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[Archmage Silver]

Unfortunately that inventory system works only with pnp, not pc games.

[Delight]

I think a more realistic inventory system would solve these problems. There is a real reason people dont carry around 4 or 5 sets of leather armour - its too heavy! limiting characters to a realistic inventory would force players to choose what to take with them. Gems would become useful for transporting large values without any bulk and characters would loot for gold and jewelry, not plate armour and two handed swords!

The_Swordalizer

Amen to that!
I think that a realistic inventory would force players to buy a carriage .

[Tom]

That would certainly make the game a lot more challenging and realistic, but it gets back to the realism vs game debate... A lot of people wouldnt like it because it is much more fun to run out to some dungeon, kill everything and come back with a horse, 5 sets of full plate mail and 16 or so magic weapons stuffed into your pocket than it is to crawl back with a bag full of about 100g worth of gems.
Personally though, I think your suggestion would be a really cool addition.

[Archmage Silver]

Well, to pick a nit, Deus Ex allowed you to carry a rocket launcher, flamethrower, sniper and bulletproof vest all at the same time, which isn't entirely realistic. But that's off topic. Anyhow, I agree that magical weapons should be rare and monsters should drop common weapons or crude weapons unless otherwise specified. Then there should be the different quality weapons, providing attack & damage bonuses, with different materials and qualities it would be more interesting. And perhaps the possibility for spellcasters to enchant a weapon, though it would take rare components for the spell.

[Tom]

Well, to pick a nit, Deus Ex allowed you to carry a rocket launcher, flamethrower, sniper and bulletproof vest all at the same time, which isn't entirely realistic. But that's off topic. Anyhow, I agree that magical weapons should be rare and monsters should drop common weapons or crude weapons unless otherwise specified. Then there should be the different quality weapons, providing attack & damage bonuses, with different materials and qualities it would be more interesting. And perhaps the possibility for spellcasters to enchant a weapon, though it would take rare components for the spell.

Magical weapons WERE rare in BG1, its just in BG2/ToB when every other monster or guard carried a +4 ubersword of death.

And how is that different from any other FPS game?

[Vita Muerte]

I prefer a random looting system. Item randomness is one of the few things I liked about NWN.

I don't mind acquiring a magical weapon here and there, but I dislike being overpowered... it takes away challenge and makes the game rather boring. If I happen to pick up a lot of juiced up items, I keep one or two and sell the rest.

As far as making the inventory more realistic, I think it defeats the purpose of role-playing. That's what the bags of holding and such are for. After all this is a fantasy setting.

[Delight]

One has to have a Bag of Holding to use it.
I think that it would be cool if there were more non-magical special weapons.
For example mastercrafted, poisoned, serrated, light, heavy etc.

[Archmage Silver]

Mastercrafted and others were used in Temple of Elemental Evil, it was fun to experiment with them and I'm sure it would work in DA too. Any RPG for that matter.

[Feanor]

Well, to pick a nit, Deus Ex allowed you to carry a rocket launcher, flamethrower, sniper and bulletproof vest all at the same time, which isn't entirely realistic. But that's off topic. Anyhow, I agree that magical weapons should be rare and monsters should drop common weapons or crude weapons unless otherwise specified. Then there should be the different quality weapons, providing attack & damage bonuses, with different materials and qualities it would be more interesting. And perhaps the possibility for spellcasters to enchant a weapon, though it would take rare components for the spell.

Magical weapons WERE rare in BG1, its just in BG2/ToB when every other monster or guard carried a +4 ubersword of death.

And how is that different from any other FPS game?

That's because the enemies in BG2 were uberpowerful as well. After all, the hoard of a dragon is bound to include some very powerful items, isn't it ?

[Archmage Silver]

Ah, but let's assume that magical weapons are rare, and then there would be different grades of quality, and weight, ie. mastercrafted light mace & heavy mace. The mastercrafter would have decent dmg output and +1 attack bonus, heavy mace would do greater dmg, without the +1 bonus. Not all would take the same weap now.

[Delight]

Even if magical weapons wouldn't be rare, special weapons could be enchanted too.

Edited by Delight, 09 July 2005 - 03:14 AM.

[Archmage Silver]

But the rare ingredients would restrict mass use of enchant spells.

[oralpain]

I like random determination of equipment/drops, except for special cases. Still, it should be setup to produce plausible results. Anything show on a character should be in it's invnetory as well.

As for invnetory, I think bulk points plus weigth would make it realistic/plausible enough. It's a major pain to carry around 20 pounds of foam peanuts (high bulk), or a bar of gold (high weight).