooks. Essentially, one night he just burst out of Xvim's body and all his followers woke with a green flame around their hand. It only happened very recently, he's not been back that long. Fzoul is his Chosen.
It is only briefly detailed in sourcebooks. Essentially, one night he just burst out of Xvim's body and all his followers woke with a green flame around their hand. It only happened very recently, he's not been back that long. Fzoul is his Chosen.
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 07:41 AM
I believe it happened when/shortly after 3rd Edition was introduced.
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 08:37 AM
Yeh.
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 01:17 AM
That Sucks!!!! 3e Sucks!!!!!
There is a whole novel 'Finder's Bane' about stopping his resurrection.
There is a whole novel 'Finder's Bane' about stopping his resurrection.
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 06:49 AM
That Sucks!!!! 3e Sucks!!!!!
There is a whole novel 'Finder's Bane' about stopping his resurrection.
Bringing back Bane was IMHO the best 3rd Ed thing they've done. Cyric just was'nt getting the evil job done, and Xvim did'nt have the necessary fanbase for true evildom.
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 09:39 PM
I figured I'll reanimate this thread instead of making a new one.
What are Auril's and Umberlee's spheres of access in 2nd ed, and what are the cold-based wizard spells that the Aurilian clergy supposedly gets?
What are Auril's and Umberlee's spheres of access in 2nd ed, and what are the cold-based wizard spells that the Aurilian clergy supposedly gets?
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 10:57 PM
Also, how does ascencion in ranks work? From example, from "Storm sibling" to Frosttouch? And what level is the High Hand of Ice?
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 05:20 AM
Auril
Cleric ranks and titles: the church is very loosely and informally organized. No standard names exist besides "Hand of Auril" and "Icebreath", which are purely honorific ranks, meaning there isn't a standard level of experience or number of years of service at which they are rewarded.
Individual temples make use of their own titles. Auril's main temple, the House of Auril's Breath in Glister, uses Postulant, Votre, Icewind, Storm Sister/Brother (almost all priest between 3rd and 8th level are of this rank), Frosttouch, Lady/Lord Cold, Lady/Lord Deep Winter, Lady/Lord Cold Circle, and High Hand of Ice.
Speciality Priests: Icepriests/Icepriestesses (1/3 of clergy)
Major spheres: All, animal, combat, divination, elemental (no fire-related spells), healing, necromantic, protection, time, weather
Minor spheres: Creation, guardians, wards
Unique spells: Frost Fingers (1st level), Frost Whip (2nd level), Ice Blade (4th level), Heart of Ice (7th level)
Umberlee
Cleric ranks and titles: the church is very loosely and informally organized, not even having a proper rank structure, though novice priests are generally known as "the Untaken". As soon as an individual has been fully ordained as a priest of Umberlee, she/he is entitled to take offerings, lead prayers, and bestow blessings in her name. The priest can adopt any of the following titles: Flood Tide, Dark Breaker, Puissant Undertow, Wave of Fury, Savage Seawind, and Wavemistress or Wavelord. Speciality priests use the same titles, with the addition of the word "Dread" in front of them.
Speciality Priests: Waveservant (majority of clergy)
Major spheres: All, chaos, combat, creation, elemental water, healing, necromantic, summoning, weather
Minor spheres: Animal, charm, elemental (air, earth, fire), guardian, protection, sun
Unique spells: Speak with the Drowned Dead (3rd level), Striking Wave (4th level), Oars to Snakes/Snakes to Oars (4th level), Stormcloak, (4th level), Waterspout (6th level), Maelstrom (7th level)
Cleric ranks and titles: the church is very loosely and informally organized. No standard names exist besides "Hand of Auril" and "Icebreath", which are purely honorific ranks, meaning there isn't a standard level of experience or number of years of service at which they are rewarded.
Individual temples make use of their own titles. Auril's main temple, the House of Auril's Breath in Glister, uses Postulant, Votre, Icewind, Storm Sister/Brother (almost all priest between 3rd and 8th level are of this rank), Frosttouch, Lady/Lord Cold, Lady/Lord Deep Winter, Lady/Lord Cold Circle, and High Hand of Ice.
Speciality Priests: Icepriests/Icepriestesses (1/3 of clergy)
Major spheres: All, animal, combat, divination, elemental (no fire-related spells), healing, necromantic, protection, time, weather
Minor spheres: Creation, guardians, wards
Unique spells: Frost Fingers (1st level), Frost Whip (2nd level), Ice Blade (4th level), Heart of Ice (7th level)
Umberlee
Cleric ranks and titles: the church is very loosely and informally organized, not even having a proper rank structure, though novice priests are generally known as "the Untaken". As soon as an individual has been fully ordained as a priest of Umberlee, she/he is entitled to take offerings, lead prayers, and bestow blessings in her name. The priest can adopt any of the following titles: Flood Tide, Dark Breaker, Puissant Undertow, Wave of Fury, Savage Seawind, and Wavemistress or Wavelord. Speciality priests use the same titles, with the addition of the word "Dread" in front of them.
Speciality Priests: Waveservant (majority of clergy)
Major spheres: All, chaos, combat, creation, elemental water, healing, necromantic, summoning, weather
Minor spheres: Animal, charm, elemental (air, earth, fire), guardian, protection, sun
Unique spells: Speak with the Drowned Dead (3rd level), Striking Wave (4th level), Oars to Snakes/Snakes to Oars (4th level), Stormcloak, (4th level), Waterspout (6th level), Maelstrom (7th level)
Edited by NiGHTMARE, 19 September 2005 - 05:27 AM.
